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Lyrically Speaking - 2/11/21

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:18 pm
by littlebeast13
It's the penultimate game of the 2021 LSWE... so why not celebrate it with the penultimate letter of the alphabet, good ol' Y. Stuck in the second to last spot in the alphabet, Y is the transgender of letters who can't decide if it's a consonant or a vowel. It's also not a letter a lot of song titles start with, short of a very common second person pronoun. I challenged myself to fill out a game of songs whose titles begin with 12 different Y words, which wasn't easy since my old lyrics site I used to use that listed songs by letter bit the dust last year.... but here it is!

1 point for the title, 1 point for the artist...


1. No man, does it all by himself
I said, young man, put your pride on the shelf

2. Don't let them put you down, don't let 'em push you around,
Don't let 'em ever change your point of view.

3. But I think that you're wild
When you flash that fragile smile

4. I don't even know
How to love you
Just the way you
Want me to, oh, baby

5. In the town where I was born
Lived a man who sailed to sea

6. I was up in the club wit my homies
Trying to get a lil V-I
Keep it down on the low key

7. We walked together hand in hand
Cross miles and miles of golden sand
But now it's over and done

8. Well, it's a doggone shame but never too late for change
So if your luck runs low
Just reach out and call His name, His name

9. She doesn't give you time for questions
As she locks up your arm in hers
And you follow till your sense of
Which direction completely disappears

10. Well, guess who`s
Back in circulation
Now I don`t know what
You might have heard
But what I need right now
Is the original good time girl

11. Anyway, the thing, what I really mean
Yours are the sweetest eyes I've ever seen

12. Well, I'm not dumb, but I can't understand
How he can lift me in the air just by raising his hand


Kroxquo Bonus: Name another song with artist whose title begins with the letter Y, without re-using a Y-word in any song you identified above!

Image Bonus: Show me Y!

Re: Lyrically Speaking - 2/11/21

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:52 am
by jarnon
Let’s get started!
1. YMCA, Village People
5. Yellow Submarine, Beatles
11. Your Song, Elton John
12. Yoda

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Re: Lyrically Speaking - 2/11/21

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:34 am
by PanicinDetroit
Yikes!!!
1. No man, does it all by himself
I said, young man, put your pride on the shelf
YMCA - THE VILLAGE PEOPLE

2. Don't let them put you down, don't let 'em push you around,
Don't let 'em ever change your point of view.
YOUNG TURKS - ROD STEWART

3. But I think that you're wild
When you flash that fragile smile
YOU MIGHT THINK - THE CARS

5. In the town where I was born
Lived a man who sailed to sea
YELLOW SUBMARINE - THE BEATLES

6. I was up in the club wit my homies
Trying to get a lil V-I
Keep it down on the low key
YEAH - USHER

9. She doesn't give you time for questions
As she locks up your arm in hers
And you follow till your sense of
Which direction completely disappears
YEAR OF THE CAT - AL STEWART

11. Anyway, the thing, what I really mean
Yours are the sweetest eyes I've ever seen
YOUR SONG - ELTON JOHN

12. Well, I'm not dumb, but I can't understand
How he can lift me in the air just by raising his hand
YODA - WEIRD AL


Kroxquo Bonus: Name another song with artist whose title begins with the letter Y, without re-using a Y-word in any song you identified above!
YUMMY YUMMY YUMMY - THE OHIO EXPRESS

Image Bonus: Show me Y!

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Re: Lyrically Speaking - 2/11/21

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:20 am
by ShamelessWeasel
Spoiler

1.YMCA - Village People
2. nope
3. You might think - The Cars
4. nope
5. Yellow Submarine - The Beatles
6. nope
7. nope
8. Yah mo Be There - Michael McDonald
9. Year of the cat - Al Stewart
10. nope
11. Your Song - Sir Elton
12. Yoda - Weird Al (you listen you really listen)


Kroxquo Bonus: YYZ - Rush (can see why you did not use this one :) )


Image Bonus:
In honor of the first song

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Re: Lyrically Speaking - 2/11/21

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:45 am
by Vandal
Spoiler
1. YMCA - Village People
2. Young Turks - Rod Stewart
3. You Might Think - Cars
5. Yellow Submarine - Beatles
9. Year of the Cat - Al Stewart
11. Your Song - Elton John


Kroxquo Bonus: You Are What You Is - Frank Zappa

Image Bonus:
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ETA: Stupid me, I posted an X-related comic as I searched for Y.

