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RIP Adlai Stevenson III

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:58 pm
by Bob Juch
He died on Monday at his home in Chicago. He was 90. The cause was Lewy body disease.

Re: RIP Adlai Stevenson

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 6:26 pm
by silverscreenselect
Bob Juch wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:58 pm
He died on Monday at his home in Chicago. He was 90. The cause was Lewy body disease.
I assume you're referring to Adlai Stevenson III, the Ill. Senator and not his father, Adlai Stevenson II, the Presidential nominee who died some time ago.

Re: RIP Adlai Stevenson

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:35 pm
by Bob Juch
silverscreenselect wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 6:26 pm
Bob Juch wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:58 pm
He died on Monday at his home in Chicago. He was 90. The cause was Lewy body disease.
I assume you're referring to Adlai Stevenson III, the Ill. Senator and not his father, Adlai Stevenson II, the Presidential nominee who died some time ago.
Yes, of course.

Re: RIP Adlai Stevenson

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:22 pm
by wbtravis007
silverscreenselect wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 6:26 pm
Bob Juch wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:58 pm
He died on Monday at his home in Chicago. He was 90. The cause was Lewy body disease.
I assume you're referring to Adlai Stevenson III, the Ill. Senator and not his father, Adlai Stevenson II, the Presidential nominee who died some time ago.
I think that’s a pretty fair assumption!

Re: RIP Adlai Stevenson

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:20 pm
by jarnon
wbtravis007 wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:22 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 6:26 pm
Bob Juch wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:58 pm
He died on Monday at his home in Chicago. He was 90. The cause was Lewy body disease.
I assume you're referring to Adlai Stevenson III, the Ill. Senator and not his father, Adlai Stevenson II, the Presidential nominee who died some time ago.
I think that’s a pretty fair assumption!
At what point does a prominent man "own" a name he shares with his dad? Not a problem for Al Gore Jr., Barack H. Obama II, Joseph R. Biden Jr., or John McCain III. OTOH Robert Kennedy Jr. or Donald Trump Jr. could live to be 100, and they'd still be called Junior.

Re: RIP Adlai Stevenson

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 7:34 am
by earendel
jarnon wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:20 pm
wbtravis007 wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:22 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 6:26 pm


I assume you're referring to Adlai Stevenson III, the Ill. Senator and not his father, Adlai Stevenson II, the Presidential nominee who died some time ago.
I think that’s a pretty fair assumption!
At what point does a prominent man "own" a name he shares with his dad? Not a problem for Al Gore Jr., Barack H. Obama II, Joseph R. Biden Jr., or John McCain III. OTOH Robert Kennedy Jr. or Donald Trump Jr. could live to be 100, and they'd still be called Junior.
Martin Luther King, Jr. seems to have achieved that status, at least as far as J! is concerned - contestants who answer "Who is Martin Luther King" aren't asked to be more specific, even though King's father was a well-known minister in his own right.

Re: RIP Adlai Stevenson

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:20 am
by silverscreenselect
earendel wrote:
Thu Sep 09, 2021 7:34 am
jarnon wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:20 pm
wbtravis007 wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:22 pm


I think that’s a pretty fair assumption!
At what point does a prominent man "own" a name he shares with his dad? Not a problem for Al Gore Jr., Barack H. Obama II, Joseph R. Biden Jr., or John McCain III. OTOH Robert Kennedy Jr. or Donald Trump Jr. could live to be 100, and they'd still be called Junior.
Martin Luther King, Jr. seems to have achieved that status, at least as far as J! is concerned - contestants who answer "Who is Martin Luther King" aren't asked to be more specific, even though King's father was a well-known minister in his own right.
It's a bit more complicated with actors. SAG rules prohibit multiple actors from using the same name, so many of them use their middle names or initials like Michael J. Fox. The original Michael Fox had a long but relatively undistinguished TV career. He died in 1996, so Michael J. Fox could then have changed his stage name but didn't, undoubtedly because he was so well known already. Jason Robards, on the other hand, was billed originally as Jason Robards, Jr. in his first few films. When his father, Jason Robards Sr. died in the early 1960s, Robards dropped the Jr. and was billed simply as "Jason Robards" for the rest of his career. Other than Robards, most of the well-known Jrs. I'm aware of, like Ed Begley and Freddie Prinze, keep the Jr. after their father's death (although Prinze was just an infant when his father died and Begley had just started his acting career).