WWTBAM Bored

Her ex-husband tweeted that she died on Truth Social with no details.

Bob Juch wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:03 pm

Her ex-husband tweeted that she died on Truth Social with no details.

ABC news says that paramedics were called to her Manhattan residence because of cardiac arrest.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/14/nyre ... -dead.html

Ivana Trump, the glamorous Czech-American businesswoman whose high-profile marriage to Donald J. Trump in the 1980s established them as one of New York’s quintessential power couples of that era, died on Thursday at her home in Manhattan. She was 73.

Mr. Trump announced her death in a statement on Truth Social, the conservative social media platform he founded. No other details were provided.

“I am very saddened to inform all of those that loved her, of which there are many, that Ivana Trump has passed away at her home in New York City,” he wrote. “She was a wonderful, beautiful, and amazing woman, who led a great and inspirational life. Her pride and joy were her three children, Donald Jr., Ivanka, and Eric. She was so proud of them, as we were all so proud of her. Rest In Peace, Ivana!”

DISGUSTING!

An email was sent to Trump's supporters with his message.

Screenshots of the email shared online show the message was immediately followed by a giant red button saying ‘donate to save America’.

The email was sent by ‘Save America PAC’.

Screenshots of the message were shared on Twitter by NBC reporter Andrea Mitchell and attorney Ron Filipkowski.

Bob Juch wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 7:57 am

DISGUSTING!

An email was sent to Trump's supporters with his message.

Screenshots of the email shared online show the message was immediately followed by a giant red button saying ‘donate to save America’.

The email was sent by ‘Save America PAC’.

Screenshots of the message were shared on Twitter by NBC reporter Andrea Mitchell and attorney Ron Filipkowski.

Not really. The button is probably a footer automatically placed on every email coming from that account, regarless of the message content. Does it look bad, sure, but the intent was not to use his wife's death as campaign leverage.

BackInTex wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:16 am

Bob Juch wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 7:57 am

DISGUSTING!

An email was sent to Trump's supporters with his message.

Screenshots of the email shared online show the message was immediately followed by a giant red button saying ‘donate to save America’.

The email was sent by ‘Save America PAC’.

Screenshots of the message were shared on Twitter by NBC reporter Andrea Mitchell and attorney Ron Filipkowski.

Not really. The button is probably a footer automatically placed on every email coming from that account, regarless of the message content. Does it look bad, sure, but the intent was not to use his wife's death as campaign leverage.

It's pointless to respond to these people. They keep on proving the point I made in another thread. They don't care if this is a RIP thread. I don't know who they are trying to convince, other than themselves.

They have elected a man as President of the Free World who is obviously senile and being directed in his actions by who knows who. They knew it when they voted for the guy, yet they did it because they have been indoctrinated to HATE Donald Trump. This senile man who they have gotten elected has done more damage to this country by his actions and inactions than any other previous president, including Jimmy Carter, in just 2 years. I could list his numerous failures, but to what end in this warped arena we call the bored?

Included with the senile man is a Vice President who gives no indication of having any depth of intellect, coherence of thought or even a hint of charisma.

And even so, wrapped up in their denial, they find the time to post garbage like this, so absorbed as they are in their hatred for Trump. They can't think back to the first 3 years of the Trump administration, where we had record prosperity, hope for real peace in the Middle East, the possibility for control of our southern border and so much more.

It is about nothing else for them but hatred of Trump. Why? Because that is what was fed into them for the 4 years he was President, starting with the lies that HE STOLE THE PRESIDENCY AND WAS NOT A LEGITIMATE PRESIDENT. (Oh, did we forget about that?) After 4 years of trying to find any legitimate evidence of Hillary's lie they couldn't find ANYTHING, yet they persist. And will stop at nothing to prevent looking into, with the thought of fixing the process, or allow anyone to even talk about, the mounting evidence that something was very fishy about the 2020 election. Even to the fact that they put together a completely partisan, undeniably biased lynch mob, disguised as a Congressional Hearing, to try and build a case for preventing him from running again in 2024, if he so chooses.

Their denial runs very deep, BiT.

flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:57 am

BackInTex wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:16 am

Bob Juch wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 7:57 am

DISGUSTING!

An email was sent to Trump's supporters with his message.

Screenshots of the email shared online show the message was immediately followed by a giant red button saying ‘donate to save America’.

