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That's because it was business as usual in Chicago.Spock wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 6:48 pmI note that BOBJ-informs us of a shooting in Tulsa-but he strangely did not inform us of the Chicago Memorial Day shooting stats.
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/c ... e/2845854/
More than 50 shot-9 fatally in Memorial Day Weekend violence.
While mass shootings typically receive extensive media coverage, incidents in which armed citizens prevent them tend to get less coverage.
According to West Virginia’s Eyewitness News, one such example played out this week after a woman used her legally carried weapon to stop a gunman.
The shooter had an extensive criminal history
Authorities say Dennis Butler began firing at a crowd of people who were attending a graduation party outside of a Charleston apartment complex on Wednesday. While Butler was shot and later died of his wounds, none of the partygoers were injured.
The armed woman has not been charged and Charleston Police Department Chief of Detectives Tony Hazelett offered words of praise for her
“Instead of running from the threat, she engaged with the threat and saved several lives last night,” Eyewitness News quoted Hazelett as saying.
The news outlet also reported that Butler had an extensive criminal history and was legally barred from possessing a weapon.
In addition to having previously been charged with shooting a woman in the face, he was wanted on a charge of transferring and receiving stolen goods at the time of his death.
Armed citizens have prevented tragedies
This was far from being the first time that a legally armed citizen halted a mass shooting, as similar examples can be found across the country.
Dallas News reported in 2017 that a man who was armed with two guns and two knives stormed an Arlington, Texas was shot by a patron after he had killed one person.
Law enforcement officers hailed the patron as “a hero,” and pointed out that he “had the capacity to do much greater harm.”
Meanwhile, an armed Alabama McDonald’s customer was also called “a hero” the following year when employees credited him with preventing a massacre at a fast-food restaurant.
Also in 2018, police in Titusville, Florida credited a man with stopping a shooting at a back-to-school event. Deputy Chief Todd Hutchinson told WFTV 9, “We are extremely grateful that nobody else was injured in this incident. This suspect opened fire at a crowded public park, this could have been so much worse.”
Oh. yeah. Then it's ok, right?Bob Juch wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:04 pmThat's because it was business as usual in Chicago.Spock wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 6:48 pmI note that BOBJ-informs us of a shooting in Tulsa-but he strangely did not inform us of the Chicago Memorial Day shooting stats.
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/c ... e/2845854/
More than 50 shot-9 fatally in Memorial Day Weekend violence.
WTF is wrong with you? It is acceptable in Chicago, but not in other places?Bob Juch wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:04 pmThat's because it was business as usual in Chicago.Spock wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 6:48 pmI note that BOBJ-informs us of a shooting in Tulsa-but he strangely did not inform us of the Chicago Memorial Day shooting stats.
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/c ... e/2845854/
More than 50 shot-9 fatally in Memorial Day Weekend violence.
What kind of question is that? You don't know what is wrong with him by now?Spock wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:58 pmWTF is wrong with you? It is acceptable in Chicago, but not in other places?Bob Juch wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:04 pmThat's because it was business as usual in Chicago.Spock wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 6:48 pmI note that BOBJ-informs us of a shooting in Tulsa-but he strangely did not inform us of the Chicago Memorial Day shooting stats.
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/c ... e/2845854/
More than 50 shot-9 fatally in Memorial Day Weekend violence.
It's certainly not okay, but it happens so often it's no longer newsworthy unless a good-looking White person is shot.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:55 pmOh. yeah. Then it's ok, right?Bob Juch wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:04 pmThat's because it was business as usual in Chicago.Spock wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 6:48 pmI note that BOBJ-informs us of a shooting in Tulsa-but he strangely did not inform us of the Chicago Memorial Day shooting stats.
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/c ... e/2845854/
More than 50 shot-9 fatally in Memorial Day Weekend violence.
I am sure these gun deaths gave you the same hard on regardlessSpock wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 6:48 pmI note that BOBJ-informs us of a shooting in Tulsa-but he strangely did not inform us of the Chicago Memorial Day shooting stats.
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/c ... e/2845854/
More than 50 shot-9 fatally in Memorial Day Weekend violence.
I think the media does not emphasize the situation because they are so rare.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:53 pmIt is disgusting to me how fucked up our media has become.
Yes, some shootings are more equal than others. Here is a shooting incident that is very newsworthy. I searched for it on google. NOT ONE MENTION OF THIS BY ANY OF THE 'APPROVED' MEDIA OUTLETS ON THE LEFT. But you e-bigots automatically reject any news that comes from any other news source.
https://conservativeinstitute.org/conse ... ooting.htm
While mass shootings typically receive extensive media coverage, incidents in which armed citizens prevent them tend to get less coverage.
According to West Virginia’s Eyewitness News, one such example played out this week after a woman used her legally carried weapon to stop a gunman.
The shooter had an extensive criminal history
Authorities say Dennis Butler began firing at a crowd of people who were attending a graduation party outside of a Charleston apartment complex on Wednesday. While Butler was shot and later died of his wounds, none of the partygoers were injured.
