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Re: Game #207 – Unbilled

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:47 pm
by mellytu74
A-21. KIM HUNTER - Night of the Hunter starring Shelley Winters (B-24. THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE)??

Any ideas?

Not sure how "unbilled" works, though.

Re: Game #207 – Unbilled

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:29 am
by silverscreenselect
mellytu74 wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:47 pm
A-21. KIM HUNTER - Night of the Hunter starring Shelley Winters (B-24. THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE)??

Any ideas?

Not sure how "unbilled" works, though.
The Tangredi matches two actors and two films to form a quartet. If this is correct, then there would be a second film. Night of the Iguana is on the list, which makes for a match with Kim Hunter.

Re: Game #207 – Unbilled

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:42 pm
by mellytu74
silverscreenselect wrote:
Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:29 am
mellytu74 wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:47 pm
A-21. KIM HUNTER - Night of the Hunter starring Shelley Winters (B-24. THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE)??

Any ideas?

Not sure how "unbilled" works, though.
The Tangredi matches two actors and two films to form a quartet. If this is correct, then there would be a second film. Night of the Iguana is on the list, which makes for a match with Kim Hunter.
I know. I was seeing if a partial - if it is even a correct partial - might spark something. Another idea to play with, coupled with the Howard ideas you had earlier.

Re: Game #207 – Unbilled

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:12 am
by silverscreenselect
franktangredi wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:20 am
Two hints:

(a) Variants of this Tangredi have been used before in a general quiz, using Associated Words instead of movies.

(b) There was discussion here of how Curly might be used. I could have used Moe instead ... but not Larry.
The previous times that Frank had multiple associated words in a puzzle, he matched two names together in two different ways, each paired with a different associated word.
5. Bob Gibson + 88. Dylan Thomas = Bob Dylan (Rolling) and Thomas Gibson (Greg)
This puzzle can't involve just using the names to form other names, because there aren't any other Strathairns or Orbachs. But Howard suggests that the name Howard goes with some other actor's name to form a different name, perhaps one that's in one of those movies.

Re: Game #207 – Unbilled

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:54 pm
by mellytu74
silverscreenselect wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:12 am
franktangredi wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:20 am
Two hints:

(a) Variants of this Tangredi have been used before in a general quiz, using Associated Words instead of movies.

(b) There was discussion here of how Curly might be used. I could have used Moe instead ... but not Larry.
The previous times that Frank had multiple associated words in a puzzle, he matched two names together in two different ways, each paired with a different associated word.
5. Bob Gibson + 88. Dylan Thomas = Bob Dylan (Rolling) and Thomas Gibson (Greg)
This puzzle can't involve just using the names to form other names, because there aren't any other Strathairns or Orbachs. But Howard suggests that the name Howard goes with some other actor's name to form a different name, perhaps one that's in one of those movies.
Can the movies somehow be the Associated Words?

I am ready to head next-door for my post-Christmas tea with my neighbor. I can play with this in a while - if it's not solved next.

Re: Game #207 – Unbilled

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:51 am
by franktangredi
Okay, I think some help is called for.

A-17 and A-31 form the actor half of one of the foursomes.

Re: Game #207 – Unbilled

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:29 am
by kroxquo
franktangredi wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:51 am
Okay, I think some help is called for.

A-17 and A-31 form the actor half of one of the foursomes.
That is Eileen Brennan and Jessica Lange. They both played a character named Doreen - Brennan in "Private Benjamin" and Lange in "Don't Come Knocking". Is that anything?

Re: Game #207 – Unbilled

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:10 am
by silverscreenselect
kroxquo wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:29 am
franktangredi wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:51 am
Okay, I think some help is called for.

A-17 and A-31 form the actor half of one of the foursomes.
That is Eileen Brennan and Jessica Lange. They both played a character named Doreen - Brennan in "Private Benjamin" and Lange in "Don't Come Knocking". Is that anything?
Don't Come Knocking is a fairly obscure role in Lange's filmography, and I think this would lead to far too many matches among actors. My guess is that half the male actors on this list have played a character named "John" or "Bob" at one time or another, and the females could easily have played "Mary." I keep going back to Curly Howard. Since Moe Howard would also have worked, but Larry Fine wouldn't, then the link has something to do with the word "Howard."