The email was sent by ‘Save America PAC’.

Screenshots of the message were shared on Twitter by NBC reporter Andrea Mitchell and attorney Ron Filipkowski.

Not really. The button is probably a footer automatically placed on every email coming from that account, regarless of the message content. Does it look bad, sure, but the intent was not to use his wife's death as campaign leverage.

It's pointless to respond to these people. They keep on proving the point I made in another thread. They don't care if this is a RIP thread. I don't know who they are trying to convince, other than themselves.

They have elected a man as President of the Free World who is obviously senile and being directed in his actions by who knows who. They knew it when they voted for the guy, yet they did it because they have been indoctrinated to HATE Donald Trump. This senile man who they have gotten elected has done more damage to this country by his actions and inactions than any other previous president, including Jimmy Carter, in just 2 years. I could list his numerous failures, but to what end in this warped arena we call the bored?

Included with the senile man is a Vice President who gives no indication of having any depth of intellect, coherence of thought or even a hint of charisma.

And even so, wrapped up in their denial, they find the time to post garbage like this, so absorbed as they are in their hatred for Trump. They can't think back to the first 3 years of the Trump administration, where we had record prosperity, hope for real peace in the Middle East, the possibility for control of our southern border and so much more.

It is about nothing else for them but hatred of Trump. Why? Because that is what was fed into them for the 4 years he was President, starting with the lies that HE STOLE THE PRESIDENCY AND WAS NOT A LEGITIMATE PRESIDENT. (Oh, did we forget about that?) After 4 years of trying to find any legitimate evidence of Hillary's lie they couldn't find ANYTHING, yet they persist. And will stop at nothing to prevent looking into, with the thought of fixing the process, or allow anyone to even talk about, the mounting evidence that something was very fishy about the 2020 election. Even to the fact that they put together a completely partisan, undeniably biased lynch mob, disguised as a Congressional Hearing, to try and build a case for preventing him from running again in 2024, if he so chooses.

Their denial runs very deep, BiT.

Sad, and 100% accurate.

flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:57 am

BackInTex wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:16 am

Bob Juch wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 7:57 am

DISGUSTING!

An email was sent to Trump's supporters with his message.

Screenshots of the email shared online show the message was immediately followed by a giant red button saying ‘donate to save America’.

The email was sent by ‘Save America PAC’.

Screenshots of the message were shared on Twitter by NBC reporter Andrea Mitchell and attorney Ron Filipkowski.

Not really. The button is probably a footer automatically placed on every email coming from that account, regarless of the message content. Does it look bad, sure, but the intent was not to use his wife's death as campaign leverage.

It's pointless to respond to these people. They keep on proving the point I made in another thread. They don't care if this is a RIP thread. I don't know who they are trying to convince, other than themselves.

They have elected a man as President of the Free World who is obviously senile and being directed in his actions by who knows who. They knew it when they voted for the guy, yet they did it because they have been indoctrinated to HATE Donald Trump. This senile man who they have gotten elected has done more damage to this country by his actions and inactions than any other previous president, including Jimmy Carter, in just 2 years. I could list his numerous failures, but to what end in this warped arena we call the bored?

Included with the senile man is a Vice President who gives no indication of having any depth of intellect, coherence of thought or even a hint of charisma.

And even so, wrapped up in their denial, they find the time to post garbage like this, so absorbed as they are in their hatred for Trump. They can't think back to the first 3 years of the Trump administration, where we had record prosperity, hope for real peace in the Middle East, the possibility for control of our southern border and so much more.

It is about nothing else for them but hatred of Trump. Why? Because that is what was fed into them for the 4 years he was President, starting with the lies that HE STOLE THE PRESIDENCY AND WAS NOT A LEGITIMATE PRESIDENT. (Oh, did we forget about that?) After 4 years of trying to find any legitimate evidence of Hillary's lie they couldn't find ANYTHING, yet they persist. And will stop at nothing to prevent looking into, with the thought of fixing the process, or allow anyone to even talk about, the mounting evidence that something was very fishy about the 2020 election. Even to the fact that they put together a completely partisan, undeniably biased lynch mob, disguised as a Congressional Hearing, to try and build a case for preventing him from running again in 2024, if he so chooses.

Their denial runs very deep, BiT.

