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MAGA Rep.-elect George Santos allegedly lied about his entire past

#1 Post by Bob Juch » Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:39 pm

CBS New York wrote:NEW YORK - A bombshell report in the New York Times on Monday suggests Republican Congressman-elect George Santos may have lied about large parts of his resume, like where he worked and went to college.

The alleged discrepancies go much further, and there are calls for Santos to step down before he's even in office.

Santos, 34, turned a blue district red to represent Nassau's North Shore and parts of Queens by campaigning as a seasoned financier, but the New York Times investigative story "calls into question key parts of the resumé he sold to voters."

Employers and alma maters Santos listed - including Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, Baruch College, and NYU - have "no record" of him.

Other parts of his resume may be "largely fiction," according to the report. There's no record of his purported nonprofit animal rescue. Even claims he lost employees at the Pulse nightclub shooting are disputed.

The Times' review of public documents and court filings found criminal charges for check fraud in Brazil, eviction cases against him, and raised campaign finance questions.

"This is not about resume padding. This is allegations about the fact he lied on his house ethics forms, allegations about him lying about his personal finances, and where his money came from for his campaign. And what's most troubling is George Santos' refusal to answer any questions about this at all." Robert Zimmerman, a Democrat who lost to Santos in the general election, called out inconsistencies during the campaign.

The Times couldn't find evidence Santos lives at the address where he is registered to vote.

"The totality of it is just so astounding that I don't think the Congress should seat him. Frankly, it's within their purview to decide to seat someone or not. This is not the person that voters chose to elect," said Nassau County Democratic Party Chairman Jay Jacobs.

Some are calling on Santos to resign.

"To lie about where he lives, where he went to college, to lie about his employees dying in a mass shooting, this is somebody disqualified to run for office," said Nassau County Legislator Josh Lafazan, a Democrat and former Congressional candidate.

Joseph Murray, Santos' attorney, called the story a "shotgun blast of attacks." Murray's complete statement read:

George Santos represents the kind of progress that the Left is so threatened by - a gay, Latino, immigrant, and Republican who overwhelmingly won a Biden district by showing everyday voters that there is a better option than the broken promises and failed policies of the Democratic Party. After four years in the public eye and on the verge of being sworn in as a member of the Republican-led 118th Congress, the New York Times launched this shotgun blast of attacks. It is no surprise that Congressman-elect Santos has enemies at the New York Times who are attempting to smear his good name with these defamatory allegations. As Winston Churchill famously stated, 'You have enemies? Good. It means that you've stood up for something sometime in your life.

Joseph Cairo, the leader of the Nassau Republican party, said:

I have read recent news accounts regarding Congressman-elect George Santos. While issues raised in a December 19th New York Times article are serious, I believe that George Santos deserves an opportunity to address the claims detailed in the report, which other news sources have repeated. Every person deserves an opportunity to 'clear' their name in the face of accusations. I am committed to this principle and look forward to the Congressman-Elect's responses to the news reports.

According to political observers, little can be done unless any of the alleged mischaracterizations amount to a crime.

"It's extremely rare throughout this country's history that Congress has expelled one of their own. Unfortunately, lying on your resume is not a problem for running for office," said Basil Smikle, director of the public policy program at Hunter College. "Voters will just have to wait for the next election to be able to have their say."

Santos' attorney said he is discussing the congressman-elect's response.

The Times also found no evidence of the $80 million family investment firm Santos has claimed he manages.
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Re: MAGA Rep.-elect George Santos allegedly lied about his entire past

#2 Post by tlynn78 » Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:26 pm

Bob Juch wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:39 pm
CBS New York wrote:NEW YORK - A bombshell report in the New York Times on Monday suggests Republican Congressman-elect George Santos may have lied about large parts of his resume, like where he worked and went to college.

The alleged discrepancies go much further, and there are calls for Santos to step down before he's even in office.

Santos, 34, turned a blue district red to represent Nassau's North Shore and parts of Queens by campaigning as a seasoned financier, but the New York Times investigative story "calls into question key parts of the resumé he sold to voters."

Employers and alma maters Santos listed - including Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, Baruch College, and NYU - have "no record" of him.

