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On Fuel Prices and the Farm
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:03 pm
by Spock
When this first started, Bob#'s asked me if I would be willing to pay a little higher gas price to help beat Putin. Well, it is not quite that simple here in Flyoverland.
I can't get by with filling my gas tank every 10 days and calling it good.
In a normal year, we dance around the 6 figure mark for fuel bills and related, so it doesn't take much of an increase to start costing me 10K and multiples of such.
So, no, I am not happily willing to pay more for fuel especially when this admin has done everything possible to shut down domestic oil and gas production.
We can quibble about details, but does anyone doubt that Bob#s would be absolutely ecstatic if there were no domestic oil and gas production? Unfortunately, it is people of his ilk running energy policy in this admin.
Re: On Fuel Prices and the Farm
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:53 pm
by Bob78164
Spock wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:03 pm
So, no, I am not happily willing to pay more for fuel especially when this admin has done everything possible to shut down domestic oil and gas production.
Got it. You're willing to help Ukraine in its battle right up until the moment that battle inconveniences you personally. Then it's every man for himself.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised. That's exactly how you handled the COVID vaccine.
And by the way, the Biden Administration has approved MORE drilling permits on federal land than Donny had by this point in his Administration. The steps the Biden Administration has taken with regard to leasing won't have any impact on production for years because it takes years to get from issuing the lease to actual production. --Bob
Re: On Fuel Prices and the Farm
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:22 pm
by BackInTex
Bob78164 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:53 pm
Spock wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:03 pm
So, no, I am not happily willing to pay more for fuel especially when this admin has done everything possible to shut down domestic oil and gas production.
Got it. You're willing to help Ukraine in its battle right up until the moment that battle inconveniences you personally. Then it's every man for himself.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised. That's exactly how you handled the COVID vaccine.
And by the way, the Biden Administration has approved MORE
drilling permits on federal land than Donny had by this point in his Administration. The steps the Biden Administration has taken with regard to
leasing won't have any impact on production for years because it takes years to get from issuing the lease to actual production. --Bob
You're mixing apples and oranges. The number of drilling permit requests are a function of leases sold from prior years, current demand and infrastructure in place to handle the new production. It would be interesting to see the number of drilling requests submitted to the government over the past 8 or so years with a shifted line of acres leased (not number of leases which is really an irrelevant number).
Re: On Fuel Prices and the Farm
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:09 pm
by Bob78164
BackInTex wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:22 pm
Bob78164 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:53 pm
Spock wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:03 pm
So, no, I am not happily willing to pay more for fuel especially when this admin has done everything possible to shut down domestic oil and gas production.
Got it. You're willing to help Ukraine in its battle right up until the moment that battle inconveniences you personally. Then it's every man for himself.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised. That's exactly how you handled the COVID vaccine.
And by the way, the Biden Administration has approved MORE
drilling permits on federal land than Donny had by this point in his Administration. The steps the Biden Administration has taken with regard to
leasing won't have any impact on production for years because it takes years to get from issuing the lease to actual production. --Bob
You're mixing apples and oranges. The number of drilling permit requests are a function of leases sold from prior years, current demand and infrastructure in place to handle the new production. It would be interesting to see the number of drilling requests submitted to the government over the past 8 or so years with a shifted line of acres leased (not number of leases which is really an irrelevant number).
I'm not mixing apples and oranges. Spock was. I'm pointing out that the Biden Administration's leasing actions are not having any effect on current supply, which is what Spock was complaining about. The Biden Administration's actions that ARE having an effect on current supply are making supply available at a faster pace than Donny did.
In short, as usual, Spock doesn't know what he's talking about, but that doesn't stop him from spouting right-wing talking points anyway. --Bob
Re: On Fuel Prices and the Farm
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:11 pm
by Bob Juch
The cost of my electric power has gone up 0% since the war started. It comes 100% from wind farms.
Re: On Fuel Prices and the Farm
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:11 pm
by BackInTex
Bob78164 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:09 pm
The Biden Administration's actions that ARE having an effect on current supply are making supply available at a faster pace than Donny did.
In short, as usual, Spock doesn't know what he's talking about, but that doesn't stop him from spouting right-wing talking points anyway. --Bob
Those two lines together are funny. I don't care who you are.
