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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:12 pm
My guess is that a whole lot of people who were around in 1967 don't have perfect recall of what they were doing on which days, including me. Biden's comments were off-the-cuff remarks at a holiday party.
This is one of Biden's canned stories that he retells often. This time he confused the Six Day War with the Yom Kippur War. I bet many in the audience noticed the error. Here's an account of the actual meeting:silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:46 pmMy guess is that a whole lot of people who were around in 1967 don't have perfect recall of what they were doing on which days, including me. Biden's comments were off-the-cuff remarks at a holiday party.
Careful, dude, you're a little long in the tooth for such contortions.silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:46 pmMy guess is that a whole lot of people who were around in 1967 don't have perfect recall of what they were doing on which days, including me. Biden's comments were off-the-cuff remarks at a holiday party.
Whatever you say-"Mr. Last Night in Sweden."Bob78164 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:22 pmI'm really not sure of the point here.
Are you saying that for some reason President Biden deliberately lied about the date on which this meeting happened and that's evidence that we shouldn't trust him? Are you saying that getting the date wrong in this context indicates some other reason that we shouldn't trust him? (If it's the latter, there will be little difficulty finding countless comparable or worse examples applicable to many people in public life, undoubtedly including some whom you respect and admire.)
Why should anyone care about this, other than to score points in a meaningless game of gotcha? --Bob
Yes, why on earth discuss the fact that our President is a dementia-ridden tool? Keep those blinders firmly in placeBob78164 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:22 pmI'm really not sure of the point here.
Are you saying that for some reason President Biden deliberately lied about the date on which this meeting happened and that's evidence that we shouldn't trust him? Are you saying that getting the date wrong in this context indicates some other reason that we shouldn't trust him? (If it's the latter, there will be little difficulty finding countless comparable or worse examples applicable to many people in public life, undoubtedly including some whom you respect and admire.)
Why should anyone care about this, other than to score points in a meaningless game of gotcha? --Bob
President Biden has been making mistakes like that for decades. He's no more a dementia-ridden fool than you are. Given the logic you're employing here, probably less.tlynn78 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:53 pmYes, why on earth discuss the fact that our President is a dementia-ridden tool? Keep those blinders firmly in placeBob78164 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:22 pmI'm really not sure of the point here.
Are you saying that for some reason President Biden deliberately lied about the date on which this meeting happened and that's evidence that we shouldn't trust him? Are you saying that getting the date wrong in this context indicates some other reason that we shouldn't trust him? (If it's the latter, there will be little difficulty finding countless comparable or worse examples applicable to many people in public life, undoubtedly including some whom you respect and admire.)
Why should anyone care about this, other than to score points in a meaningless game of gotcha? --Bob
Biden's comments were made at a holiday party and were a story he's told often before. Speaking as someone who's not that much younger than Biden (or Trump), I can say that my memory of dates and events back then and what I did on them is somewhat fuzzy and when I tell stories about that time, they may have inaccuracies if someone were to fact check them they way Republicans seem to want to do with Biden. If Biden actually thought that the events with Meir occurred on the eve of the Six Day War instead of the Yom Kuppur War (as opposed to this being a slip of the tongue as he rattled off a story), then it's the type of mistaken memory that's quite common, even for people who are a lot younger than Biden. (Look at all the cases of mistaken identity testimony at criminal trials.) That's not dementia, that's the normal aging process and how it affects memory in everyone who gets to that age.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 2:28 amPresident Biden has been making mistakes like that for decades. He's no more a dementia-ridden fool than you are. Given the logic you're employing here, probably less.
You just don't like President Biden, so you're willing to say ugly things about him given the flimsiest of excuses. That says much more about you than it does about President Biden.