Other parts of his resume may be "largely fiction," according to the report. There's no record of his purported nonprofit animal rescue. Even claims he lost employees at the Pulse nightclub shooting are disputed.

The Times' review of public documents and court filings found criminal charges for check fraud in Brazil, eviction cases against him, and raised campaign finance questions.

"This is not about resume padding. This is allegations about the fact he lied on his house ethics forms, allegations about him lying about his personal finances, and where his money came from for his campaign. And what's most troubling is George Santos' refusal to answer any questions about this at all." Robert Zimmerman, a Democrat who lost to Santos in the general election, called out inconsistencies during the campaign.

The Times couldn't find evidence Santos lives at the address where he is registered to vote.

"The totality of it is just so astounding that I don't think the Congress should seat him. Frankly, it's within their purview to decide to seat someone or not. This is not the person that voters chose to elect," said Nassau County Democratic Party Chairman Jay Jacobs.

Some are calling on Santos to resign.

"To lie about where he lives, where he went to college, to lie about his employees dying in a mass shooting, this is somebody disqualified to run for office," said Nassau County Legislator Josh Lafazan, a Democrat and former Congressional candidate.

Joseph Murray, Santos' attorney, called the story a "shotgun blast of attacks." Murray's complete statement read:

George Santos represents the kind of progress that the Left is so threatened by - a gay, Latino, immigrant, and Republican who overwhelmingly won a Biden district by showing everyday voters that there is a better option than the broken promises and failed policies of the Democratic Party. After four years in the public eye and on the verge of being sworn in as a member of the Republican-led 118th Congress, the New York Times launched this shotgun blast of attacks. It is no surprise that Congressman-elect Santos has enemies at the New York Times who are attempting to smear his good name with these defamatory allegations. As Winston Churchill famously stated, 'You have enemies? Good. It means that you've stood up for something sometime in your life.

Joseph Cairo, the leader of the Nassau Republican party, said:

I have read recent news accounts regarding Congressman-elect George Santos. While issues raised in a December 19th New York Times article are serious, I believe that George Santos deserves an opportunity to address the claims detailed in the report, which other news sources have repeated. Every person deserves an opportunity to 'clear' their name in the face of accusations. I am committed to this principle and look forward to the Congressman-Elect's responses to the news reports.

According to political observers, little can be done unless any of the alleged mischaracterizations amount to a crime.

"It's extremely rare throughout this country's history that Congress has expelled one of their own. Unfortunately, lying on your resume is not a problem for running for office," said Basil Smikle, director of the public policy program at Hunter College. "Voters will just have to wait for the next election to be able to have their say."

Santos' attorney said he is discussing the congressman-elect's response.

The Times also found no evidence of the $80 million family investment firm Santos has claimed he manages.
Was he in the "top of his law school class" with Biden?
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#3 Post by BackInTex » Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:57 pm

So he’s qualified to be a Democrat Senator or President.
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#4 Post by silverscreenselect » Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:01 pm

I blame the Democrats for doing a piss poor job of opposition research. This was actually the second time Santos ran for the same Congressional seat. My guess is that the Democrats figured this seat was safe and didn't want to spend the money that a thorough research of Santos would have cost.

The most serious allegations against Santos involve his financial disclosures or lack thereof. There's enough there to get state and federal prosecutors interested in the details of how he supposedly loaned his own campaign a substantial amount of money ($700,000). Loaning money to your own campaign is a common tactic for wealthy politicians, but if that money came from someplace else, that's a crime, both for Santos and the source of the funds if it violated campaign spending limits.
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#5 Post by Weyoun » Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:53 am

tlynn78 wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:26 pm
Bob Juch wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:39 pm
CBS New York wrote:NEW YORK - A bombshell report in the New York Times on Monday suggests Republican Congressman-elect George Santos may have lied about large parts of his resume, like where he worked and went to college.

The alleged discrepancies go much further, and there are calls for Santos to step down before he's even in office.

Santos, 34, turned a blue district red to represent Nassau's North Shore and parts of Queens by campaigning as a seasoned financier, but the New York Times investigative story "calls into question key parts of the resumé he sold to voters."