Re: On Fuel Prices and the Farm
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:27 pm
by BackInTex
BackInTex wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:11 pm
Bob78164 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:09 pm
The Biden Administration's actions that ARE having an effect on current supply are making supply available at a faster pace than Donny did.
In short, as usual, Spock doesn't know what he's talking about, but that doesn't stop him from spouting right-wing talking points anyway. --Bob
Those two lines together are funny. I don't care who you are.
Thought I'd do a little real analysis.
3 month average crude oil production at the end of Jan 2017 was 9.06 million barrels a day
3 month average crude oil production at the end of Dec 2017 was 10.12 million barrels a day....an 11.75% increase - President Trump's 1st year
3 month average crude oil production at the end of Jan 2021 was 11.33 million barrels a day
3 month average crude oil production at the end of Dec 2021 was 11.88 million barrels a day....an 4.85% increase - President Biden's 1st year
11.75% increase in production the 1st year in office vs 4.85% increase. These numbers don't support Bob's claim.
Check the numbers out yourself
Re: On Fuel Prices and the Farm
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:36 pm
by silverscreenselect
BackInTex wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:27 pm
Thought I'd do a little real analysis.
3 month average crude oil production at the end of Jan 2017 was 9.06 million barrels a day
3 month average crude oil production at the end of Dec 2017 was 10.12 million barrels a day....an 11.75% increase - President Trump's 1st year
3 month average crude oil production at the end of Jan 2021 was 11.33 million barrels a day
3 month average crude oil production at the end of Dec 2021 was 11.88 million barrels a day....an 4.85% increase - President Biden's 1st year
11.75% increase in production the 1st year in office vs 4.85% increase. These numbers don't support Bob's claim.
Check the numbers out yourself
I'm not sure where you got these figures, so I'm going to give some one month statistics.
Crude oil production
January 2020 3.96 million
February 2020 3.71 million
March 2020 3.97 million
April 2020 3.57 million
May 2020 3.01 million
The figures go up slowly since that time until they were 3.44 million in December and 3.43 million in January 2021 with gradual slow increases since then.
Gee, I wonder what could have happened in the world's economy in the spring of 2020 that would cause such a drop in production? Perhaps a lot less demand with people driving less and personnel cutbacks as well?
This has nothing to do with with the first year of Biden vs. Trump (you didn't do a comparison of Trump's last year to Biden's first for pretty obvious reasons) as much as changing world economic conditions due to the pandemic.
Reuters 1/12/21 wrote:Oil and gas firms have cut jobs to survive what is expected to be a long stretch of weak demand. Rystad Energy consultancy said in October more than 400,000 industry jobs had been cut up to that point of 2020, half of them in the United States, where there is a heavy focus on costly shale oil output. "Based on our knowledge and insight into the shale market in the United States, this was one of the hardest hit areas in the world for the pandemic," Airswift Chief Executive Janette Marx told Reuters.
Re: On Fuel Prices and the Farm
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:56 pm
by silverscreenselect
In the meantime, today marks the first day that the sanctions are really hitting the average Russian. McDonalds, Starbucks, and Coca-cola are all pulling out of Russia.
Re: On Fuel Prices and the Farm
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:47 pm
by BackInTex
silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:36 pm
BackInTex wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:27 pm
Thought I'd do a little real analysis.
3 month average crude oil production at the end of Jan 2017 was 9.06 million barrels a day
3 month average crude oil production at the end of Dec 2017 was 10.12 million barrels a day....an 11.75% increase - President Trump's 1st year
3 month average crude oil production at the end of Jan 2021 was 11.33 million barrels a day
3 month average crude oil production at the end of Dec 2021 was 11.88 million barrels a day....an 4.85% increase - President Biden's 1st year
11.75% increase in production the 1st year in office vs 4.85% increase. These numbers don't support Bob's claim.
Check the numbers out yourself
I'm not sure where you got these figures, so I'm going to give some one month statistics.
Crude oil production
January 2020 3.96 million
February 2020 3.71 million
March 2020 3.97 million
April 2020 3.57 million
May 2020 3.01 million
The figures go up slowly since that time until they were 3.44 million in December and 3.43 million in January 2021 with gradual slow increases since then.
Gee, I wonder what could have happened in the world's economy in the spring of 2020 that would cause such a drop in production? Perhaps a lot less demand with people driving less and personnel cutbacks as well?
