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Re: Arbery Verdict

#26 Post by kroxquo » Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:13 pm

tlynn78 wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:14 am
tlynn78 wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:07 am
"I'm not going to get caught up in a game of whataboutism."

Which means you know full well Biden has exhibited far more bigotry than Trump ever did, but he's not Trump, so you just don't care

Name me one time that the 45th President was tolerant of an opinion that differed from his own.

Oh, bless your heart. For starters, he ran as a Republican.
"Here is a list of times that the 45th President was intolerant of an opinion that differed from his own:

The 2016 election was rigged to deny him a popular victory - that's not intolerance. And does the phrase "Russian collusion" mean anything? Hilz?
He had the largest inaugural crowd in history - again, not intolerance.
A hurricane threatened Alabama - again...
People should wear masks to prevent a pandemic - lol - psst, read the label on the box of masks.
Vladimir Putin can be trusted to be honest with him - so he's "tolerant" of Putin and not Xi Jinpin
It's okay to pressure a the leader of a foreign country for political gain - HAHAHAHAHA!! Biden, Ukraine?
He actually won the 2020 election" - again, not intolerance.

Krox, you satisfied my initial question by avoiding it. By the way, Biden's your president now, so you want to turn your attention to all his "accomplishments" and leave the orange bogeyman meme behind.
It is not the facts of these that we are discussing. It his opinions on them and in most of those, that opinion was not shaken even in the face of irrefutable facts.

I will agree that Biden has been a disappointment. Frankly, I'm not that surprised. He was not my first choice as the Democratic candidate. I would have preferred Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobuchar, Kirsten Gillibrand, Corey Booker, or Bernie Sanders. But Biden is what we got. I firmly believe that the country and American democracy itself is safer now than if the the 45th President had been re-elected.
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Re: Arbery Verdict

#27 Post by tlynn78 » Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:40 pm

kroxquo wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:13 pm
tlynn78 wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:14 am
tlynn78 wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:07 am
"I'm not going to get caught up in a game of whataboutism."

Which means you know full well Biden has exhibited far more bigotry than Trump ever did, but he's not Trump, so you just don't care

Name me one time that the 45th President was tolerant of an opinion that differed from his own.

Oh, bless your heart. For starters, he ran as a Republican.
"Here is a list of times that the 45th President was intolerant of an opinion that differed from his own:

The 2016 election was rigged to deny him a popular victory - that's not intolerance. And does the phrase "Russian collusion" mean anything? Hilz?
He had the largest inaugural crowd in history - again, not intolerance.
A hurricane threatened Alabama - again...
People should wear masks to prevent a pandemic - lol - psst, read the label on the box of masks.
Vladimir Putin can be trusted to be honest with him - so he's "tolerant" of Putin and not Xi Jinpin
It's okay to pressure a the leader of a foreign country for political gain - HAHAHAHAHA!! Biden, Ukraine?
He actually won the 2020 election" - again, not intolerance.

Krox, you satisfied my initial question by avoiding it. By the way, Biden's your president now, so you want to turn your attention to all his "accomplishments" and leave the orange bogeyman meme behind.
It is not the facts of these that we are discussing. It his opinions on them and in most of those, that opinion was not shaken even in the face of irrefutable facts.

I will agree that Biden has been a disappointment. Frankly, I'm not that surprised. He was not my first choice as the Democratic candidate. I would have preferred Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobuchar, Kirsten Gillibrand, Corey Booker, or Bernie Sanders. But Biden is what we got. I firmly believe that the country and American democracy itself is safer now than if the the 45th President had been re-elected.
Oh yes, things are so much better :roll:
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Re: Arbery Verdict

#28 Post by Bob Juch » Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:07 pm

tlynn78 wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:40 pm
kroxquo wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:13 pm
tlynn78 wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:14 am


"Here is a list of times that the 45th President was intolerant of an opinion that differed from his own:

The 2016 election was rigged to deny him a popular victory - that's not intolerance. And does the phrase "Russian collusion" mean anything? Hilz?
He had the largest inaugural crowd in history - again, not intolerance.
A hurricane threatened Alabama - again...
People should wear masks to prevent a pandemic - lol - psst, read the label on the box of masks.
Vladimir Putin can be trusted to be honest with him - so he's "tolerant" of Putin and not Xi Jinpin
It's okay to pressure a the leader of a foreign country for political gain - HAHAHAHAHA!! Biden, Ukraine?
He actually won the 2020 election" - again, not intolerance.

Krox, you satisfied my initial question by avoiding it. By the way, Biden's your president now, so you want to turn your attention to all his "accomplishments" and leave the orange bogeyman meme behind.
It is not the facts of these that we are discussing. It his opinions on them and in most of those, that opinion was not shaken even in the face of irrefutable facts.

I will agree that Biden has been a disappointment. Frankly, I'm not that surprised. He was not my first choice as the Democratic candidate. I would have preferred Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobuchar, Kirsten Gillibrand, Corey Booker, or Bernie Sanders. But Biden is what we got. I firmly believe that the country and American democracy itself is safer now than if the the 45th President had been re-elected.
Oh yes, things are so much better :roll:
Yes, they are. Stop watching Fox News.
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Re: Arbery Verdict

#29 Post by tlynn78 » Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:01 pm

Bob Juch wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:07 pm
tlynn78 wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:40 pm
kroxquo wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:13 pm


It is not the facts of these that we are discussing. It his opinions on them and in most of those, that opinion was not shaken even in the face of irrefutable facts.

I will agree that Biden has been a disappointment. Frankly, I'm not that surprised. He was not my first choice as the Democratic candidate. I would have preferred Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobuchar, Kirsten Gillibrand, Corey Booker, or Bernie Sanders. But Biden is what we got. I firmly believe that the country and American democracy itself is safer now than if the the 45th President had been re-elected.
Oh yes, things are so much better :roll:
Yes, they are. Stop watching Fox News.
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Re: Arbery Verdict

#30 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:27 pm

tlynn78 wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:17 pm
BackInTex wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:08 pm
tlynn78 wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:45 pm
Sounds like they got it right, from what (very) little I've heard.
Yep, the jury system has worked well this past week in the two major cases.
At least two!
Andrew Coffee IV was acquitted https://www.wpbf.com/article/andrew-cof ... s/38304640#
Suitguy is not bitter.

feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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