Re: Lyrically Speaking - 2/11/21

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:27 am
by earendel
Spoiler
1. No man, does it all by himself
I said, young man, put your pride on the shelf
YMCA - The Village People

5. In the town where I was born
Lived a man who sailed to sea
YELLOW SUBMARINE - The Beatles

7. We walked together hand in hand
Cross miles and miles of golden sand
But now it's over and done
YESTERDAY'S GONE - Chad & Jeremy

9. She doesn't give you time for questions
As she locks up your arm in hers
And you follow till your sense of
Which direction completely disappears
YEAR OF THE CAT - Al Stewart

11. Anyway, the thing, what I really mean
Yours are the sweetest eyes I've ever seen
YOUR SONG - Elton John

Kroxquo Bonus: Name another song with artist whose title begins with the letter Y, without re-using a Y-word in any song you identified above!
YOUNG GIRL - Gary Puckett & the Union Gap

Re: Lyrically Speaking - 2/11/21

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:55 am
by kroxquo
Spoiler
1 point for the title, 1 point for the artist...


1. No man, does it all by himself
I said, young man, put your pride on the shelf

YMCA - Village People. I don't think this song would be nearly as popular at ballgames and weddings if people realized it was promoting the gay lifestyle.

2. Don't let them put you down, don't let 'em push you around,
Don't let 'em ever change your point of view.

Young Turks - Rod Stewart

3. But I think that you're wild
When you flash that fragile smile

You might Think - The Cars

4. I don't even know
How to love you
Just the way you
Want me to, oh, baby

5. In the town where I was born
Lived a man who sailed to sea

Yellow Submarine - The Beatles

6. I was up in the club wit my homies
Trying to get a lil V-I
Keep it down on the low key

7. We walked together hand in hand
Cross miles and miles of golden sand
But now it's over and done

8. Well, it's a doggone shame but never too late for change
So if your luck runs low
Just reach out and call His name, His name

9. She doesn't give you time for questions
As she locks up your arm in hers
And you follow till your sense of
Which direction completely disappears

Year of the Cat - Al Stewart

10. Well, guess who`s
Back in circulation
Now I don`t know what
You might have heard
But what I need right now
Is the original good time girl

11. Anyway, the thing, what I really mean
Yours are the sweetest eyes I've ever seen

12. Well, I'm not dumb, but I can't understand
How he can lift me in the air just by raising his hand

Yoda - Weird Al


Kroxquo Bonus: Name another song with artist whose title begins with the letter Y, without re-using a Y-word in any song you identified above!

Your Move - Yes

Image Bonus: Show me Y!

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Re: Lyrically Speaking - 2/11/21

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:03 am
by franktangredi
Spoiler
1. YMCA/THE VILLAGE PEOPLE
2. YOUNG TURKS/ROD STEWAR
3. YOU MIGHT THINK/THE CARS
4. YES, I'M READY/SOMEBODY WHO WAS READY
5. YELLOW SUBMARINE/THE BEATLES
7. YESTERDAY'S GONE/CHAD AND JEREMY
9. YEAR OF THE CAT/AL STEWART
11. YOUR SONG/ELTON JOHN
12. YODA/WEIRD AL YANKOVIC
Kroxquo Bonus: Name another song with artist whose title begins with the letter Y, without re-using a Y-word in any song you identified above!
YAKETY YAK/THE COASTERS
Image Bonus: Show me Y!
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Re: Lyrically Speaking - 2/11/21

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:43 am
by SportsFan68
Spoiler
littlebeast13 wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:18 pm
It's the penultimate game of the 2021 LSWE... so why not celebrate it with the penultimate letter of the alphabet, good ol' Y. Stuck in the second to last spot in the alphabet, Y is the transgender of letters who can't decide if it's a consonant or a vowel. It's also not a letter a lot of song titles start with, short of a very common second person pronoun. I challenged myself to fill out a game of songs whose titles begin with 12 different Y words, which wasn't easy since my old lyrics site I used to use that listed songs by letter bit the dust last year.... but here it is!

1 point for the title, 1 point for the artist...


1. No man, does it all by himself
I said, young man, put your pride on the shelf

YMCA, Village People

2. Don't let them put you down, don't let 'em push you around,
Don't let 'em ever change your point of view.

This is probably one of those "easy" ones that might get me a JJC point but nothing else.

Let's try Young Love, Pat Boone. If this actually shows up later on, I'll change it.

3. But I think that you're wild
When you flash that fragile smile

You might think. Dunno artist.

4. I don't even know
How to love you
Just the way you
Want me to, oh, baby

Yakety Sax, Boots Randolph.

See Note 2.

5. In the town where I was born
Lived a man who sailed to sea

Yellow Submarine, Beatles.