I'll concede that the donate button was probably a standard footer for their email list that someone forgot to remove in this case. It's bad optics and distasteful but I can see it as a mistake and not a willful attempt to cash in.

As to the rest of your screed, as I have stated before, Joe Biden was not my first, second, third, or fourth choice as the voice of the Democratic Party. However, when I voted in 2020 I looked at the two alternatives I saw in the 45th President a narcissistic demagogue who posed a threat to the future of our Constitutional government. I did not need any "indoctrination" to see that. His ignorance and contempt for the Constitution were obvious, as was his entirely self-serving instigation of the basest instincts of American society. I was not, and am not, a big fan of Hilary Clinton, but when she lost in 2016 I thought that I had had my favored candidates lose before, but I had never feared for the future of the Republic because of an election loss before. The four years of his administration reinforced every doubt, concern, and fear I had that night in 2016. By the time of the election, he had spent the previous year downplaying the most serious health crisis this country had faced in a century and undermining specialists in the field who were trying to address it. He also had spent the previous year undermining confidence in the electoral process itself in particular mail-in voting (despite the fact that he and his family voted that way).
Yes my vote in 2020 was much more a vote against the 45th President than it was for Joe Biden. I suspect that you would probably say the same thing about voting for him in 2016. But I voted the way I did because I was scared to death what direction the country would take with four more years of his Presidency. And that was before he incited a mob to storm the Capitol, wait through 3 hours of violence before issuing a statement, and even tell them that "he loved them." That is what I saw with my own eyes and is not what any media outlet told me I should believe.
Is the Jan. 6 committee biased? Absolutely. But Republicans have no one to blame but themselves. They had the opportunity to participate and make it more balanced but opted not to. Are they trying to build a case to prevent him from running in 2024? Yes. I hope to God they succeed.

posed a threat to the future of our Constitutional government.

Evidence of your indoctrination.

Make a case for that, sir. On your own. You know and I both know you got that phrase, word for word, from the media propaganda you have been exposed to for 6 years.
What, exactly, did Trump do that posed ANY threat to the 'future of our Constitutional Government' other than oppose and reverse policies favored by the democrats, leftists, the unelected bureaucrats in the swamp and the woke narrative?
Then, if you have anything tangible, apply that same criterion to the current powers that be in the House, Senate and Executive branches and the administration previous to his.

As all of you know, Boonie and I fall to the left of center.

However, sticking to the subject at hand, neither of us has anything but praise for Ivana Trump's ability as a businesswoman, at least as far as running the late Trump Marina Casino in AC.

We didn't even know each other when we had our experiences with the casino. Boonie's late wife Alice and her mom (TLAF's friend Regina) urged Boonie to go with them. TLAF had gone with her seniors on a bus trip and said I HAD to see the place.

Boonie thought it might be late 1990s or 2000. It might have been earlier than that for Boonie because we have a Trump Castle heavy-duty emergency flashlight (a giveaway from the casino before it was The Marina). The thing is absolutely amazing.

The Donald had put Ivana in charge of revitalizing the casino, which was not as splendid as some of the others - either his or others on The Boardwalk.

Mrs. Trump was in the midst of refurbishing the casino. Make the place a pleasant experience for the guests, on lots of levels.

New rugs, new furnishings, new look to the gaming areas. She wanted to give it a classy look (and I mean a really classy look, not gold-toilet-classy). I read something years ago describing her as having an Old World European sensibility. That's the feeling TLAF and her seniors had and there was a richness to the place.

She was engaged in the process - and according to everything I read, she read the numbers daily and could quote everything off the top of her head. In terms of numbers - 4,000 employees, restaurants, gambling, comps, marketing, etc. - she oversaw a small city.

I'm not saying it was completely smooth - IIRC a top exec got in some legal trouble, although my remembering the details may be sketchy. But, overall, she was a fantastic businesswoman.

The Donald pulled her from her position because - as the reports of the time put it - he thought she was "spending too much money." She was putting those improvements in so gamblers would want to come there and make money for The Donald. Jeesh.

Her last day - three floors of employees lined up to salute her as she left the building.

RIP Ivana Trump - terrific businesswoman and world-class athlete.

flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:56 pm

posed a threat to the future of our Constitutional government.

Evidence of your indoctrination.

Make a case for that, sir. On your own. You know and I both know you got that phrase, word for word, from the media propaganda you have been exposed to for 6 years.