Alas, in this respect you're all too typical of Republican elected officials. Which is why the Republican Party needs to be politically bulldozed until the national party has suffered the same fate it's already suffered in California. Perhaps a sane conservative party will arise from its ashes. --Bob
I have the same problem with remembering the wrong decade now that I'm an old fart.silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:40 amBiden's comments were made at a holiday party and were a story he's told often before. Speaking as someone who's not that much younger than Biden (or Trump), I can say that my memory of dates and events back then and what I did on them is somewhat fuzzy and when I tell stories about that time, they may have inaccuracies if someone were to fact check them they way Republicans seem to want to do with Biden. If Biden actually thought that the events with Meir occurred on the eve of the Six Day War instead of the Yom Kuppur War (as opposed to this being a slip of the tongue as he rattled off a story), then it's the type of mistaken memory that's quite common, even for people who are a lot younger than Biden. (Look at all the cases of mistaken identity testimony at criminal trials.) That's not dementia, that's the normal aging process and how it affects memory in everyone who gets to that age.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 2:28 amPresident Biden has been making mistakes like that for decades. He's no more a dementia-ridden fool than you are. Given the logic you're employing here, probably less.
You just don't like President Biden, so you're willing to say ugly things about him given the flimsiest of excuses. That says much more about you than it does about President Biden.
Alas, in this respect you're all too typical of Republican elected officials. Which is why the Republican Party needs to be politically bulldozed until the national party has suffered the same fate it's already suffered in California. Perhaps a sane conservative party will arise from its ashes. --Bob
It's not like he went on national TV and claimed that passing a memory test that's given to check for dementia is a sign that he's more intelligent than 99% of the public.
I don't think you're remembering that claim correctly. Please cite.silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:40 amIt's not like he went on national TV and claimed that passing a memory test that's given to check for dementia is a sign that he's more intelligent than 99% of the public.
I am not hearing racism here. If you are referring to the cocaine comment, that would apply to any reporter asking the question.Estonut wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:32 amI don't think you're remembering that claim correctly. Please cite.silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:40 amIt's not like he went on national TV and claimed that passing a memory test that's given to check for dementia is a sign that he's more intelligent than 99% of the public.
I guess you've also forgotten Biden's sharp-as-a-tack, non-racist response "hitting back" when asked if he has taken a cognitive test:
I'm forward looking to your response.
You're right as to the specifics. This came up in the interview with Chris Wallace.Estonut wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:32 amI don't think you're remembering that claim correctly. Please cite.silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:40 amIt's not like he went on national TV and claimed that passing a memory test that's given to check for dementia is a sign that he's more intelligent than 99% of the public.
Earlier this month, the president revealed to Fox News’ Sean Hannity that he had “very recently” taken a cognitive exam at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center, saying he had “aced it” and that doctors were “very surprised. They said ‘That’s an unbelievable thing. Rarely does anybody do what you just did.’”
Trump recently brought up his performance on the test as a challenge to Joe Biden, 77, the presumptive 2020 Democratic presidential nominee. On Wednesday, after a press briefing, Trump spoke to Fox News contributor Dr. Marc Siegel, during which he described the memory portion of the test. “It's like you'll go: Person, woman, man, camera, TV. So they say, ‘Could you repeat that?' So I said, ‘Yeah. So it's person, woman, man, camera, TV.’ ‘Okay, that's very good. If you get it in order, you get extra points.’”
In an interview with Fox News’ Chris Wallace on Sunday, Trump said that the exam gets progressively more difficult. “Yes, the first few questions are easy, but I'll bet you couldn't even answer the last five questions. I'll bet you couldn't, they get very hard, the last five questions,” he told Wallace.
Judge for yourself how common is "rarely."Trump then got into a long exchange with Wallace over his recent claim that he had "aced" a cognitive test. After Trump challenged Biden to take such an exam, Wallace said he had recently taken the same exam and found it to be quite easy. "They have a picture, and it says 'what's that?' and it's an elephant," Wallace said. Trump pushed back, saying that was "all misrepresentation."
"Because, yes, the first few questions are easy, but I'll bet you couldn't even answer the last five questions," Trump said. "I'll bet you couldn't. They get very hard, the last five questions." Wallace said one of the questions was to count back from 100 by seven. Trump continued to insist that Wallace "couldn't answer many of the questions."