Re: Game #207 – Unbilled

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:30 am
by silverscreenselect
Trying to kickstart this again. There are three main ways that an actor can be part of a Tangredi: Their name, a role they played, or a movie they were in. Frank says that the actors are used in two different ways. Since Frank has pretty much indicated that Curly Howard is on the list for "Howard," then one of the ways would seem to be the actor's last name. In this case, that would mean that the Tangredi involves "Brennan" or "Lange." The only other acting Brennan I know of is Walter Brennan, while the other Langes are Hope Lange, Eric Lange, and Ted Lange from The Love Boat.

Maybe something will ring a bell here.

Re: Game #207 – Unbilled

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 6:22 am
by earendel
silverscreenselect wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:30 am
Trying to kickstart this again. There are three main ways that an actor can be part of a Tangredi: Their name, a role they played, or a movie they were in. Frank says that the actors are used in two different ways. Since Frank has pretty much indicated that Curly Howard is on the list for "Howard," then one of the ways would seem to be the actor's last name. In this case, that would mean that the Tangredi involves "Brennan" or "Lange." The only other acting Brennan I know of is Walter Brennan, while the other Langes are Hope Lange, Eric Lange, and Ted Lange from The Love Boat.

Maybe something will ring a bell here.
What about Eileen Brennan (Private Benjamin)?

Re: Game #207 – Unbilled

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 9:14 am
by Estonut
earendel wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 6:22 am
silverscreenselect wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:30 am
Trying to kickstart this again. There are three main ways that an actor can be part of a Tangredi: Their name, a role they played, or a movie they were in. Frank says that the actors are used in two different ways. Since Frank has pretty much indicated that Curly Howard is on the list for "Howard," then one of the ways would seem to be the actor's last name. In this case, that would mean that the Tangredi involves "Brennan" or "Lange." The only other acting Brennan I know of is Walter Brennan, while the other Langes are Hope Lange, Eric Lange, and Ted Lange from The Love Boat.

Maybe something will ring a bell here.
What about Eileen Brennan (Private Benjamin)?
There's a Hallmark actor named Brennan Elliott.

Re: Game #207 – Unbilled

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 9:41 am
by franktangredi
silverscreenselect wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:30 am
Trying to kickstart this again. There are three main ways that an actor can be part of a Tangredi: Their name, a role they played, or a movie they were in. Frank says that the actors are used in two different ways. Since Frank has pretty much indicated that Curly Howard is on the list for "Howard," then one of the ways would seem to be the actor's last name. In this case, that would mean that the Tangredi involves "Brennan" or "Lange." The only other acting Brennan I know of is Walter Brennan, while the other Langes are Hope Lange, Eric Lange, and Ted Lange from The Love Boat.

Maybe something will ring a bell here.
There's information in here that will solve the Tangredi for you.

Re: Game #207 – Unbilled

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 6:02 pm
by kroxquo
franktangredi wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 9:41 am
silverscreenselect wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:30 am
Trying to kickstart this again. There are three main ways that an actor can be part of a Tangredi: Their name, a role they played, or a movie they were in. Frank says that the actors are used in two different ways. Since Frank has pretty much indicated that Curly Howard is on the list for "Howard," then one of the ways would seem to be the actor's last name. In this case, that would mean that the Tangredi involves "Brennan" or "Lange." The only other acting Brennan I know of is Walter Brennan, while the other Langes are Hope Lange, Eric Lange, and Ted Lange from The Love Boat.

Maybe something will ring a bell here.
There's information in here that will solve the Tangredi for you.
Looking over Walter Brennan's screen credits on IMDB, a few jump out -

He played Sheriff Bill Howard in Surrender

He played Walter in The Story of Vernon and Irene Castle and in looking at Hope Lange, she played Hope in The Young Lions. Probably doesn't mean anything but I am just spitballing.

Re: Game #207 – Unbilled

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:02 am
by mellytu74
I got so excited I woke myself up

Claire Trevor was in Murder My Sweet
Trevor (Curly) Howard was in Brief Encounter

I thought something may have to do with names.

The problem is, the Claire in the puzzle is Bloom.

Re: Game #207 – Unbilled

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:26 am
by silverscreenselect
mellytu74 wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:02 am
I got so excited I woke myself up

Claire Trevor was in Murder My Sweet
Trevor (Curly) Howard was in Brief Encounter

I thought something may have to do with names.

The problem is, the Claire in the puzzle is Bloom.
You've got it.

Jessica (Lange) Walter was in Play Misty for Me

Walter (Eileen) Brennan was in Sergeant York.