Please give me credit for having some independent thought. My wife (who voted for the 45th President twice) will corroborate the fact that I used this phrase on Election night 2016. I didn't need any media to tell me what I could see in front of me.

kroxquo wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 6:59 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:56 pm

posed a threat to the future of our Constitutional government.

Evidence of your indoctrination.

Make a case for that, sir. On your own. You know and I both know you got that phrase, word for word, from the media propaganda you have been exposed to for 6 years.

Please give me credit for having some independent thought. My wife (who voted for the 45th President twice) will corroborate the fact that I used this phrase on Election night 2016. I didn't need any media to tell me what I could see in front of me.

Indoctrinated very early, before he even took office and could do anything at all to threaten the future of our Constitutional government?

On what, exactly, did you base that extremely radical opinion? Hillary's Big Lie?

flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:56 pm

posed a threat to the future of our Constitutional government.

Make a case for that, sir.

1. Undermining confidence in the electoral process thereby devaluing the basic constitutional principle of popular sovreignty

2. Policiticizing the Justice Department so that is employed as his own personal service rather than an independent agency

3. Flouting the Constitutional duty of the Senate to confirm cabinet positions by appointing "acting" secretaries undermining the separation of powers

4. Bypassing the rule of law by issuing pardons to any number of poilitcal cronies (I realize that that is in his purview, but his use of it seems excessive)

5. His repeated attacks on the press turning a noble profession into (his words) "enemies of the people" and thereby denigrating one of the great watchdogs of American government

6. Using the White House as a partisan political stage, probably in violation of Federal law.

7. Refusing to concede an election he lost and submit to an orderly transfer of power that has been a hallmark of our government for more than 230 years.

8. Declaring that he has (his words) "absolute immunity" in legal matters as President and instructing government officials to ignore legally issued subpoenas.

9. The biggie - fomenting and attempting to overthrow the results of a free and fair election

Need I go on?

kroxquo wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 7:29 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:56 pm

posed a threat to the future of our Constitutional government.

Make a case for that, sir.

1. Undermining confidence in the electoral process thereby devaluing the basic constitutional principle of popular sovreignty

2. Policiticizing the Justice Department so that is employed as his own personal service rather than an independent agency

3. Flouting the Constitutional duty of the Senate to confirm cabinet positions by appointing "acting" secretaries undermining the separation of powers

4. Bypassing the rule of law by issuing pardons to any number of poilitcal cronies (I realize that that is in his purview, but his use of it seems excessive)

5. His repeated attacks on the press turning a noble profession into (his words) "enemies of the people" and thereby denigrating one of the great watchdogs of American government

6. Using the White House as a partisan political stage, probably in violation of Federal law.

7. Refusing to concede an election he lost and submit to an orderly transfer of power that has been a hallmark of our government for more than 230 years.

8. Declaring that he has (his words) "absolute immunity" in legal matters as President and instructing government officials to ignore legally issued subpoenas.

9. The biggie - fomenting and attempting to overthrow the results of a free and fair election

Need I go on?

I'm not sure why you're bothering, krox. Just as no election that a Democrat wins could possibly be legitimate, no conclusion that Donny was a danger to the Republic can possibly be the result of independent thought, rather than indoctrination. Just as the very fact that the Democrat won is all the evidence necessary to prove the election was illegitimate, the very fact that you've concluded Donny is a danger to the Republican is conclusive evidence of your indoctrination. It's the Republican equivalent of Hillary Clinton's "deplorables" comment, but rather than being embarrassed by it, they're doubling down.

This is why I'm convinced that compromise with the current incarnation of the Republican Party is impossible, and the only possible course of action is to electorally bulldoze them into political irrelevance. --Bob

Bob78164 wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 7:35 pm

kroxquo wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 7:29 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:56 pm

Make a case for that, sir.

1. Undermining confidence in the electoral process thereby devaluing the basic constitutional principle of popular sovreignty

2. Policiticizing the Justice Department so that is employed as his own personal service rather than an independent agency

3. Flouting the Constitutional duty of the Senate to confirm cabinet positions by appointing "acting" secretaries undermining the separation of powers

4. Bypassing the rule of law by issuing pardons to any number of poilitcal cronies (I realize that that is in his purview, but his use of it seems excessive)

5. His repeated attacks on the press turning a noble profession into (his words) "enemies of the people" and thereby denigrating one of the great watchdogs of American government

6. Using the White House as a partisan political stage, probably in violation of Federal law.

7. Refusing to concede an election he lost and submit to an orderly transfer of power that has been a hallmark of our government for more than 230 years.

