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Prayers for Montana peeps

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:51 pm
by Beebs52
Major flooding, water treatment plant icky, infrastructure, etc. Yellowstone River, Billings enaht.

Re: Prayers for Montana peeps

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 7:31 pm
by Bob Juch
The Yellowstone and Gallatin Rivers are flooding; the rest of Montana is safe.

Re: Prayers for Montana peeps

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:16 pm
by tlynn78
The Yellowstone runs hundreds of miles across (mostly) Montana. My mom lives between the East Rosebud and the Stillwater, which flows into the Yellowstone. She's very blessed to be in a safe spot. Several family friends have flood damage, some have (had) cabins and/or vehicles that the rivers have taken. There are miners who've had to stay at the platinum/palladium mine since end of shift Monday, because the road washed out. So weird, I've traveled that road hundreds of times to go camping, hiking, or to a friend's cabin. Some Search & Rescue friends had to evacuate 65 or so campers by raft..that looked terrifying. The videos of the roads washed out in Yellowstone Park are just unbelievable. My city is in pretty good shape, except for the water treatment plant, but several smaller communities across the southern part of the state are getting hit pretty hard. I'm hearing reports of flooding in the northwest parts of the state, and as far to the east as Miles City. Temps in the 90s this weekend will cause significant snowmelt runoff, but at least the river here has reached its crest and begun to recede. Out west, Missoula is bracing, as they have a good sized river that bisects the city.

Re: Prayers for Montana peeps

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 6:37 am
by themanintheseersuckersuit
Bob Juch wrote:
Wed Jun 15, 2022 7:31 pm
The Yellowstone and Gallatin Rivers are flooding; the rest of Montana is safe.


In 1984 South Carolina had a tornado outbreak. My sister-in-law was working in Toronto. The Canadian news reported “South Carolina hit by tornados; Myrtle Beach spared”

Re: Prayers for Montana peeps

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 6:59 am
by flockofseagulls104
:( :( :(

Re: Prayers for Montana peeps

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 7:41 am
by Bob Juch

Re: Prayers for Montana peeps

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:39 am
by tlynn78
The park is a mess, but they'll have all the funds they need. Billings will be fine (in general) - it's really all the smaller, outlying communities that are hardest hit. Missoula has the Clark Fork running right through the middle, so that might get dicey - but Montana peeps are among the most resilient; we'll be fine <mostly>.

Re: Prayers for Montana peeps

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:16 pm
by silverscreenselect
This is a serious comment and not snark or political commentary:

From what I've heard, Governor Greg Gianforte has been missing for several days and nobody seems to know where he is. Does t-girl or anyone else know what's happening?

Re: Prayers for Montana peeps

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:34 pm
by tlynn78
silverscreenselect wrote:
Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:16 pm
This is a serious comment and not snark or political commentary:

From what I've heard, Governor Greg Gianforte has been missing for several days and nobody seems to know where he is. Does t-girl or anyone else know what's happening?
He's been out of town on a long-planned trip, which began before the rainstorms that precipitated the flooding. He's monitoring the situation, and having meetings remotely, and is on his way back, last I heard. He's most definitely not 'missing'.

Re: Prayers for Montana peeps

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:59 pm
by Bob78164
silverscreenselect wrote:
Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:16 pm
This is a serious comment and not snark or political commentary:

From what I've heard, Governor Greg Gianforte has been missing for several days and nobody seems to know where he is. Does t-girl or anyone else know what's happening?
He's been on vacation in Italy. Which I guess isn't quite as bad as hiking the Appalachian Trail, but it's still not a good look when your state's in crisis. --Bob

Re: Prayers for Montana peeps

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:17 am
by Estonut
Bob78164 wrote:
Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:59 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:
Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:16 pm
This is a serious comment and not snark or political commentary:

From what I've heard, Governor Greg Gianforte has been missing for several days and nobody seems to know where he is. Does t-girl or anyone else know what's happening?
He's been on vacation in Italy. Which I guess isn't quite as bad as hiking the Appalachian Trail, but it's still not a good look when your state's in crisis.
Did your thorough research not indicate that he left well before the crisis? Or that he was handling this remotely while trying to return ASAP? What, exactly, do you think your beloved Gavin Newsom would have done to provide a better look in such a case?

Re: Prayers for Montana peeps

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:54 am
by Bob Juch
Estonut wrote:
Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:17 am
Bob78164 wrote:
Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:59 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:
Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:16 pm
This is a serious comment and not snark or political commentary:

From what I've heard, Governor Greg Gianforte has been missing for several days and nobody seems to know where he is. Does t-girl or anyone else know what's happening?
He's been on vacation in Italy. Which I guess isn't quite as bad as hiking the Appalachian Trail, but it's still not a good look when your state's in crisis.
Did your thorough research not indicate that he left well before the crisis? Or that he was handling this remotely while trying to return ASAP? What, exactly, do you think your beloved Gavin Newsom would have done to provide a better look in such a case?
I doubt Newsom would instruct his office to refuse to say where he was.