Employers and alma maters Santos listed - including Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, Baruch College, and NYU - have "no record" of him.

Other parts of his resume may be "largely fiction," according to the report. There's no record of his purported nonprofit animal rescue. Even claims he lost employees at the Pulse nightclub shooting are disputed.

The Times' review of public documents and court filings found criminal charges for check fraud in Brazil, eviction cases against him, and raised campaign finance questions.

"This is not about resume padding. This is allegations about the fact he lied on his house ethics forms, allegations about him lying about his personal finances, and where his money came from for his campaign. And what's most troubling is George Santos' refusal to answer any questions about this at all." Robert Zimmerman, a Democrat who lost to Santos in the general election, called out inconsistencies during the campaign.

The Times couldn't find evidence Santos lives at the address where he is registered to vote.

"The totality of it is just so astounding that I don't think the Congress should seat him. Frankly, it's within their purview to decide to seat someone or not. This is not the person that voters chose to elect," said Nassau County Democratic Party Chairman Jay Jacobs.

Some are calling on Santos to resign.

"To lie about where he lives, where he went to college, to lie about his employees dying in a mass shooting, this is somebody disqualified to run for office," said Nassau County Legislator Josh Lafazan, a Democrat and former Congressional candidate.

Joseph Murray, Santos' attorney, called the story a "shotgun blast of attacks." Murray's complete statement read:

George Santos represents the kind of progress that the Left is so threatened by - a gay, Latino, immigrant, and Republican who overwhelmingly won a Biden district by showing everyday voters that there is a better option than the broken promises and failed policies of the Democratic Party. After four years in the public eye and on the verge of being sworn in as a member of the Republican-led 118th Congress, the New York Times launched this shotgun blast of attacks. It is no surprise that Congressman-elect Santos has enemies at the New York Times who are attempting to smear his good name with these defamatory allegations. As Winston Churchill famously stated, 'You have enemies? Good. It means that you've stood up for something sometime in your life.

Joseph Cairo, the leader of the Nassau Republican party, said:

I have read recent news accounts regarding Congressman-elect George Santos. While issues raised in a December 19th New York Times article are serious, I believe that George Santos deserves an opportunity to address the claims detailed in the report, which other news sources have repeated. Every person deserves an opportunity to 'clear' their name in the face of accusations. I am committed to this principle and look forward to the Congressman-Elect's responses to the news reports.

According to political observers, little can be done unless any of the alleged mischaracterizations amount to a crime.

"It's extremely rare throughout this country's history that Congress has expelled one of their own. Unfortunately, lying on your resume is not a problem for running for office," said Basil Smikle, director of the public policy program at Hunter College. "Voters will just have to wait for the next election to be able to have their say."

Santos' attorney said he is discussing the congressman-elect's response.

The Times also found no evidence of the $80 million family investment firm Santos has claimed he manages.
Was he in the "top of his law school class" with Biden?
Do you think what this guy did was bad, or because Biden did something 1/10 as concerning (Santos apparently fabricated his entire résumé), it’s okay?

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#6 Post by tlynn78 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:20 am

Weyoun wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:53 am
tlynn78 wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:26 pm
Bob Juch wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:39 pm
Was he in the "top of his law school class" with Biden?
Do you think what this guy did was bad, or because Biden did something 1/10 as concerning (Santos apparently fabricated his entire résumé), it’s okay?
I think they're both asshats. I find it pathetically predictable when our little town criers scurry to share these tidbits and yet manage to pass over the glaring examples on their own side of the fence.
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#7 Post by Bob Juch » Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:15 am

tlynn78 wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:20 am
Weyoun wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:53 am
tlynn78 wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:26 pm


Was he in the "top of his law school class" with Biden?
Do you think what this guy did was bad, or because Biden did something 1/10 as concerning (Santos apparently fabricated his entire résumé), it’s okay?
I think they're both asshats. I find it pathetically predictable when our little town criers scurry to share these tidbits and yet manage to pass over the glaring examples on their own side of the fence.
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#8 Post by tlynn78 » Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:15 am