8. Declaring that he has (his words) "absolute immunity" in legal matters as President and instructing government officials to ignore legally issued subpoenas.

9. The biggie - fomenting and attempting to overthrow the results of a free and fair election

Need I go on?

I'm not sure why you're bothering, krox. Just as no election that a Democrat wins could possibly be legitimate, no conclusion that Donny was a danger to the Republic can possibly be the result of independent thought, rather than indoctrination. Just as the very fact that the Democrat won is all the evidence necessary to prove the election was illegitimate, the very fact that you've concluded Donny is a danger to the Republican is conclusive evidence of your indoctrination. It's the Republican equivalent of Hillary Clinton's "deplorables" comment, but rather than being embarrassed by it, they're doubling down.

This is why I'm convinced that compromise with the current incarnation of the Republican Party is impossible, and the only possible course of action is to electorally bulldoze them into political irrelevance. --Bob

Sometimes I need to make sure that I'm not really making things worse in my mind then they really are.

kroxquo wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 7:29 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:56 pm

posed a threat to the future of our Constitutional government.

Make a case for that, sir.

1. Undermining confidence in the electoral process thereby devaluing the basic constitutional principle of popular sovreignty

2. Policiticizing the Justice Department so that is employed as his own personal service rather than an independent agency

3. Flouting the Constitutional duty of the Senate to confirm cabinet positions by appointing "acting" secretaries undermining the separation of powers

4. Bypassing the rule of law by issuing pardons to any number of poilitcal cronies (I realize that that is in his purview, but his use of it seems excessive)

5. His repeated attacks on the press turning a noble profession into (his words) "enemies of the people" and thereby denigrating one of the great watchdogs of American government

6. Using the White House as a partisan political stage, probably in violation of Federal law.

7. Refusing to concede an election he lost and submit to an orderly transfer of power that has been a hallmark of our government for more than 230 years.

8. Declaring that he has (his words) "absolute immunity" in legal matters as President and instructing government officials to ignore legally issued subpoenas.

9. The biggie - fomenting and attempting to overthrow the results of a free and fair election

Need I go on?

Gee, I thought you made that determination on your own before he even took office? All these were left wing talking points made well after that by the press, which he is justified in calling 'fake news'.
You didn't bother to do the second part of your assignment, so let me help you.
Both the administration before his and the present administration can be credibly accused of pretty much all these things, as well.
1. Hillary's big lie and the good ol' Russia hoax.
2. Holder and Garland. Are you serious?
3. I am not familiar with this, but apparently it must have been a loophole he used. Dems never do that, d.o they?
4. Really? You apparently don't like who he gave pardons to. That happens.
5. Noble profession? (wink wink) You seem to exclude Fox News and other conservative outlets, which Obama and Biden have repeatedly slandered.
6. No, Obama didn't do that at all....
7. Um, I think power was actually transferred, wasn't it? Or did I miss it?
8. I believe that is something to be decided by the courts.
9. The biggie. Pure unadulterated bullshit.

flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 7:15 pm

Indoctrinated very early, before he even took office and could do anything at all to threaten the future of our Constitutional government?

On what, exactly, did you base that extremely radical opinion? Hillary's Big Lie?

Only 31 more days until Flock eats crow or invents an excuse to weasel out. My money's on the latter. "They need more time to get their spreadsheets in order..."

Back on topic to atone for getting off it:

Ivana died due to torso injuries from falling down her spiral staircase.

silverscreenselect wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:22 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 7:15 pm

Indoctrinated very early, before he even took office and could do anything at all to threaten the future of our Constitutional government?

On what, exactly, did you base that extremely radical opinion? Hillary's Big Lie?

Only 31 more days until Flock eats crow or invents an excuse to weasel out. My money's on the latter. "They need more time to get their spreadsheets in order..."

It would be a breath of fresh air to have the stench that he so feverishly and obsessively produces here gone.

Who knows? Maybe some former posters would check in more often.