This has nothing to do with with the first year of Biden vs. Trump (you didn't do a comparison of Trump's last year to Biden's first for pretty obvious reasons) as much as changing world economic conditions due to the pandemic.
Reuters 1/12/21 wrote:Oil and gas firms have cut jobs to survive what is expected to be a long stretch of weak demand. Rystad Energy consultancy said in October more than 400,000 industry jobs had been cut up to that point of 2020, half of them in the United States, where there is a heavy focus on costly shale oil output. "Based on our knowledge and insight into the shale market in the United States, this was one of the hardest hit areas in the world for the pandemic," Airswift Chief Executive Janette Marx told Reuters.
Not sure where I got the figures? I provided a damn link!
It has EVERYTHING to do with Biden's 1st year vs. Trump's 1st year ("The Biden Administration's actions that ARE having an effect on current supply are making supply available at a faster pace than Donny did." Bob#)
I'm not even sure what you are trying to show with the numbers you are showing.
Re: On Fuel Prices and the Farm
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 6:41 pm
by flockofseagulls104
BackInTex wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:47 pm
silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:36 pm
BackInTex wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:27 pm
Thought I'd do a little real analysis.
3 month average crude oil production at the end of Jan 2017 was 9.06 million barrels a day
3 month average crude oil production at the end of Dec 2017 was 10.12 million barrels a day....an 11.75% increase - President Trump's 1st year
3 month average crude oil production at the end of Jan 2021 was 11.33 million barrels a day
3 month average crude oil production at the end of Dec 2021 was 11.88 million barrels a day....an 4.85% increase - President Biden's 1st year
11.75% increase in production the 1st year in office vs 4.85% increase. These numbers don't support Bob's claim.
Check the numbers out yourself
I'm not sure where you got these figures, so I'm going to give some one month statistics.
Crude oil production
January 2020 3.96 million
February 2020 3.71 million
March 2020 3.97 million
April 2020 3.57 million
May 2020 3.01 million
The figures go up slowly since that time until they were 3.44 million in December and 3.43 million in January 2021 with gradual slow increases since then.
Gee, I wonder what could have happened in the world's economy in the spring of 2020 that would cause such a drop in production? Perhaps a lot less demand with people driving less and personnel cutbacks as well?
This has nothing to do with with the first year of Biden vs. Trump (you didn't do a comparison of Trump's last year to Biden's first for pretty obvious reasons) as much as changing world economic conditions due to the pandemic.
Reuters 1/12/21 wrote:Oil and gas firms have cut jobs to survive what is expected to be a long stretch of weak demand. Rystad Energy consultancy said in October more than 400,000 industry jobs had been cut up to that point of 2020, half of them in the United States, where there is a heavy focus on costly shale oil output. "Based on our knowledge and insight into the shale market in the United States, this was one of the hardest hit areas in the world for the pandemic," Airswift Chief Executive Janette Marx told Reuters.
Not sure where I got the figures? I provided a damn link!
It has EVERYTHING to do with Biden's 1st year vs. Trump's 1st year ("The Biden Administration's actions that ARE having an effect on current supply are making supply available at a faster pace than Donny did." Bob#)
I'm not even sure what you are trying to show with the numbers you are showing.
He's just giving you the first numbers he found that might contradict you. But don't worry, they come from a non-biased expert source because he found them. But he doesn't really need them, you know, because he's an expert in whatever this field is and he knows what is what, and more importantly, you don't.
Spock was talking about how fuel prices were affecting non above-average lawyers, and he did give some credit to the current administration's policies for the problem.
But immediately bob and stalker switched the focus to GUESS WHO?
TDS strikes again.
Just to add my own numbers from an assuredly right-wing source.
https://www.gasbuddy.com/charts
Notice the big dip in gas prices in mid 2019? Just coincidentally, that's about the time that the Keystone Pipeline got through all the legal hurdles set up by the 'progressives' and work was allowed to continue on it. It started it's rise (which has not since abated, and will most assuredly continue at an increasing rate) in spring of 2020 when the current administration got more judges to block it. But that's all just a coincidence. Stalker will find someone who will prove it to us. And maybe, if he's lucky, he can find someone that can in some way blame it on Trump!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Pipeline
(Wikipedia just officially became a right-wing source because I just cited it).
