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#101 Post by BackInTex » Thu May 19, 2022 2:27 pm

Atlanta Journal wrote: Surveillance video showed a man pull up in a white SUV and insert five absentee ballots into a Gwinnett County drop box, leading to allegations of “ballot harvesting” promoted by the movie “2000 Mules.” An investigation revealed he was delivering ballots for his family, which is allowed under Georgia law.
I wonder how the investigator was able to determine how 5 anonymous ballots placed in a box a year ago were from the guy's family. Maybe they just asked him.
Atlana Journal wrote: An investigator told the board that in each case, he tracked license plate numbers, interviewed voters and confirmed that ballots belonged to family members in the same household.
Again, anonymous ballots, dropped in a box over a year ago, then collected and dumped in with 1,000s of other ballots. How are they "confirming" they belonged to family members.
Atlanta Journal wrote: we're tracking every one of them down, and we’ll report back to you what we find.”
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#102 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Thu May 19, 2022 2:36 pm

BackInTex wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 2:27 pm
Atlanta Journal wrote: Surveillance video showed a man pull up in a white SUV and insert five absentee ballots into a Gwinnett County drop box, leading to allegations of “ballot harvesting” promoted by the movie “2000 Mules.” An investigation revealed he was delivering ballots for his family, which is allowed under Georgia law.
I wonder how the investigator was able to determine how 5 anonymous ballots placed in a box a year ago were from the guy's family. Maybe they just asked him.
Atlana Journal wrote: An investigator told the board that in each case, he tracked license plate numbers, interviewed voters and confirmed that ballots belonged to family members in the same household.
Again, anonymous ballots, dropped in a box over a year ago, then collected and dumped in with 1,000s of other ballots. How are they "confirming" they belonged to family members.
Atlanta Journal wrote: we're tracking every one of them down, and we’ll report back to you what we find.”
..." if it doesn't implicate any of our bosses."
Well, I don't know about your hometown newspaper, but, gosh, the AJC would NEVER lie or mislead us!
Well, if you don't count Richard Jewell.
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#103 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu May 19, 2022 3:00 pm

BackInTex wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 2:27 pm
Atlanta Journal wrote: Surveillance video showed a man pull up in a white SUV and insert five absentee ballots into a Gwinnett County drop box, leading to allegations of “ballot harvesting” promoted by the movie “2000 Mules.” An investigation revealed he was delivering ballots for his family, which is allowed under Georgia law.
I wonder how the investigator was able to determine how 5 anonymous ballots placed in a box a year ago were from the guy's family. Maybe they just asked him.
Well, I would assume that he had the names and registration addresses of all his family members when asked, just as Mrs. SSS and our daughter are registered at the same mailing address as me.

Of course, it's possible that he was living in a household with four other registered voters and he used that as cover to drop in harvested ballots for five strangers.
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#104 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu May 19, 2022 3:04 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 2:36 pm
Well, I don't know about your hometown newspaper, but, gosh, the AJC would NEVER lie or mislead us!
Well, if you don't count Richard Jewell.
It's not the AJC that would be lying or misleading. It's the State Elections Board, which unanimously rejected all the open cases of supposed ballot harvesting.
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#105 Post by BackInTex » Thu May 19, 2022 3:52 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 3:00 pm
BackInTex wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 2:27 pm
Atlanta Journal wrote: Surveillance video showed a man pull up in a white SUV and insert five absentee ballots into a Gwinnett County drop box, leading to allegations of “ballot harvesting” promoted by the movie “2000 Mules.” An investigation revealed he was delivering ballots for his family, which is allowed under Georgia law.
I wonder how the investigator was able to determine how 5 anonymous ballots placed in a box a year ago were from the guy's family. Maybe they just asked him.
Well, I would assume that he had the names and registration addresses of all his family members when asked, just as Mrs. SSS and our daughter are registered at the same mailing address as me.