I agree, though, that something or another in his mind will justify re-neging come 8/15 or after being away for awhile.

Im not kidding or exaggerating when I say this: I think he’s addicted.

flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 7:59 pm

kroxquo wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 7:29 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:56 pm

Make a case for that, sir.

1. Undermining confidence in the electoral process thereby devaluing the basic constitutional principle of popular sovreignty

2. Policiticizing the Justice Department so that is employed as his own personal service rather than an independent agency

3. Flouting the Constitutional duty of the Senate to confirm cabinet positions by appointing "acting" secretaries undermining the separation of powers

4. Bypassing the rule of law by issuing pardons to any number of poilitcal cronies (I realize that that is in his purview, but his use of it seems excessive)

5. His repeated attacks on the press turning a noble profession into (his words) "enemies of the people" and thereby denigrating one of the great watchdogs of American government

6. Using the White House as a partisan political stage, probably in violation of Federal law.

7. Refusing to concede an election he lost and submit to an orderly transfer of power that has been a hallmark of our government for more than 230 years.

8. Declaring that he has (his words) "absolute immunity" in legal matters as President and instructing government officials to ignore legally issued subpoenas.

9. The biggie - fomenting and attempting to overthrow the results of a free and fair election

Need I go on?

Gee, I thought you made that determination on your own before he even took office? All these were left wing talking points made well after that by the press, which he is justified in calling 'fake news'.
You didn't bother to do the second part of your assignment, so let me help you.
Both the administration before his and the present administration can be credibly accused of pretty much all these things, as well.
1. Hillary's big lie and the good ol' Russia hoax.
2. Holder and Garland. Are you serious?
3. I am not familiar with this, but apparently it must have been a loophole he used. Dems never do that, d.o they?
4. Really? You apparently don't like who he gave pardons to. That happens.
5. Noble profession? (wink wink) You seem to exclude Fox News and other conservative outlets, which Obama and Biden have repeatedly slandered.
6. No, Obama didn't do that at all....
7. Um, I think power was actually transferred, wasn't it? Or did I miss it?
8. I believe that is something to be decided by the courts.
9. The biggie. Pure unadulterated bullshit.

And all of these are right-wing talking points made repeatedly by conservative media and the 45th President and his team. You accuse me of being nothing more than an indoctrinated parrot of liberal media. You, sir, are a hypocrite.

wbtravis007 wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:12 pm

silverscreenselect wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:22 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 7:15 pm

Indoctrinated very early, before he even took office and could do anything at all to threaten the future of our Constitutional government?

On what, exactly, did you base that extremely radical opinion? Hillary's Big Lie?

Only 31 more days until Flock eats crow or invents an excuse to weasel out. My money's on the latter. "They need more time to get their spreadsheets in order..."

It would be a breath of fresh air to have the stench that he so feverishly and obsessively produces here gone.

Who knows? Maybe some former posters would check in more often.

I agree, though, that something or another in his mind will justify re-neging come 8/15 or after being away for awhile.

Im not kidding or exaggerating when I say this: I think he’s addicted.

Congratulations! Your lack of self-awareness may just have surpassed that of the Bobs. No small feat.

kroxquo wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:20 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 7:59 pm

kroxquo wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 15, 2022 7:29 pm

1. Undermining confidence in the electoral process thereby devaluing the basic constitutional principle of popular sovreignty

2. Policiticizing the Justice Department so that is employed as his own personal service rather than an independent agency

3. Flouting the Constitutional duty of the Senate to confirm cabinet positions by appointing "acting" secretaries undermining the separation of powers

4. Bypassing the rule of law by issuing pardons to any number of poilitcal cronies (I realize that that is in his purview, but his use of it seems excessive)

5. His repeated attacks on the press turning a noble profession into (his words) "enemies of the people" and thereby denigrating one of the great watchdogs of American government

6. Using the White House as a partisan political stage, probably in violation of Federal law.

7. Refusing to concede an election he lost and submit to an orderly transfer of power that has been a hallmark of our government for more than 230 years.

8. Declaring that he has (his words) "absolute immunity" in legal matters as President and instructing government officials to ignore legally issued subpoenas.

9. The biggie - fomenting and attempting to overthrow the results of a free and fair election

Need I go on?