Re: On Fuel Prices and the Farm
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:05 pm
by Bob78164
BackInTex wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:27 pm
BackInTex wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:11 pm
Bob78164 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:09 pm
The Biden Administration's actions that ARE having an effect on current supply are making supply available at a faster pace than Donny did.
In short, as usual, Spock doesn't know what he's talking about, but that doesn't stop him from spouting right-wing talking points anyway. --Bob
Those two lines together are funny. I don't care who you are.
Thought I'd do a little real analysis.
3 month average crude oil production at the end of Jan 2017 was 9.06 million barrels a day
3 month average crude oil production at the end of Dec 2017 was 10.12 million barrels a day....an 11.75% increase - President Trump's 1st year
3 month average crude oil production at the end of Jan 2021 was 11.33 million barrels a day
3 month average crude oil production at the end of Dec 2021 was 11.88 million barrels a day....an 4.85% increase - President Biden's 1st year
11.75% increase in production the 1st year in office vs 4.85% increase. These numbers don't support Bob's claim.
Check the numbers out yourself
But these numbers aren’t meaningful unless you tie them to the Administrations’ respective actions. As you know, relatively little production occurs on federal land, which is all the Administration can control. And President Biden approved drilling permits on that land at a faster pace than Donny did. So President Biden has authorized production on federal land more quickly than Donny did. —Bob
Re: On Fuel Prices and the Farm
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:40 pm
by flockofseagulls104
Bob78164 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:05 pm
BackInTex wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:27 pm
BackInTex wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:11 pm
Those two lines together are funny. I don't care who you are.
Thought I'd do a little real analysis.
3 month average crude oil production at the end of Jan 2017 was 9.06 million barrels a day
3 month average crude oil production at the end of Dec 2017 was 10.12 million barrels a day....an 11.75% increase - President Trump's 1st year
3 month average crude oil production at the end of Jan 2021 was 11.33 million barrels a day
3 month average crude oil production at the end of Dec 2021 was 11.88 million barrels a day....an 4.85% increase - President Biden's 1st year
11.75% increase in production the 1st year in office vs 4.85% increase. These numbers don't support Bob's claim.
Check the numbers out yourself
But these numbers aren’t meaningful unless you tie them to the Administrations’ respective actions. As you know, relatively little production occurs on federal land, which is all the Administration can control. And President Biden approved drilling permits on that land at a faster pace than Donny did. So President Biden has authorized production on federal land more quickly than Donny did. —Bob
Maybe so, bob. But we all know that Biden, from his first day in office, undid everything that was accomplished in the previous 4 years to help us become energy independent and to clear the redundant and burdensome overregulation of the oil industry. The swamp must be protected. But we can conveniently ignore that because you say he has authorized production on federal land more quickly than Donny did.
https://americansforprosperity.org/afp- ... es-34/amp/
Re: On Fuel Prices and the Farm
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:18 pm
by silverscreenselect
BackInTex wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:47 pm
Not sure where I got the figures? I provided a damn link!
It has EVERYTHING to do with Biden's 1st year vs. Trump's 1st year ("The Biden Administration's actions that ARE having an effect on current supply are making supply available at a faster pace than Donny did." Bob#)
I'm not even sure what you are trying to show with the numbers you are showing.
I'm not sure where you got the three month averages from, so I took one-month figures. You attempted to show that oil production went up substantially more in Trump's first year than in Biden's.
What I did was point out that there was a huge external factor that affected oil production, namely the pandemic, which caused production to drop by nearly 25% in two months. I don't blame that on any of Trump's policies; it happened because of the pandemic. But the recovery from the pandemic has been slow, both in terms of reduced demand and reduced labor forces. So it's not fair to compare post-pandemic recovery figures to figures in normal economic times in 2017.
Re: On Fuel Prices and the Farm
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:23 pm
by silverscreenselect
flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 6:41 pm
He's just giving you the first numbers he found that might contradict you. But don't worry, they come from a non-biased expert source because he found them. But he doesn't really need them, you know, because he's an expert in whatever this field is and he knows what is what, and more importantly, you don't.
Spock was talking about how fuel prices were affecting non above-average lawyers, and he did give some credit to the current administration's policies for the problem.
But immediately bob and stalker switched the focus to GUESS WHO?
TDS strikes again.