Of course, it's possible that he was living in a household with four other registered voters and he used that as cover to drop in harvested ballots for five strangers.
Just because he may have lived with 5 other registered voters does not mean the five ballots he was caught putting in the box were theirs. Then there is also the question what was he doing when he visited at least 9 other drop boxes.
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Re: 2000 Mules

#106 Post by BackInTex » Thu May 19, 2022 3:53 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 3:04 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 2:36 pm
Well, I don't know about your hometown newspaper, but, gosh, the AJC would NEVER lie or mislead us!
Well, if you don't count Richard Jewell.
It's not the AJC that would be lying or misleading. It's the State Elections Board, which unanimously rejected all the open cases of supposed ballot harvesting.
Who makes up the State Elections Board?
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#107 Post by Bob78164 » Thu May 19, 2022 4:07 pm

BackInTex wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 3:52 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 3:00 pm
BackInTex wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 2:27 pm
I wonder how the investigator was able to determine how 5 anonymous ballots placed in a box a year ago were from the guy's family. Maybe they just asked him.
Well, I would assume that he had the names and registration addresses of all his family members when asked, just as Mrs. SSS and our daughter are registered at the same mailing address as me.

Of course, it's possible that he was living in a household with four other registered voters and he used that as cover to drop in harvested ballots for five strangers.
Just because he may have lived with 5 other registered voters does not mean the five ballots he was caught putting in the box were theirs.
What reason do you have to believe they weren't? Neither he (nor anyone else) is obligated to prove innocence. Anyone who thinks he was doing something wrong bears the burden of proving it.

I wonder if he's interested in pursuing a defamation action against the filmmakers accusing him of wrongful conduct. --Bob
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#108 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu May 19, 2022 4:58 pm

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Thu May 19, 2022 3:53 pm
Who makes up the State Elections Board?
The two political parties nominate members which are subsequently approved by the General Assembly. There are currently four Republicans and one Democrat on the Board. The decision to reject the ballot harvesting claims was unanimous.

As far as the voter making ten trips to the ballot boxes, there was no evidence of this introduced. All we have are the unsupported claims of True the Vote that these 250 people exist. This voter made one trip to the drop box to drop off the exact number of ballots that were registered at his address. And by the way, the election records can confirm that these people all voted absentee. By your standard, you could contest virtually every absentee ballot in the state because hypothetically someone might have cast a fraudulent ballot. And despite all the claims that people were making dozens of trips to the drop boxes, there is no video evidence of any individual making more than one trip to a drop box and casting multiple ballots.

The State Election Board operates on evidence and proof. There was no evidence of fraud in this case. That's the same scenario that has transpired in the dozens of cases alleging all sorts of fraud. NO PROOF. True the Vote is supposed to produce their evidence in response to a subpoena. We'll see what they actually produce.
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#109 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Thu May 19, 2022 6:59 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 4:07 pm
BackInTex wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 3:52 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 3:00 pm
Well, I would assume that he had the names and registration addresses of all his family members when asked, just as Mrs. SSS and our daughter are registered at the same mailing address as me.

Of course, it's possible that he was living in a household with four other registered voters and he used that as cover to drop in harvested ballots for five strangers.
Just because he may have lived with 5 other registered voters does not mean the five ballots he was caught putting in the box were theirs.
What reason do you have to believe they weren't? Neither he (nor anyone else) is obligated to prove innocence. Anyone who thinks he was doing something wrong bears the burden of proving it.

I wonder if he's interested in pursuing a defamation action against the filmmakers accusing him of wrongful conduct. --Bob
OK, so bob finally weighs in.
Hey bob, As far as I know, the film has designated no individuals. Any names will have to come from legal authorities, and THEY are responsible for any damages. But I think you know that. just another above average lawyer trick.
They have shown several totally legal videos of people that they say they tracked going to at least 10 ballot drop boxes in the same day. These ballot boxes, presumably funded by Zuckerberg, are not right next to each other in a straight line. You have to go way out of your way to even get within 100 feet of 10 ballot boxes in one day. Some of the videos are pretty suspicious. You might even think so, if you were brave enough and had any inclination to open your mind past your echo chamber.

But, yes, we have to, at least for now, take their word for it. There is no way they could have presented all the evidence they have to back up their claims in a 2 hour time frame. I tend to take their word for it, because it would be pretty brazen to make these claims if you couldn't support it. They might have been able to do it, if these election officials, that the stalker puts so much faith in, had bothered to comply with the law and put up 24/7 surveillance cameras on all the drop boxes, but apparently they didn't bother to do that. And Arizona, for some reason, WON'T give it to them, even though it's supposed to be public record.

