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This Is Definitely Nothing
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:13 pm
by Spock
Pfizer Vaccine Becomes DNA in Liver Cells. (In-vitro Swedish Study)
https://www.mdpi.com/1467-3045/44/3/73
A Swedish study that says contrary, to all assertions by TPTB, that the vaccines become DNA in liver cells.
I am afraid that the consequences of rashly vaccinating our youth with experimental vaccines for a disease that did not affect them will be with us for decades and maybe even into the next generations.
Re: This Is Definitely Nothing
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:28 pm
by Beebs52
I will ask my son, who makes vaccines, what he thinks.
Re: This Is Definitely Nothing
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 10:43 pm
by flockofseagulls104
Too many cartoons in it.
Re: This Is Definitely Nothing
Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 1:53 am
by silverscreenselect
This is definitely beyond my area of expertise, but I will note that the Swedish study has not been peer reviewed, and there is a lengthy rebuttal here (which also discusses the latest go-around about the artificially engineered virust theory). By the way, it's got a nifty cartoon from 200 years ago about how the smallpox vaccine would turn people into cowlike creatures.
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-re ... -lab-leak/
Here's the summary from David Gorski, who wrote the articles. You can see his credentials in the link:
Their science covers a highly artificial case and is being misrepresented by COVID-19 disinformation spreaders to spread fear of COVID-19 vaccines. As for the rest, yes, the study shows that reverse transcription probably happened in a highly specific and engineered situation in one cancer cell line using high concentrations of vaccine, but it was never shown that the fragment was actually ever integrated into the genome. I also should have mentioned that, if SARS-CoV-2 really could undergo reverse transcription and integrate into the genome, that would be all the more reason to get vaccinated.
I'm not ready to accept this one article as gospel any more than I'm ready to accept the study Spock is excited about. But the right-wing sites have jumped all over it without an attempt to get some more learned analysis.
Re: This Is Definitely Nothing
Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:43 am
by Weyoun
I worked with Huh7 as a med student, in an HIV lab actually.
It’s a cancer cell line, something not in your own body right now, I hope, and it’s designed to do things like this. It way overproduces the dormant LINE-1.
So it’s a really wacky cell line, not like anything in your body.
As the article by SSS suggests, their paper doesn’t even show that the whole spike protein genome gets incorporated into these cells.
And it certainly doesn’t show that it would be otherwise incorporated in your normal chromosomal DNA, since very little of your body cells of any kind have reverse transcriptase potential
And here’s a larger point. Let’s say that everything bad this article suggested did happen. Let’s say that your body’s cells occasionally made spike proteins. Then what?
The scenario I would think of is, probably nothing. However, if your body was constantly producing an antigen that generated an immune response, you would be an inflammatory state, having fevers and muscle legs and joint pain and all the other stuff you get after getting a vaccine, but constantly.
That of course isn’t happening with this vaccine.
Interesting article though.