There's nothing about Trump derangement syndrome here except in your screaming fits. BiT mentioned oil production figures under Trump and Biden and I responded to that. I wasn't blaming anything Trump did. I just pointed out that there were extenuating factors so that BiT's comparison was not relevant here. The only derangement is your case of SSS-derangement syndrome which causes you to froth at the mouth every time I make a comment and then totally misread what I was saying and replying to so that you can shout out more ridiculously bad attempts at sarcasm in an attempt to feel good about yourself.
By the way, I do appreciate the comment about my pop culture posts.
Re: On Fuel Prices and the Farm
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:29 pm
by flockofseagulls104
Not one but 2 answers from the stalker to a post addressed to bob. The mob must protect each other.
I do hope he took my suggestion. I may be ignorant, but I am no slut....
Re: On Fuel Prices and the Farm
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:39 pm
by silverscreenselect
flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:29 pm
Not one but 2 answers from the stalker to a post addressed to bob. The mob must protect each other.
I do hope he took my suggestion. I may be ignorant, but I am no slut....
Flock:
If you want to have your own private chat with Bob, send him a private message. Otherwise, anything that's posted here is fair game for comment by everybody.
Re: On Fuel Prices and the Farm
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:00 am
by BackInTex
silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:18 pm
BackInTex wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:47 pm
Not sure where I got the figures? I provided a damn link!
It has EVERYTHING to do with Biden's 1st year vs. Trump's 1st year ("The Biden Administration's actions that ARE having an effect on current supply are making supply available at a faster pace than Donny did." Bob#)
I'm not even sure what you are trying to show with the numbers you are showing.
I'm not sure where you got the three month averages from, so I took one-month figures. You attempted to show that oil production went up substantially more in Trump's first year than in Biden's.
What I did was point out that there was a huge external factor that affected oil production, namely the pandemic, which caused production to drop by nearly 25% in two months. I don't blame that on any of Trump's policies; it happened because of the pandemic. But the recovery from the pandemic has been slow, both in terms of reduced demand and reduced labor forces. So it's not fair to compare post-pandemic recovery figures to figures in normal economic times in 2017.
From the link that provided monthly numbers. I added the reported month + the previous month + plus the month before that, then I took that total and divided by 3. I really didn't think I'd have to explain that.
And I wasn't qualifying anything due to pandemic, economy, etc. I was just refuting the claim that production has increased faster in Biden's first year than in Trumps. That was a completely false statement. I don't care the reasoning. I'm tired of your side's gaslighting crap. You and the Bobs throw out false shit and hope some sticks in folk's mind.
Re: On Fuel Prices and the Farm
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:17 am
by Bob78164
BackInTex wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:47 pm
And I wasn't qualifying anything due to pandemic, economy, etc. I was just refuting the claim that production has increased faster in Biden's first year than in Trumps. That was a completely false statement. I don't care the reasoning. I'm tired of your side's gaslighting crap. You and the Bobs throw out false shit and hope some sticks in folk's mind.
Reread what I wrote. That’s not what I claimed. I claimed that President Biden did more than Donny to increase near-term production because President Biden is approving drilling permits at a faster pace than Donny did. As we both know, production on private land that is not controlled by the federal government makes up the bulk of U.S. oil production. —Bob
Re: On Fuel Prices and the Farm
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:28 am
by flockofseagulls104
Bob78164 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:17 am
BackInTex wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:47 pm
And I wasn't qualifying anything due to pandemic, economy, etc. I was just refuting the claim that production has increased faster in Biden's first year than in Trumps. That was a completely false statement. I don't care the reasoning. I'm tired of your side's gaslighting crap. You and the Bobs throw out false shit and hope some sticks in folk's mind.
Reread what I wrote. That’s not what I claimed. I claimed that President Biden did more than Donny to increase near-term production because President Biden is approving drilling permits at a faster pace than Donny did. As we both know, production on private land that is not controlled by the federal government makes up the bulk of U.S. oil production. —Bob
I won't say re-read what I wrote, because I am confident you didn't read it at all. Your claim is moot because he has made it more difficult and more expensive for oil production by unilaterally and indiscriminately voiding all the progress that had been made in reducing redundant and unnecessarily burdensome regulations on oil production. I don't care if he signs an executive order approving DRILL AT WILL on federal lands. He has made it economically and legally painful to produce oil in the US, simply because he and his backers hated Trump.