I am awaiting for them to pull the Ripcord, as they said they would, and provide all the evidence they have collected for the public to view. So, until then, I give THEM the benefit of the doubt, especially when I see the weak and lame excuses that the 'fact checkers' and useful idiots like the Stalker present. But I DO want to see what they put out when they pull the ripcord.
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#110 Post by wbtravis007 » Thu May 19, 2022 8:06 pm

If I had as much money as these people are making on this I’d bet it all against the proposition that we’re all going to see, once they “pull the rip chord,” that there is more to this than an opportunity to sucker a lot of people out of their money.

Course, I could be wrong. I guess I’m one who “someone “ considers to be too cowardly to watch, or has listened to somebody or another who has urged me not to watch it, or whatever.

Don’t know anything about it other than what I’ve seen here. But, I’d still make that bet. Doesn’t pass the smell test, for me.

Maybe they were smart enough to keep themselves out of court. Like Fox News.

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#111 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu May 19, 2022 9:35 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 6:59 pm
They have shown several totally legal videos of people that they say they tracked going to at least 10 ballot drop boxes in the same day.
Actually, there's no video evidence of any individual going to more than one drop box. The True the Vote people claim that they have 250 or so people who fit into this category, but we haven't seen any names or phone numbers to substantiate that.
Some of the videos are pretty suspicious.
If you go through the hundreds of videos of people dropping ballots in drop boxes, I'm sure you could find a handful that look "pretty suspicious."
I am awaiting for them to pull the Ripcord, as they said they would, and provide all the evidence they have collected for the public to view. So, until then, I give THEM the benefit of the doubt, especially when I see the weak and lame excuses that the 'fact checkers' and useful idiots like the Stalker present. But I DO want to see what they put out when they pull the ripcord.
You're going to see the same thing they saw when they pulled back the curtain to reveal the Wizard of Oz. D'Souza got what he wanted, a wider release of his film this weekend so he could sucker some more gullible believers like Flock into plunking down more money. The deadline for complying with those subpoenas is next week. I predict that True the Vote will file some bogus court proceedings asking for relief from the subpoenas for whatever reason.

So far, we've had over 60 court cases and administrative proceedings alleging fraud of one sort or another or various election violations. The people making these claims have not presented credible evidence to support any of those 60 claims. And that includes the three cases dismissed in Georgia this week.
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#112 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu May 19, 2022 9:40 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 4:07 pm
I wonder if he's interested in pursuing a defamation action against the filmmakers accusing him of wrongful conduct. --Bob
From Georgia Public Broadcasting:
One of the cases dismissed Tuesday stemmed from footage of a voter shown in the movie and on TV shows, such as Tucker Carlson Tonight on Fox News, whose personal information has been posted online and who has become a target of harassment.
Earlier this month OAN News had to issue a public retraction on their nightly broadcast in regard to defamatory allegations made against two Fulton County election workers.
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#113 Post by BackInTex » Fri May 20, 2022 6:36 am

Bob78164 wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 4:07 pm
BackInTex wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 3:52 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 3:00 pm
Well, I would assume that he had the names and registration addresses of all his family members when asked, just as Mrs. SSS and our daughter are registered at the same mailing address as me.

Of course, it's possible that he was living in a household with four other registered voters and he used that as cover to drop in harvested ballots for five strangers.
Just because he may have lived with 5 other registered voters does not mean the five ballots he was caught putting in the box were theirs.
What reason do you have to believe they weren't? Neither he (nor anyone else) is obligated to prove innocence. Anyone who thinks he was doing something wrong bears the burden of proving it.

I wonder if he's interested in pursuing a defamation action against the filmmakers accusing him of wrongful conduct. --Bob
I haven't seen the movie, yet, but supposedly each person identifed in the movie had been tracked to at least 10 separate drop boxes. He was captured on video once (as far as I understand it) and that once is what he was asked about (I assume), not the other 9+.
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#114 Post by earendel » Fri May 20, 2022 6:44 am

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 2:06 pm
2000 Mules will be in theaters around the country this weekend. If you had trouble finding it on Youtube, you could watch it in a local theater, and make up your own mind about whether the evidence is convincing or let others make that determination for you.
I'm sorry, but I'm not going to pay good money to watch this. I'd be more than happy to do so if it were free.
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#115 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Fri May 20, 2022 7:21 am

earendel wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 6:44 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 2:06 pm
2000 Mules will be in theaters around the country this weekend. If you had trouble finding it on Youtube, you could watch it in a local theater, and make up your own mind about whether the evidence is convincing or let others make that determination for you.
I'm sorry, but I'm not going to pay good money to watch this. I'd be more than happy to do so if it were free.
I have heard discussion that D'Souza is considering that some time in the future.
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#116 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Fri May 20, 2022 7:24 am

wbtravis007 wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 8:06 pm
If I had as much money as these people are making on this I’d bet it all against the proposition that we’re all going to see, once they “pull the rip chord,” that there is more to this than an opportunity to sucker a lot of people out of their money.