The armed woman has not been charged and Charleston Police Department Chief of Detectives Tony Hazelett offered words of praise for her
“Instead of running from the threat, she engaged with the threat and saved several lives last night,” Eyewitness News quoted Hazelett as saying.
The news outlet also reported that Butler had an extensive criminal history and was legally barred from possessing a weapon.
In addition to having previously been charged with shooting a woman in the face, he was wanted on a charge of transferring and receiving stolen goods at the time of his death.
Armed citizens have prevented tragedies
This was far from being the first time that a legally armed citizen halted a mass shooting, as similar examples can be found across the country.
Dallas News reported in 2017 that a man who was armed with two guns and two knives stormed an Arlington, Texas was shot by a patron after he had killed one person.
Law enforcement officers hailed the patron as “a hero,” and pointed out that he “had the capacity to do much greater harm.”
Meanwhile, an armed Alabama McDonald’s customer was also called “a hero” the following year when employees credited him with preventing a massacre at a fast-food restaurant.
Also in 2018, police in Titusville, Florida credited a man with stopping a shooting at a back-to-school event. Deputy Chief Todd Hutchinson told WFTV 9, “We are extremely grateful that nobody else was injured in this incident. This suspect opened fire at a crowded public park, this could have been so much worse.”
I am soooo happy that you are amused.Weyoun wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:04 pmI think the media does not emphasize the situation because they are so rare.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:53 pmIt is disgusting to me how fucked up our media has become.
Yes, some shootings are more equal than others. Here is a shooting incident that is very newsworthy. I searched for it on google. NOT ONE MENTION OF THIS BY ANY OF THE 'APPROVED' MEDIA OUTLETS ON THE LEFT. But you e-bigots automatically reject any news that comes from any other news source.
https://conservativeinstitute.org/conse ... ooting.htm
While mass shootings typically receive extensive media coverage, incidents in which armed citizens prevent them tend to get less coverage.
According to West Virginia’s Eyewitness News, one such example played out this week after a woman used her legally carried weapon to stop a gunman.
The shooter had an extensive criminal history
Authorities say Dennis Butler began firing at a crowd of people who were attending a graduation party outside of a Charleston apartment complex on Wednesday. While Butler was shot and later died of his wounds, none of the partygoers were injured.
The armed woman has not been charged and Charleston Police Department Chief of Detectives Tony Hazelett offered words of praise for her
“Instead of running from the threat, she engaged with the threat and saved several lives last night,” Eyewitness News quoted Hazelett as saying.
The news outlet also reported that Butler had an extensive criminal history and was legally barred from possessing a weapon.
In addition to having previously been charged with shooting a woman in the face, he was wanted on a charge of transferring and receiving stolen goods at the time of his death.
Armed citizens have prevented tragedies
This was far from being the first time that a legally armed citizen halted a mass shooting, as similar examples can be found across the country.
Dallas News reported in 2017 that a man who was armed with two guns and two knives stormed an Arlington, Texas was shot by a patron after he had killed one person.
Law enforcement officers hailed the patron as “a hero,” and pointed out that he “had the capacity to do much greater harm.”
Meanwhile, an armed Alabama McDonald’s customer was also called “a hero” the following year when employees credited him with preventing a massacre at a fast-food restaurant.
Also in 2018, police in Titusville, Florida credited a man with stopping a shooting at a back-to-school event. Deputy Chief Todd Hutchinson told WFTV 9, “We are extremely grateful that nobody else was injured in this incident. This suspect opened fire at a crowded public park, this could have been so much worse.”
I am amused that you think this somehow justifies all these guns everywhere
If a surgeon told a patient that someone usually died when a certain thing happened, except for the occasional time when they did not, that person probably would not get that operation.
The problem is that incidents like this don't impel people to do anything about them. The only people who voice concerns are those who are consistent derided by the right-wingers for wanting to take everybody's guns away. The public as a whole doesn't care enough to want to take action or to pressure their elected officials to take action. More specifically, the elected representatives in the areas where there's the most shootings do want something done, but they're "the same bunch that always wants to take our guns away."
Here's something else that doesn't get reported all that oftenflockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:11 pmI just happen to think that the MSM doesn't report on these kinds of things because it contradicts their chosen narrative. And other websites do report on this kind of incident because it supports THEIR narrative, and it shows that the MSM is biased because it doesn't report the news, only what they think and most importantly, WHAT THEY DECIDE is important.
Put more guns in high tension situations in the hands of inexperienced, well-meaning "Guardians," and you'll get more incidents like this one.An Atlanta police officer was shot in northwest Atlanta Thursday morning and is in the hospital after responding to a call of a possible burglary at the “A Ma Maneire” shoe store on Marietta Street. Police investigators said when officers arrived at the store, they immediately went around to the back where they found burglars had broken through a back wall to the store. Once they got to the back, they said the suspects ran away. While that was happening, police said a security guard fired one shot. That shot hit the officer who was transported to Grady Memorial Hospital where he was reported to be recovering. “We’re currently speaking with him, reviewing video and looking at all aspects to give us the clearest picture of what transpired this morning,” said Assistant Police Chief Darin Schierbaum
Early Thursday afternoon, Atlanta Police announced that they had arrested the security guard, 41-year-old Paul Augustin. Augustin is facing charges of aggravated assault, possession of a firearm during the commission of a felony and reckless conduct in relation to shooting the police officer. Aggravated Assault,
Are your 'gun nuts' the same people as 'anti-vaxxers'? Or are they a subset?