Re: Game #207 – Unbilled

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:32 am
by silverscreenselect
Jane (Powell) Russell was in The Paleface

Russell (Neville) Brand was in Arthur (the clue specifically refers to the remake)

Re: Game #207 – Unbilled

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:35 am
by silverscreenselect
And while we're at it.

Bob (Hoskins) Hope was in The Paleface

Hope (Jessica) Lange was in Peyton Place

Re: Game #207 – Unbilled

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:37 am
by silverscreenselect
A few more before I go to bed.

Bill (Travers) Murray was in Space Jam
Murray (Margaret) Hamilton was in Jaws

Jean (Harlow) Arthur was in The More the Merrier
Arthur (Jerry) O'Connell was in The Poseidon Adventure

There needs to be an actor named Dennis in this quiz because

Dennis (????) Christopher was in Breaking Away
Christopher (Jason) Lee was in The Wicker Man

Matthew (Modine) Broderick was in Glory
Broderick (Joan) Crawford was in Born Yesterday

Nigel (Hawthorne) Bruce was in Treasure Island
Bruce (Peter) Davison was in Last Summer

Richard (Jenkins) Thomas was in Last Summer
Thomas (Cameron) Mitchell was in It's a Wonderful Life

Lauren (Bacall) Holly was in Dumb and Dumber
Holly (Kim) Hunter was in Broadcast News

Paul Ford yields Harrison Ford in Raiders of the Lost Ark

Re: Game #207 – Unbilled

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:16 am
by franktangredi
Yay!

Re: Game #207 – Unbilled

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:36 am
by mellytu74
Dennis (????) Christopher was in Breaking Away
Christopher (Jason) Lee was in The Wicker Man

This confirms DENNIS MILLER

Re: Game #207 – Unbilled

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:26 am
by mellytu74
A-14. TOMMY (CHONG) Kirk was in B-7. OLD YELLER
Kirk (Melvyn) Douglas was in B-34. BAD AND THE BEAUTIFUL

A-18. PAUL (FORD) Dooley was in B-50. BREAKING AWAY
Dooley (Scott) Wilson was in B-2 CASABLANCA

Re: Game #207 – Unbilled

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:41 am
by mellytu74
A-21. KIM (HUNTER) Stanley was in B-44. THE RIGHT STUFF
Stanley (A-54. STERLING) HOLLOWAY was in B-3. TEN LITTLE INDIANS

A-53. BOBBY (DARIN) Van was in B-21. KISS ME KATE
Van (A-4. BEN) JOHNSON was in B-49. BATTLEGROUND

A-1. WARREN (BEATTY) William was in B-23. LADY FOR A DAY
William (A-48. JANE) POWELL was in B-45. THE GREAT ZIEGFELD

A-15. ELAINE (STRITCH) May was in B-37. CALIFORNIA SUITE
May (A-35. FLORA) was in B-23. LADY FOR A DAY

Re: Game #207 – Unbilled

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:22 pm
by mellytu74
A-11. JAMES (COBURN) Dean was in B-6. GIANT
Dean (A-58. STEVE) MARTIN was in B-43. LIVING IT UP

A-58. STEVE (MARTIN) Forrest was in B-26. MOMMY DEAREST
Forrest (A-30. CHRIS) TUCKER was in B-11. SANDS OF IWO JIMA

A-52. EDDIE (MURPHY) Albert was in B-15. OKLAHOMA
Albert (A-10. MEL) BROOKS was in B-48. BROADCAST NEWS

A Partial

A-24. GLADYS (COOPER) George was in B-18. THE ROARING TWENTIES
George xx

Re: Game #207 – Unbilled

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:38 pm
by mellytu74
A couple more and then I have to go for a while

A-39. SCOTT (WILSON) Glenn was in B-44. THE RIGHT STUFF
Glenn (A-25. DENNIS) MILLER was in B-35. SUN VALLEY SERENADE

A-22. KATHRYN (GRANT) was in B-21. KISS ME KATE
Grayson (A-57. JON) HALL was in B-25. NIGHT OF THE IGUANA

A-29. GENE (TIERNEY) Barry was in B-27. WAR OF THE WORLDS
Barry (A-51. GERALDINE) FITZGERALD was in the original version of B-3. AND THEN THERE WERE NONE

Re: Game #207 – Unbilled

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:48 pm
by mellytu74
Please stop me

A-30. CHRIS (TUCKER) Rock was in B-42. MADAGASCAR
Rock (A-43 JENNIFER) HUDSON was in B-6. GIANT