Course, I could be wrong. I guess I’m one who “someone “ considers to be too cowardly to watch, or has listened to somebody or another who has urged me not to watch it, or whatever.

Don’t know anything about it other than what I’ve seen here. But, I’d still make that bet. Doesn’t pass the smell test, for me.

Maybe they were smart enough to keep themselves out of court. Like Fox News.
If your smell test was in any way accurate and not specifically targeted, you would be sneezing uncontrollably.
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#117 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Fri May 20, 2022 7:33 am

Has True the Vote told law enforcement, the FBI, elected officials?

We did involve federal and state officials and law enforcement and are working with those who wish to act. Unfortunately, some are not willing to work with us which is why we are encouraging all Americans to take action in their state to ensure free and fair elections.

Why doesn’t 2000 Mules show the same person going to multiple drop boxes as claimed?

We do have video showing the same person at multiple drop boxes. Some of that footage was shown in the first trailer. It was taken out because the video is extremely poor quality.

We address this issue in the film. Most jurisdictions had no video or if they did, it was (illegally) destroyed. Of what does exist, 85% of it is bad; the camera poorly positioned, out of focus, the video compiled out of chronological sequence, inexplicably missing blocks of days and times.

This is why the geospatial evidence is the key.

One thing this exercise proved to us is that drop box surveillance video was never monitored, as voters expected it would be. Like so many other election processes, it was a false promise of security.

We will soon be releasing all of the raw video footage so America can see for itself. Hold the line patriots: we always keep our promises. #ripcord

What happens next? #Ripcord

We are now preparing the next phase of our project: pulling the #Ripcord!

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We will post all video and data as soon as possible. Everything must be reformatted, compressed, and organized for easier access. This is a priority for us, but it will take time. We appreciate your patience while we prepare and we share your excitement for what comes next!

If research isn’t your thing, that’s a-ok. This is just step one. There’s a lot more work to be done.

Please stay tuned. We’ll communicate via email. More information will follow.

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#118 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Fri May 20, 2022 7:39 am

I am a database programmer and I am hoping that the cellphone data, when they release it, is in a format that I can work on it and analyze it for myself.
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#119 Post by silverscreenselect » Fri May 20, 2022 7:39 am

BackInTex wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 6:36 am
I haven't seen the movie, yet, but supposedly each person identifed in the movie had been tracked to at least 10 separate drop boxes. He was captured on video once (as far as I understand it) and that once is what he was asked about (I assume), not the other 9+.
This so-called "tracking" seems to exist so far only in the minds of True the Vote and Dinesh d'Souza. They have not released the data on the 250 or so people they claim to have visited all these different drop boxes. That, of course, would allow investigators from the Board of Elections and the State Attorney General's office to examine and verify the information and follow up with the identified individuals. They identified this one voter based on his license tag, which was visible on the video showing him drop the ballots in the drop box. So far, True the Vote has not produced video of any individual casting votes in multiple locations.

It would seem easy to verify that if they identified me as being at the Sandy Springs branch library (where I dropped our ballots this time) at 3:00, the Alpharetta branch library at 4:00 and the Johns Creek library at 5:00, that they could examine the video of those branches at those times and catch me on video multiple times. But of course they're not going to produce this "proof" to the State Election Board next week because it doesn't exist. They will produce excuses, requests for extensions, and motions in opposition. Which is what everyone in the 60 other cases alleging election fraud has produced as they all got tossed out of court, including David Perdue's law suit last week, which the judge dismissed as "conjecture and paranoia."

And something that True the Vote or Flock or any of these ballot harvesting conspiracy theorists haven't addressed is where all these fake ballots come from. In Georgia, requests for absentee ballots must list the residential mailing address of the individual voter. So, if hundreds of ballot requests listed c/o Stacey Abrams HQ as their mailing address, that would be very easy to spot. And if these mysterious harvesters had such a sophisticated operation that they could produce these hundreds of fake ballots, why not just mail them in?

