I'm pretty sure Abraham Lincoln first wrote that, referring to social media on the Internet.
--BobI'm pretty sure what your intended target with this quote is.
I am very happy to see you finally responding to facts and reason rather than your usual trump-based bias. Gives me hope that our country may survive after all.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:10 am
I'm pretty sure what your intended target with this quote is.
But step back and think about it. What is being repeated most loudly and most often? By innumerable sources using pretty much the same language every time... Why do you think that is?
I knew this would be one of the answers that would be highlighted from the left's perspective. Let me give you some more to ponder.jaybee wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 3:24 pmI am very happy to see you finally responding to facts and reason rather than your usual trump-based bias. Gives me hope that our country may survive after all.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:10 am
I'm pretty sure what your intended target with this quote is.
But step back and think about it. What is being repeated most loudly and most often? By innumerable sources using pretty much the same language every time... Why do you think that is?
What is being repeated most loudly and most often? The election has been stolen! The election has been stolen!
By innumerable sources using pretty much the same language every time? We know it's been stolen because you just know that it's been stolen!
Why do you think that is? As per Krox's original quote. I'm sure that Asimov had no clue that one day it would be possible for this thing called social media to take one lie and almost instantly put it into the minds of millions but the same principle applies - only much more powerful. No one can deny that one of the skills of our former president is his ability to influence via social media.
Whatever True the Vote turned over to the FBI and GBI wasn't sufficient to warrant further investigation. So it's hard to claim that's credible evidence. True the Vote has yet to respond to Georgia subpoenas. The state of Georgia isn't "targeting the messenger." They're giving the messenger every opportunity to come forward with evidence under oath. And they get met with excuses and delays. The State Elections Board did investigate the videos that took place in Georgia and found that there was no illegal ballot harvesting going on in those cases.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:05 pmTrue the Vote has evidence and has given it to the FBI and to several state PTB, only to have it ignored, swept under the rug, and in the case of my own state of Georgia, having TPTB target the messenger. Just because TPTB don't want to investigate the evidence does not mean the 'NEWS' media should report the government official's claims as fact in hard news headlines. That is a lie repeated over and over and so loudly that people like YOU BELIEVE IT.
It is the job of the journalist to compile and report the facts. Not to determine the conclusion. There is NOT ONE journalist who knows for a fact what the truth is pertaining to the 2020 election. NOT ONE! Even though many election rules were arbitrarily changed and state legislatures were bypassed unlawfully.
It is impossible to prove a negative. So the burden is not proving that massive election fraud did not exist, but that it did. And at this juncture, there has been no evidence presented that courts or investigative bodies have deemed worthy enough. If the sources you go back to such as TTV wanted to act in the public interest, they would release what they have, especially when they are under subpoena to do so, The fact they do not raises legitimate concern about motivations. And since the evidence has been dismissed in the proper channels as not being worthy of following up, you automatically assume the worst.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:05 pmI knew this would be one of the answers that would be highlighted from the left's perspective. Let me give you some more to ponder.jaybee wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 3:24 pmI am very happy to see you finally responding to facts and reason rather than your usual trump-based bias. Gives me hope that our country may survive after all.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:10 am
I'm pretty sure what your intended target with this quote is.
But step back and think about it. What is being repeated most loudly and most often? By innumerable sources using pretty much the same language every time... Why do you think that is?
What is being repeated most loudly and most often? The election has been stolen! The election has been stolen!
By innumerable sources using pretty much the same language every time? We know it's been stolen because you just know that it's been stolen!
Why do you think that is? As per Krox's original quote. I'm sure that Asimov had no clue that one day it would be possible for this thing called social media to take one lie and almost instantly put it into the minds of millions but the same principle applies - only much more powerful. No one can deny that one of the skills of our former president is his ability to influence via social media.
All of these featured prominently in supposedly HARD NEWS headlines
... Without Evidence...
... Falsely Claimed...
...Most secure election in history...
and on and on and on....
... Without Evidence...
I have seen evidence. I have even shown indisputable evidence. (The Biden Laptop coverup). There is evidence. True the Vote has evidence and has given it to the FBI and to several state PTB, only to have it ignored, swept under the rug, and in the case of my own state of Georgia, having TPTB target the messenger. Just because TPTB don't want to investigate the evidence does not mean the 'NEWS' media should report the government official's claims as fact in hard news headlines. That is a lie repeated over and over and so loudly that people like YOU BELIEVE IT.
... Falsely Claimed...
It is the job of the journalist to compile and report the facts. Not to determine the conclusion. There is NOT ONE journalist who knows for a fact what the truth is pertaining to the 2020 election. NOT ONE! Even though many election rules were arbitrarily changed and state legislatures were bypassed unlawfully. That is not a false claim. And yet, even if it was, there is one side to the debate that doesn't believe these claims are false. Since WHEN is it a journalist's prerogative to decide what side of an argument is true or false? Yet, they report on HARD NEWS stories, over and over, and very loudly, that any claims of irregularities in the 2020 election are false. So repeatedly and so loudly that people like YOU BELIEVE IT.
...Most secure election in history...