Apparently all large liberal democracies other than the USA were able to restrict gun ownership without chaos in the streets or a dictator taking over.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:36 amAre your 'gun nuts' the same people as 'anti-vaxxers'? Or are they a subset?
You seem to have a lot of people put into groups in your head.
It might not occur to you that Chicago has very strict gun laws. Somehow the criminals seem to find ways to get guns. I guess it's from Indiana, right? Get more common-sense gun laws in Indiana and that will stop the gun violence in Chicago, right?
But isn't murder against the law? These stupid criminals! We've got to educate them on what laws they need to comply with!
I'm sure if we get common-sense gun laws established on a nationwide basis, they will eagerly comply with all of them. It's just common sense, right? And they will be lining up to surrender all their guns if we have a buy back program. Now if we can just teach them not to murder each other.
So you're saying that because gun laws don't work we shouldn't have more?flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:36 amAre your 'gun nuts' the same people as 'anti-vaxxers'? Or are they a subset?
You seem to have a lot of people put into groups in your head.
It might not occur to you that Chicago has very strict gun laws. Somehow the criminals seem to find ways to get guns. I guess it's from Indiana, right? Get more common-sense gun laws in Indiana and that will stop the gun violence in Chicago, right?
But isn't murder against the law? These stupid criminals! We've got to educate them on what laws they need to comply with!
I'm sure if we get common-sense gun laws established on a nationwide basis, they will eagerly comply with all of them. It's just common sense, right? And they will be lining up to surrender all their guns if we have a buy back program. Now if we can just teach them not to murder each other.
We can have all the laws you ever could want. But what is their purpose and what will they do?Bob Juch wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:44 amSo you're saying that because gun laws don't work we shouldn't have more?flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:36 amAre your 'gun nuts' the same people as 'anti-vaxxers'? Or are they a subset?
You seem to have a lot of people put into groups in your head.
It might not occur to you that Chicago has very strict gun laws. Somehow the criminals seem to find ways to get guns. I guess it's from Indiana, right? Get more common-sense gun laws in Indiana and that will stop the gun violence in Chicago, right?
But isn't murder against the law? These stupid criminals! We've got to educate them on what laws they need to comply with!
I'm sure if we get common-sense gun laws established on a nationwide basis, they will eagerly comply with all of them. It's just common sense, right? And they will be lining up to surrender all their guns if we have a buy back program. Now if we can just teach them not to murder each other.
How about nationwide universal background checks?
Don't set up a straw man here. We already have a background check system. I want to expand that to gun show purchases and private sales.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:44 amWe can have all the laws you ever could want. But what is their purpose and what will they do?Bob Juch wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:44 amSo you're saying that because gun laws don't work we shouldn't have more?flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:36 am
Are your 'gun nuts' the same people as 'anti-vaxxers'? Or are they a subset?
You seem to have a lot of people put into groups in your head.
It might not occur to you that Chicago has very strict gun laws. Somehow the criminals seem to find ways to get guns. I guess it's from Indiana, right? Get more common-sense gun laws in Indiana and that will stop the gun violence in Chicago, right?
But isn't murder against the law? These stupid criminals! We've got to educate them on what laws they need to comply with!
I'm sure if we get common-sense gun laws established on a nationwide basis, they will eagerly comply with all of them. It's just common sense, right? And they will be lining up to surrender all their guns if we have a buy back program. Now if we can just teach them not to murder each other.
How about nationwide universal background checks?
Universal background checks... Have you ever once asked yourself any questions about Universal Background Checks, or have you just decided UBCs are GOOD and everyone who has any questions or qualms about them is EVIL?
OK, who will perform them? Who will be in charge of interpreting them? Who will enforce them? What oversight will these people be subject to? What will the rules for rejection be? If you watched Sean Hannity once, will they deny your application? How will it in any way stop criminals from getting guns?
Some criminals or would-be criminals find ways to get guns. Others don't. Still others try to get guns and wind up "buying" them from undercover police officers or informants. The result is that there are still way too many guns and criminals with guns but far fewer than there would have been.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:36 amIt might not occur to you that Chicago has very strict gun laws. Somehow the criminals seem to find ways to get guns.
OK, you'll have to educate me on this. All the BAD, EVIL guns are sold at gunshows and privately?Bob Juch wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:20 pmDon't set up a straw man here. We already have a background check system. I want to expand that to gun show purchases and private sales.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:44 amWe can have all the laws you ever could want. But what is their purpose and what will they do?
Universal background checks... Have you ever once asked yourself any questions about Universal Background Checks, or have you just decided UBCs are GOOD and everyone who has any questions or qualms about them is EVIL?
OK, who will perform them? Who will be in charge of interpreting them? Who will enforce them? What oversight will these people be subject to? What will the rules for rejection be? If you watched Sean Hannity once, will they deny your application? How will it in any way stop criminals from getting guns?