Re: On Fuel Prices and the Farm
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 1:39 pm
by Bob78164
flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:28 am
[President Biden] has made it economically and legally painful to produce oil in the US, simply because he and his backers hated Trump.
Really? Point to specific actions you think President Biden has taken to support your claim. I pointed to specific actions he took that support my claim. —Bob
Re: On Fuel Prices and the Farm
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 1:54 pm
by flockofseagulls104
Bob78164 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 1:39 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:28 am
[President Biden] has made it economically and legally painful to produce oil in the US, simply because he and his backers hated Trump.
Really? Point to specific actions you think President Biden has taken to support your claim. I pointed to specific actions he took that support my claim. —Bob
You know he did bob. He was proud of it. The first thing he did was unilaterally kill the Keystone XL Pipeline. But he then went on to do the whole shmear, like he promised idiots like you. I provided a link for you to check it out. Of course, you ignored it. Here's one link in that article that pertains specifically to your challenge, but there are many more:
https://www.federalregister.gov/documen ... ate-crisis
(See the last paragraph of Section 1 and the entirety of Section 2.)
That link, assuming you are not scared to click on it because your computer monitor might get contaminated by displaying content from a conservative-leaning organization, contains several other links, including a link to the actual legislation that was passed and signed into law that reinstates a long list of swamp-friendly bullshit. It was one of the first things Birden did. The list of regulations, studies, task groups and investigations it calls for is truly frightening to anyone who does not dwell in the swamp.
bob, I thought you were off to Reno. Assuming you are still going and it is not part of your sacrifices to forego your trip, while you are there, dedicate one of your bridge hands to the people of Ukraine. It will, I'm sure, be a comfort to both the Ukrainian people and the people of the US who have to make hard decisions on how to feed their children.
Sorry for the sarcasm, but you show yourself to be an elitist, ultra partisan, egghead snob every time you post here. You really missed your calling. You should be one of those B List Hollywood actors that lectures everyone else about morality. At least IMHO.
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This post is now officially open for the stalker to insult me in some form or another, and for the mob to change the subject. I expect no direct answer from bob, of course.
Re: On Fuel Prices and the Farm
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:56 pm
by themanintheseersuckersuit
Bob Juch wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:11 pm
The cost of my electric power has gone up 0% since the war started. It comes 100% from wind farms.
The price you pay not the cost
Re: On Fuel Prices and the Farm
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:15 pm
by Bob Juch
Today the price of oil is down, the stock markets are up. Let's go, Joe!
Re: On Fuel Prices and the Farm
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:13 pm
by Bob Juch
flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 1:54 pm
Bob78164 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 1:39 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:28 am
[President Biden] has made it economically and legally painful to produce oil in the US, simply because he and his backers hated Trump.
Really? Point to specific actions you think President Biden has taken to support your claim. I pointed to specific actions he took that support my claim. —Bob
You know he did bob. He was proud of it. The first thing he did was unilaterally kill the Keystone XL Pipeline. But he then went on to do the whole shmear, like he promised idiots like you. I provided a link for you to check it out. Of course, you ignored it. Here's one link in that article that pertains specifically to your challenge, but there are many more:
https://www.federalregister.gov/documen ... ate-crisis
(See the last paragraph of Section 1 and the entirety of Section 2.)
That link, assuming you are not scared to click on it because your computer monitor might get contaminated by displaying content from a conservative-leaning organization, contains several other links, including a link to the actual legislation that was passed and signed into law that reinstates a long list of swamp-friendly bullshit. It was one of the first things Birden did. The list of regulations, studies, task groups and investigations it calls for is truly frightening to anyone who does not dwell in the swamp.
bob, I thought you were off to Reno. Assuming you are still going and it is not part of your sacrifices to forego your trip, while you are there, dedicate one of your bridge hands to the people of Ukraine. It will, I'm sure, be a comfort to both the Ukrainian people and the people of the US who have to make hard decisions on how to feed their children.
Sorry for the sarcasm, but you show yourself to be an elitist, ultra partisan, egghead snob every time you post here. You really missed your calling. You should be one of those B List Hollywood actors that lectures everyone else about morality. At least IMHO.
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This post is now officially open for the stalker to insult me in some form or another, and for the mob to change the subject. I expect no direct answer from bob, of course.
You do realize that not one drop of oil from the XL pipeline was going to stay in the U.S., right?