That is the most outrageous lie repeated so often and loudly. WHO made that determination, and to what did they compare it? Where is the EVIDENCE for this lie? If you step back and give this statement even an ounce of thought, you would see this is an incredibly stupid statement for ANYONE to just come out and make. And yet, because it is repeated so often and loudly, people like YOU BELIEVE IT!
Now, I do NOT know if the 2020 election was fraudulent or not. But I DO know that those three phrases repeated endlessly by the MSM are definitely untrue.
And this is just on this topic that YOU brought up. There are MANY other areas where this is the case as well.
You gave your post very little actual thought. But you put it out there because you have been conditioned to believe what they have told you so often and so loudly.
And, from experience, I don't think there's a one of you on this bored that will give ANY thought to what I just wrote. The only movement for any of you will be a little twitch of your knee.
Actually, a more precise analogy would be if 60 doctors looked at the CT scan and they all said you had a brain tumor...
Again, I'll ask the questions that you have ignored:kroxquo wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 7:49 amIt is impossible to prove a negative. So the burden is not proving that massive election fraud did not exist, but that it did. And at this juncture, there has been no evidence presented that courts or investigative bodies have deemed worthy enough. If the sources you go back to such as TTV wanted to act in the public interest, they would release what they have, especially when they are under subpoena to do so, The fact they do not raises legitimate concern about motivations. And since the evidence has been dismissed in the proper channels as not being worthy of following up, you automatically assume the worst.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:05 pmI knew this would be one of the answers that would be highlighted from the left's perspective. Let me give you some more to ponder.jaybee wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 3:24 pm
I am very happy to see you finally responding to facts and reason rather than your usual trump-based bias. Gives me hope that our country may survive after all.
What is being repeated most loudly and most often? The election has been stolen! The election has been stolen!
By innumerable sources using pretty much the same language every time? We know it's been stolen because you just know that it's been stolen!
Why do you think that is? As per Krox's original quote. I'm sure that Asimov had no clue that one day it would be possible for this thing called social media to take one lie and almost instantly put it into the minds of millions but the same principle applies - only much more powerful. No one can deny that one of the skills of our former president is his ability to influence via social media.
All of these featured prominently in supposedly HARD NEWS headlines
... Without Evidence...
... Falsely Claimed...
...Most secure election in history...
and on and on and on....
... Without Evidence...
I have seen evidence. I have even shown indisputable evidence. (The Biden Laptop coverup). There is evidence. True the Vote has evidence and has given it to the FBI and to several state PTB, only to have it ignored, swept under the rug, and in the case of my own state of Georgia, having TPTB target the messenger. Just because TPTB don't want to investigate the evidence does not mean the 'NEWS' media should report the government official's claims as fact in hard news headlines. That is a lie repeated over and over and so loudly that people like YOU BELIEVE IT.
... Falsely Claimed...
It is the job of the journalist to compile and report the facts. Not to determine the conclusion. There is NOT ONE journalist who knows for a fact what the truth is pertaining to the 2020 election. NOT ONE! Even though many election rules were arbitrarily changed and state legislatures were bypassed unlawfully. That is not a false claim. And yet, even if it was, there is one side to the debate that doesn't believe these claims are false. Since WHEN is it a journalist's prerogative to decide what side of an argument is true or false? Yet, they report on HARD NEWS stories, over and over, and very loudly, that any claims of irregularities in the 2020 election are false. So repeatedly and so loudly that people like YOU BELIEVE IT.
...Most secure election in history...
That is the most outrageous lie repeated so often and loudly. WHO made that determination, and to what did they compare it? Where is the EVIDENCE for this lie? If you step back and give this statement even an ounce of thought, you would see this is an incredibly stupid statement for ANYONE to just come out and make. And yet, because it is repeated so often and loudly, people like YOU BELIEVE IT!
Now, I do NOT know if the 2020 election was fraudulent or not. But I DO know that those three phrases repeated endlessly by the MSM are definitely untrue.
And this is just on this topic that YOU brought up. There are MANY other areas where this is the case as well.
You gave your post very little actual thought. But you put it out there because you have been conditioned to believe what they have told you so often and so loudly.
And, from experience, I don't think there's a one of you on this bored that will give ANY thought to what I just wrote. The only movement for any of you will be a little twitch of your knee.
If a doctor looks at a CT scan of my brain and says I have a brain tumor, I am going to believe him even though I can't see it myself. Why? It is his job to do that and he is specifically trained for it. The statements about it being the most secure election in history, was a statement from the people in DHS whose ONLY job is to make sure that elections are conducted properly. At a certain point I have to concede that "I don't know what I don't know" and that they know and understand more than I do, just as I would with that doctor.
Apply Occam's Razor
Scenario 1 - A massive fraud across the country involving hundreds of election officials from both parties in at least a dozen states, the total cooperation of elected officials from both parties from those states, executives and technicians from several private companies, the entire Justice Department and election branch of the Department of Homeland Security, the entire media complex (you don't think a journalist would jump at the chance for a Pulitzer Prize for uncovering real evidence?), and all of this done with total secrecy.
Scenario 2 - "We have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.” - William Barr
Looking objectively - which one is more likely?