Re: Prayers for Montana peeps

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:33 am
by Bob78164
Estonut wrote:
Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:17 am
Bob78164 wrote:
Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:59 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:
Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:16 pm
This is a serious comment and not snark or political commentary:

From what I've heard, Governor Greg Gianforte has been missing for several days and nobody seems to know where he is. Does t-girl or anyone else know what's happening?
He's been on vacation in Italy. Which I guess isn't quite as bad as hiking the Appalachian Trail, but it's still not a good look when your state's in crisis.
Did your thorough research not indicate that he left well before the crisis? Or that he was handling this remotely while trying to return ASAP? What, exactly, do you think your beloved Gavin Newsom would have done to provide a better look in such a case?
He made the choice not to end his vacation early while his state was dealing with a 500-year flood. Just as Ted Cruz made a choice to leave for Mexico while his state was dealing with a crisis. People can make their own judgments about what that choice says about his leadership and character. Just as they did when he criminally assaulted a reporter.

Personally, as someone who has had to interrupt vacations to deal with work emergencies, I prefer leaders like Zelensky, who placed his own personal safety at risk and refused offers to evacuate him in order to remain at his post. --Bob

Re: Prayers for Montana peeps

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:45 am
by Beebs52
Bob78164 wrote:
Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:33 am
Estonut wrote:
Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:17 am
Bob78164 wrote:
Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:59 pm
He's been on vacation in Italy. Which I guess isn't quite as bad as hiking the Appalachian Trail, but it's still not a good look when your state's in crisis.
Did your thorough research not indicate that he left well before the crisis? Or that he was handling this remotely while trying to return ASAP? What, exactly, do you think your beloved Gavin Newsom would have done to provide a better look in such a case?
He made the choice not to end his vacation early while his state was dealing with a 500-year flood. Just as Ted Cruz made a choice to leave for Mexico while his state was dealing with a crisis. People can make their own judgments about what that choice says about his leadership and character. Just as they did when he criminally assaulted a reporter.

Personally, as someone who has had to interrupt vacations to deal with work emergencies, I prefer leaders like Zelensky, who placed his own personal safety at risk and refused offers to evacuate him in order to remain at his post. --Bob
Do you ever dislocate your shoulder from back-patting?

Re: Prayers for Montana peeps

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:50 am
by tlynn78
Beebs52 wrote:
Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:45 am
Bob78164 wrote:
Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:33 am
Estonut wrote:
Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:17 am
Did your thorough research not indicate that he left well before the crisis? Or that he was handling this remotely while trying to return ASAP? What, exactly, do you think your beloved Gavin Newsom would have done to provide a better look in such a case?
He made the choice not to end his vacation early while his state was dealing with a 500-year flood. Just as Ted Cruz made a choice to leave for Mexico while his state was dealing with a crisis. People can make their own judgments about what that choice says about his leadership and character. Just as they did when he criminally assaulted a reporter.

Personally, as someone who has had to interrupt vacations to deal with work emergencies, I prefer leaders like Zelensky, who placed his own personal safety at risk and refused offers to evacuate him in order to remain at his post. --Bob
Do you ever dislocate your shoulder from back-patting?
Double jointed?
Gianforte should be more like Newsom when he hosted a mask-free indoor dinner party at the height of COVID. Maybe Gianforte will organize a water balloon fight in Red Lodge when he gets back.

Re: Prayers for Montana peeps

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:11 pm
by Spock
Bob Juch wrote:
Wed Jun 15, 2022 7:31 pm
The Yellowstone and Gallatin Rivers are flooding; the rest of Montana is safe.
Said the obnoxious, blowhard, internet know-it-all who (given flooding concerns in other parts of the state) apparently could not be more wrong.

https://montanafreepress.org/2022/06/14 ... y-on-edge/

Re: Prayers for Montana peeps

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:51 pm
by Bob Juch
Spock wrote:
Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:11 pm
Bob Juch wrote:
Wed Jun 15, 2022 7:31 pm
The Yellowstone and Gallatin Rivers are flooding; the rest of Montana is safe.
Said the obnoxious, blowhard, internet know-it-all who (given flooding concerns in other parts of the state) apparently could not be more wrong.

https://montanafreepress.org/2022/06/14 ... y-on-edge/
At the time I wrote it, my statement was correct.

Re: Prayers for Montana peeps

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:08 pm
by Beebs52
Bob Juch wrote:
Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:51 pm
Spock wrote:
Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:11 pm
Bob Juch wrote:
Wed Jun 15, 2022 7:31 pm
The Yellowstone and Gallatin Rivers are flooding; the rest of Montana is safe.
Said the obnoxious, blowhard, internet know-it-all who (given flooding concerns in other parts of the state) apparently could not be more wrong.

https://montanafreepress.org/2022/06/14 ... y-on-edge/
At the time I wrote it, my statement was correct.
You cited no source then. Afterwards, you posted a NY Times link. They'll certainly be on the case...