It's certainly possible that individual isolated cases of what Georgia calls ballot harvesting occurred, if, for example, a well-meaning volunteer at a senior center or church group agreed to take some ballots in. But that's nothing like what True the Vote alleges. And the ballots being "harvested" wouldn't be fake. They would be legal. And undoubtedly there were isolated instances of fraud like voters requesting ballots for deceased relatives. But those would be individual cases.
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#120 Post by silverscreenselect » Fri May 20, 2022 7:42 am

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 7:33 am
Has True the Vote told law enforcement, the FBI, elected officials?

We did involve federal and state officials and law enforcement and are working with those who wish to act. Unfortunately, some are not willing to work with us which is why we are encouraging all Americans to take action in their state to ensure free and fair elections.

Why doesn’t 2000 Mules show the same person going to multiple drop boxes as claimed?

We do have video showing the same person at multiple drop boxes. Some of that footage was shown in the first trailer. It was taken out because the video is extremely poor quality.

We address this issue in the film. Most jurisdictions had no video or if they did, it was (illegally) destroyed. Of what does exist, 85% of it is bad; the camera poorly positioned, out of focus, the video compiled out of chronological sequence, inexplicably missing blocks of days and times.

This is why the geospatial evidence is the key.

One thing this exercise proved to us is that drop box surveillance video was never monitored, as voters expected it would be. Like so many other election processes, it was a false promise of security.

We will soon be releasing all of the raw video footage so America can see for itself. Hold the line patriots: we always keep our promises. #ripcord

What happens next? #Ripcord

We are now preparing the next phase of our project: pulling the #Ripcord!

Since 2020, we’ve collected a tremendous amount of data and video, along with thousands of pages of documents from open records requests. Our plan is to release it all publicly for crowdsourced review and research. We’ve only analyzed the tip of the iceberg, and there’s far more that will be revealed with the public’s help.

We will post all video and data as soon as possible. Everything must be reformatted, compressed, and organized for easier access. This is a priority for us, but it will take time. We appreciate your patience while we prepare and we share your excitement for what comes next!

If research isn’t your thing, that’s a-ok. This is just step one. There’s a lot more work to be done.

Please stay tuned. We’ll communicate via email. More information will follow.

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Re: 2000 Mules

#121 Post by silverscreenselect » Fri May 20, 2022 7:45 am

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
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I am a database programmer and I am hoping that the cellphone data, when they release it, is in a format that I can work on it and analyze it for myself.
They could (and probably will) release a blank sheet of paper and you would analyze to "prove" voter fraud.
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Re: 2000 Mules

#122 Post by jarnon » Fri May 20, 2022 8:03 am

In my county (the third largest in Pennsylvania), there are just 11 drop boxes. In 2020, they were open during business hours only and monitored. The guards could and did stop voters from depositing multiple ballots. The scheme described in 2000 Mules had no chance of success. And why would anyone bother, since a voter or mule could just drop the ballots in the nearest mailbox?

In this week's primary election, they switched to 24-hour video surveillance. (Democrats complained that some voters felt intimidated by the guards.) You can be assured that the Republican state legislature is watching closely for any violation.

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Re: 2000 Mules

#123 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Fri May 20, 2022 2:09 pm

jarnon wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 8:03 am
In my county (the third largest in Pennsylvania), there are just 11 drop boxes. In 2020, they were open during business hours only and monitored. The guards could and did stop voters from depositing multiple ballots. The scheme described in 2000 Mules had no chance of success. And why would anyone bother, since a voter or mule could just drop the ballots in the nearest mailbox?

In this week's primary election, they switched to 24-hour video surveillance. (Democrats complained that some voters felt intimidated by the guards.) You can be assured that the Republican state legislature is watching closely for any violation.
Jarnon,
I don't really understand how any of you can credibly criticize something you have not even watched.

The mules weren't restricted to your county. It was pointed out that they in many cases went to multiple (at least 10) dropboxes in multiple counties and also visited at least 5 non profit organizations related to democrat causes. All had to happen in the same day. If they didn't meet that criteria, they weren't counted as a 'mule'. Most dropboxes are not on major driving thoroughfares. You have to get off the main roads to get to them. Even if the geophysical cell phone accuracy is +/- 100 feet, what are the chances that one phone would come within 100 feet of 10 dropboxes and 5 NPOs all in the same day?