Bob Juch wrote:
Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:15 am
tlynn78 wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:20 am
Weyoun wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:53 am


Do you think what this guy did was bad, or because Biden did something 1/10 as concerning (Santos apparently fabricated his entire résumé), it’s okay?
I think they're both asshats. I find it pathetically predictable when our little town criers scurry to share these tidbits and yet manage to pass over the glaring examples on their own side of the fence.
You have no sense of magnitude.
:lol: :lol: just precious
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#9 Post by jarnon » Tue Dec 27, 2022 10:42 am

George Santos Also Lied About His Grandparents Fleeing anti-Jewish Persecution During WWII

In my mind, false survivor claims fall just below stolen valor in the ranks of deceit.
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#10 Post by BackInTex » Tue Dec 27, 2022 3:20 pm

jarnon wrote:
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George Santos Also Lied About His Grandparents Fleeing anti-Jewish Persecution During WWII

In my mind, false survivor claims fall just below stolen valor in the ranks of deceit.
I tend to concur. But I consider someone telling stories about taking on fire when they never did as stolen valor, especially when that story supposedly took place in a place where our troops ARE taking on hostile fire. Where are you on that?

What if Santos was always told that story by his parents and he just assumed it to be true? Would that give him a Warren out?
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#11 Post by Beebs52 » Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:28 pm

I think this guy is batshit crazy. So much for opposition research
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#12 Post by Beebs52 » Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:33 pm

Or, he's a dem plant
Well, then

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#13 Post by Bob Juch » Tue Dec 27, 2022 9:08 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
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I think this guy is batshit crazy. So much for opposition research
He's not as crazy as Herschel Walker.
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#14 Post by Bob Juch » Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:26 am

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#15 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:13 am

Santos is being investigated now by the Nassau County District Attorney (a Republican) for possible violations of state election law. The local U.S. attorney's office is also looking into Santos's finances. The main item of interest is a $700,000 loan Santos made to his campaign. Many political candidates self-fund their campaigns, and "loaning" money that doesn't get repaid gives them a tax write-off. But Santos's employment and financial records don't show that he was in a position to make such a loan.
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#16 Post by Weyoun » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:45 am

Beebs52 wrote:
Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:33 pm
Or, he's a dem plant
If he was a plant, why didn’t they drop all this news before the election, so he would lose?

Anyway, if we’re being conspiratorial, a guy with totally manufactured Potemkin résumé who is coming up with $700,000 to donate himself is not suspicious at all, no sir.

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#17 Post by Spock » Fri Dec 30, 2022 11:46 am

Bit>>>"What if Santos was always told that story by his parents and he just assumed it to be true? Would that give him a Warren out?"<<<

Not related to Santos-but we there is a "Pretty" story in our family that I don't buy. I probably mentioned it before.

My mom's sister married a man (since deceased) who had come over after WW2 as a young child with his widowed mother. Note, they were straight-up Germans-not Jews. The mother had come from a very wealthy background in Germany, but came here with nothing. She ended up cleaning houses (many of which belonged to wealthy Jews) in the Twin Cities.

Oddly enough, I think she married well here and ended up her life as a wealthy woman.

The story is that the father/husband was a doctor and he was killed by the Nazis because he wouldn't kill Jews. My mother gets all teary-eyed and such when she tells the story.

Sorry, I don't buy it. Personally, I think he was just a Doctor in the German Army and he just disappeared into the gaping maw of the Eastern Front. I think the story was invented to help her with Jewish clientele and such.

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#18 Post by silverscreenselect » Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:03 pm

Spock wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 11:46 am

The story is that the father/husband was a doctor and he was killed by the Nazis because he wouldn't kill Jews. My mother gets all teary-eyed and such when she tells the story. Sorry, I don't buy it. Personally, I think he was just a Doctor in the German Army and he just disappeared into the gaping maw of the Eastern Front. I think the story was invented to help her with Jewish clientele and such.
I can see that the idea of someone in your extended family actually having a conscience might trouble you, but a number of doctors (including Josef Mengele) in the concentration camps performed "experiments" on the prisoners, supposedly in the name of medical research. A doctor who refused to participate in these experiments wouldn't have fared very well.
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