Please quote me anyplace that parroted the thoughts on the abortion issue above that I spent a considerable amount of time thinking, writing and editing.kroxquo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:22 pmI'd like to ask you a question and I promise I'm not looking to pick a fight - just asking for information's sake. You have accused me and others of parroting what you call liberal/left-wing talking points and disparage sources that I and others cite when we attempt to explain our positions and/or refute yours. And yet, you seem to do the same thing from the other side - echoing the standard conservative talking points and using questionable source material to explain and/or refute. So my question is - how and why are your methods different than mine?flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:01 pmhttps://www.lifenews.com/2021/02/26/pla ... abortions/triviawayne wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:29 pm
and your source of this is...
never mind, you don't have one backed up with facts.
OK, get your google going. Find the hundreds of responses saying this is wrong, made up, out of context or just to be ignored because it's from a pro-life source. Can't trust anything unless it's from an approved, bonafide leftist source. We all know that. The canned responses are out there, I'm sure. If you have any trouble, ask my stalker. He'll know how to find them. The left never lets anything go unanswered, and they will make sure it comes to the top of any internet search.
Oh, don't worry now. bob is on the job. They will set us all straight, since they know everything about it, whatever it is.
Most of the time, when I link to things, it is to display what others have presented as FACTS that support what I have decided my opinion has come to be. That I am not just parroting other people's OPINIONS. Or to demonstrate that other people SHARE my opinion, much to the disbelief of the self-appointed bored experts on the given subject. Or just to illustrate my point that for every expert you can cite, I can find another expert who 'proves' exactly the opposite. Or to present the ORIGINAL source of the subject, if that can be found, not quoting some dumb, biased (on either side) pundit's summary of it.
I take great pains to state that my views are MY opinions, and that I KNOW THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT I DON'T KNOW, unlike the e-bigots that DON'T KNOW THAT THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DON'T KNOW. And neither do the 'experts' they find on google that they find to 'refute' my considered opinions. Also, find me someone, anyone, that uses that phrase 'KNOWING WHAT THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DON'T KNOW'. That is MY description of the bobs and stalkers of the world, who present THEIR opinions as fact.
I have tried many ways, since I have returned here, to try and find ways to reasonably debate issues that are important to me within this group. All of them have amounted to, as tlynn, I think, described it, 'pissing in the wind'. Has anyone on the other side tried to do that? Or even tried to participate in a reasoned debate, or brook any compromise with ANYONE who didn't subscribe exactly to their point of view?
I tried very hard with you, krox. I did not insult you or patronize you. I read your posts and tried to answer them thoughtfully. I think I even made some concessions to you. I only let my Jerseyness come out for the people who ask for it first. But you started to patronize me and make it personal, in my opinion, so I have, unfortunately, counted you out of the 'middle of the road', and into the 'leaning left' with closed mind category. I don't know, maybe I'm jaded and wrong about that, but this kind of environment kinda does that to you.
I don't think anyone who reads my posts can possibly come to the conclusion that I don't have a mind of my own. If I didn't, I would go along with everyone else on this bored, just to avoid the hassle and constant insults. I try and make my posts as clear, accurate and reasoned as possible. That is why I go back and edit them so often. I don't kneejerk, except when the e-bigots get my shackles up. My responses to their trolls are usually on a much higher grade level then theirs. Especially BJs.