Re: Prayers for Montana peeps

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:50 pm
by tlynn78
Beebs52 wrote:
Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:08 pm
Bob Juch wrote:
Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:51 pm
Spock wrote:
Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:11 pm


Said the obnoxious, blowhard, internet know-it-all who (given flooding concerns in other parts of the state) apparently could not be more wrong.

https://montanafreepress.org/2022/06/14 ... y-on-edge/
At the time I wrote it, my statement was correct.
You cited no source then. Afterwards, you posted a NY Times link. They'll certainly be on the case...
And, actually, when I read that post, I'd already heard about issues with the Flathead, et al, but though eh, why bother?

Re: Prayers for Montana peeps

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 5:22 am
by Estonut
Bob Juch wrote:
Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:54 am
Estonut wrote:
Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:17 am
Bob78164 wrote:
Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:59 pm
He's been on vacation in Italy. Which I guess isn't quite as bad as hiking the Appalachian Trail, but it's still not a good look when your state's in crisis.
Did your thorough research not indicate that he left well before the crisis? Or that he was handling this remotely while trying to return ASAP? What, exactly, do you think your beloved Gavin Newsom would have done to provide a better look in such a case?
I doubt Newsom would instruct his office to refuse to say where he was.
Based on what? His previous actions indicate otherwise.

Re: Prayers for Montana peeps

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:19 am
by silverscreenselect
I just got an email today from my friend Aaron Frale. He's one of the authors I've reviewed on Amazon (as well as two of our current Bored members). I appeared on his podcast a couple of years ago. He moved to Montana a while back and I asked him whether the flooding affected him:
Yeah, the flooding happened where we used to live. We literally missed it by a few days. Though Billings wasn't as bad as Red Lodge and the Yellowstone park. That road that was washed away, we had driven on many times. We'd go through Red Lodge over the Beartooth to Yellowstone, and out by Gardener, so it was crazy to see all these places we had frequented many times under water (an Airbnb we had stayed at was right in the worst of the flooding in Red Lodge).
His wife had just taken a new job in Butte, and they had moved there recently. It wasn't until I heard from him just how close he had come.

Re: Prayers for Montana peeps

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:48 am
by tlynn78
Estonut wrote:
Sat Jun 18, 2022 5:22 am
Bob Juch wrote:
Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:54 am
Estonut wrote:
Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:17 am
Did your thorough research not indicate that he left well before the crisis? Or that he was handling this remotely while trying to return ASAP? What, exactly, do you think your beloved Gavin Newsom would have done to provide a better look in such a case?
I doubt Newsom would instruct his office to refuse to say where he was.
Based on what? His previous actions indicate otherwise.
This aged well. Not only did Newsome not disclose his location, his location happens to be on the California travel ban list. Rules for thee..

Re: Prayers for Montana peeps

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:22 am
by Bob78164
tlynn78 wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:48 am
Estonut wrote:
Sat Jun 18, 2022 5:22 am
Bob Juch wrote:
Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:54 am
I doubt Newsom would instruct his office to refuse to say where he was.
Based on what? His previous actions indicate otherwise.
This aged well. Not only did Newsome not disclose his location, his location happens to be on the California travel ban list. Rules for thee.
The state-funded travel ban list. This was a personal vacation. Any evidence that he spent state funds?

And who is this "Newsome" person to whom you're referring? --Bob

Re: Prayers for Montana peeps

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:06 pm
by tlynn78
Bob78164 wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:22 am
tlynn78 wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:48 am
Estonut wrote:
Sat Jun 18, 2022 5:22 am
Based on what? His previous actions indicate otherwise.
This aged well. Not only did Newsome not disclose his location, his location happens to be on the California travel ban list. Rules for thee.
The state-funded travel ban list. This was a personal vacation. Any evidence that he spent state funds?

And who is this "Newsome" person to whom you're referring? --Bob
Non-responsive, counselor.

Re: Prayers for Montana peeps

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:35 am
by Estonut
Bob78164 wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:22 am
tlynn78 wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:48 am
Estonut wrote:
Sat Jun 18, 2022 5:22 am
Based on what? His previous actions indicate otherwise.
This aged well. Not only did Newsome not disclose his location, his location happens to be on the California travel ban list. Rules for thee.
The state-funded travel ban list. This was a personal vacation. Any evidence that he spent state funds?
Do you not find it hypocritical that he bans state-funded travel because of policies which he finds abhorrent, yet has no problem spending his own hard-earned money in such a horrible place?

Further, his staff refuses to answer the question regarding whether or not he has a state-funded security detail along with him, so you can bet the answer is "yes!"