Gee, I thought you made that determination on your own before he even took office? All these were left wing talking points made well after that by the press, which he is justified in calling 'fake news'.
You didn't bother to do the second part of your assignment, so let me help you.
Both the administration before his and the present administration can be credibly accused of pretty much all these things, as well.
1. Hillary's big lie and the good ol' Russia hoax.
2. Holder and Garland. Are you serious?
3. I am not familiar with this, but apparently it must have been a loophole he used. Dems never do that, d.o they?
4. Really? You apparently don't like who he gave pardons to. That happens.
5. Noble profession? (wink wink) You seem to exclude Fox News and other conservative outlets, which Obama and Biden have repeatedly slandered.
6. No, Obama didn't do that at all....
7. Um, I think power was actually transferred, wasn't it? Or did I miss it?
8. I believe that is something to be decided by the courts.
9. The biggie. Pure unadulterated bullshit.

And all of these are right-wing talking points made repeatedly by conservative media and the 45th President and his team. You accuse me of being nothing more than an indoctrinated parrot of liberal media. You, sir, are a hypocrite.

Right wing talking points? Seriously? Try reading Flock's reply sans blinders. Hypocrite, indeed.

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Only 31 more days until Flock eats crow or invents an excuse to weasel out. My money's on the latter. "They need more time to get their spreadsheets in order..."

It would be a breath of fresh air to have the stench that he so feverishly and obsessively produces here gone.

Who knows? Maybe some former posters would check in more often.

I agree, though, that something or another in his mind will justify re-neging come 8/15 or after being away for awhile.

Im not kidding or exaggerating when I say this: I think he’s addicted.

Congratulations! Your lack of self-awareness may just have surpassed that of the Bobs. No small feat.

Aww. That’s so sweet!

Bless your little pea-pickin heart.

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1. Undermining confidence in the electoral process thereby devaluing the basic constitutional principle of popular sovreignty

2. Policiticizing the Justice Department so that is employed as his own personal service rather than an independent agency

3. Flouting the Constitutional duty of the Senate to confirm cabinet positions by appointing "acting" secretaries undermining the separation of powers

4. Bypassing the rule of law by issuing pardons to any number of poilitcal cronies (I realize that that is in his purview, but his use of it seems excessive)

5. His repeated attacks on the press turning a noble profession into (his words) "enemies of the people" and thereby denigrating one of the great watchdogs of American government

6. Using the White House as a partisan political stage, probably in violation of Federal law.

7. Refusing to concede an election he lost and submit to an orderly transfer of power that has been a hallmark of our government for more than 230 years.

8. Declaring that he has (his words) "absolute immunity" in legal matters as President and instructing government officials to ignore legally issued subpoenas.

9. The biggie - fomenting and attempting to overthrow the results of a free and fair election

Need I go on?

Gee, I thought you made that determination on your own before he even took office? All these were left wing talking points made well after that by the press, which he is justified in calling 'fake news'.
You didn't bother to do the second part of your assignment, so let me help you.
Both the administration before his and the present administration can be credibly accused of pretty much all these things, as well.
1. Hillary's big lie and the good ol' Russia hoax.
2. Holder and Garland. Are you serious?
3. I am not familiar with this, but apparently it must have been a loophole he used. Dems never do that, d.o they?
4. Really? You apparently don't like who he gave pardons to. That happens.
5. Noble profession? (wink wink) You seem to exclude Fox News and other conservative outlets, which Obama and Biden have repeatedly slandered.
6. No, Obama didn't do that at all....
7. Um, I think power was actually transferred, wasn't it? Or did I miss it?
8. I believe that is something to be decided by the courts.
9. The biggie. Pure unadulterated bullshit.

And all of these are right-wing talking points made repeatedly by conservative media and the 45th President and his team. You accuse me of being nothing more than an indoctrinated parrot of liberal media. You, sir, are a hypocrite.

Are any of the points I made any less valid than the points you made (and contradicted yourself with)?

From MY point of view and perspective, these things are just as, or more egregious. Add to that the pretty much certitude that, if they had the votes and thought they could get away with it, the dems would pack the Supreme Court and add 1 if not 2 new states to cling to their power.

Sometimes I need to make sure that I'm not really making things worse in my mind then they really are.

You are. But only on one side of the aisle because you are caught in a legacy media echo chamber that is configured just like the Jan 6th committee. You only get one side of any story or issue. The side that fits the predetermined narrative.