All this is depending, I know, that they ain't lying. They are advertising RIPCORD with the movie, and have promised that their data will be released to the public as soon as they can compile it for public release. I have been convinced 95% by the evidence presented in the movie, and it is getting a wide audience, so I am pretty sure they are not lying about it. I will be convinced 99.9% when RIPCORD is released and it is what they say it will be. (I never believe anything related to politics 100%). If they don't follow through, they will lose an incredible amount of credibility and nothing anyone connected with this movie can do will ever get it back. So I don't believe they are just in it for the money.

They also pointed out that although these drop boxes were supposed to have been surveilled, most of them weren't, and many of the ones that might have been had their video scrubbed since the election (also in conflict with the rules) so they are not available.

So do yourself a favor and examine the evidence before you try and criticize it. Don't be a fool like my stalker.
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Re: 2000 Mules

#124 Post by Bob Juch » Fri May 20, 2022 2:13 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 2:09 pm
jarnon wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 8:03 am
In my county (the third largest in Pennsylvania), there are just 11 drop boxes. In 2020, they were open during business hours only and monitored. The guards could and did stop voters from depositing multiple ballots. The scheme described in 2000 Mules had no chance of success. And why would anyone bother, since a voter or mule could just drop the ballots in the nearest mailbox?

In this week's primary election, they switched to 24-hour video surveillance. (Democrats complained that some voters felt intimidated by the guards.) You can be assured that the Republican state legislature is watching closely for any violation.
Jarnon,
I don't really understand how any of you can credibly criticize something you have not even watched.

The mules weren't restricted to your county. It was pointed out that they in many cases went to multiple (at least 10) dropboxes in multiple counties and also visited at least 5 non profit organizations related to democrat causes. All had to happen in the same day. If they didn't meet that criteria, they weren't counted as a 'mule'. Most dropboxes are not on major driving thoroughfares. You have to get off the main roads to get to them. Even if the geophysical cell phone accuracy is +/- 100 feet, what are the chances that one phone would come within 100 feet of 10 dropboxes and 5 NPOs all in the same day?

They also pointed out that although these drop boxes were supposed to have been surveilled, most of them weren't, and many of the ones that might have been had their video scrubbed since the election (also in conflict with the rules) so they are not available.

So do yourself a favor and examine the evidence before you try and criticize it. Don't be a fool like my stalker.
I'd love to examine the evidence. Where is it?
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Re: 2000 Mules

#125 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Fri May 20, 2022 2:18 pm

Bob Juch wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 2:13 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 2:09 pm
jarnon wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 8:03 am
In my county (the third largest in Pennsylvania), there are just 11 drop boxes. In 2020, they were open during business hours only and monitored. The guards could and did stop voters from depositing multiple ballots. The scheme described in 2000 Mules had no chance of success. And why would anyone bother, since a voter or mule could just drop the ballots in the nearest mailbox?

In this week's primary election, they switched to 24-hour video surveillance. (Democrats complained that some voters felt intimidated by the guards.) You can be assured that the Republican state legislature is watching closely for any violation.
Jarnon,
I don't really understand how any of you can credibly criticize something you have not even watched.

The mules weren't restricted to your county. It was pointed out that they in many cases went to multiple (at least 10) dropboxes in multiple counties and also visited at least 5 non profit organizations related to democrat causes. All had to happen in the same day. If they didn't meet that criteria, they weren't counted as a 'mule'. Most dropboxes are not on major driving thoroughfares. You have to get off the main roads to get to them. Even if the geophysical cell phone accuracy is +/- 100 feet, what are the chances that one phone would come within 100 feet of 10 dropboxes and 5 NPOs all in the same day?

They also pointed out that although these drop boxes were supposed to have been surveilled, most of them weren't, and many of the ones that might have been had their video scrubbed since the election (also in conflict with the rules) so they are not available.

So do yourself a favor and examine the evidence before you try and criticize it. Don't be a fool like my stalker.
I'd love to examine the evidence. Where is it?
Watch the movie. Lots of evidence there. And lots of pictures too!
There will also be some videos for you in RIPCORD too. Just be patient. Now run along...
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