6. I was up in the club wit my homies
Trying to get a lil V-I
Keep it down on the low key

7. We walked together hand in hand
Cross miles and miles of golden sand
But now it's over and done
That was yesterday, and

Yesterday's gone. This is pretty old -- maybe Young Love will show up!

8. Well, it's a doggone shame but never too late for change
So if your luck runs low
Just reach out and call His name, His name

9. She doesn't give you time for questions
As she locks up your arm in hers
And you follow till your sense of
Which direction completely disappears

Year of the Cat, Al Stewart

10. Well, guess who`s
Back in circulation
Now I don`t know what
You might have heard
But what I need right now
Is the original good time girl

11. Anyway, the thing, what I really mean
Yours are the sweetest eyes I've ever seen

Good thing you told me the title had to start with Y. I would have called it "This is your song."

Your song, Elton John

12. Well, I'm not dumb, but I can't understand
How he can lift me in the air just by raising his hand

Kroxquo Bonus: Name another song with artist whose title begins with the letter Y, without re-using a Y-word in any song you identified above!

Young Love, Pat Boone

Image Bonus: Show me Y!

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Re: Lyrically Speaking - 2/11/21

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:22 am
by mrkelley23
littlebeast13
It's the penultimate game of the 2021 LSWE... so why not celebrate it with the penultimate letter of the alphabet, good ol' Y. Stuck in the second to last spot in the alphabet, Y is the transgender of letters who can't decide if it's a consonant or a vowel. It's also not a letter a lot of song titles start with, short of a very common second person pronoun. I challenged myself to fill out a game of songs whose titles begin with 12 different Y words, which wasn't easy since my old lyrics site I used to use that listed songs by letter bit the dust last year.... but here it is!

1 point for the title, 1 point for the artist...


1. No man, does it all by himself
I said, young man, put your pride on the shelf

YMCA -- Village People

2. Don't let them put you down, don't let 'em push you around,
Don't let 'em ever change your point of view.

Young Turks -- Rod Stewart

3. But I think that you're wild
When you flash that fragile smile

You Might Think -- The Cars

4. I don't even know
How to love you
Just the way you
Want me to, oh, baby

5. In the town where I was born
Lived a man who sailed to sea

Yellow Submarine -- The Beatles

6. I was up in the club wit my homies
Trying to get a lil V-I
Keep it down on the low key

Yeah -- Usher and a couple others

7. We walked together hand in hand
Cross miles and miles of golden sand
But now it's over and done

8. Well, it's a doggone shame but never too late for change
So if your luck runs low
Just reach out and call His name, His name

Yah Mo Be There -- Doobie Brothers or Michael MacDonald solo, can't remember

9. She doesn't give you time for questions
As she locks up your arm in hers
And you follow till your sense of
Which direction completely disappears

Year of the Cat -- Al Stewart

10. Well, guess who`s
Back in circulation
Now I don`t know what
You might have heard
But what I need right now
Is the original good time girl

11. Anyway, the thing, what I really mean
Yours are the sweetest eyes I've ever seen

Your Song -- Elton John

12. Well, I'm not dumb, but I can't understand
How he can lift me in the air just by raising his hand

Yoda -- Weird Al Yankovic


Kroxquo Bonus: Name another song with artist whose title begins with the letter Y, without re-using a Y-word in any song you identified above!

Yesterday when I was Young -- Roy Clark

Image Bonus: Show me Y!

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Re: Lyrically Speaking - 2/11/21

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:54 pm
by T_Bone0806
littlebeast13 wrote:
Spoiler


1. No man, does it all by himself
I said, young man, put your pride on the shelf

YMCA-Village People

2. Don't let them put you down, don't let 'em push you around,
Don't let 'em ever change your point of view.

Young Turks-Rod Stewart

3. But I think that you're wild
When you flash that fragile smile

You Might Think-The Cars

4. I don't even know
How to love you
Just the way you
Want me to, oh, baby

Yes, I'm Ready-Barbara Mason

5. In the town where I was born
Lived a man who sailed to sea

Yellow Submarine-The Beatles

6. I was up in the club wit my homies
Trying to get a lil V-I
Keep it down on the low key

Yo, Vanilla Ice Got Nothin' On Me-Pat Boone

7. We walked together hand in hand
Cross miles and miles of golden sand
But now it's over and done

Yesterday's Gone-Chad and Jeremy

8. Well, it's a doggone shame but never too late for change
So if your luck runs low
Just reach out and call His name, His name

Yah Mo B There-James Ingram w/Michael McDonald

9. She doesn't give you time for questions
As she locks up your arm in hers
And you follow till your sense of
Which direction completely disappears

Year Of The Cat-Al Stewart

10. Well, guess who`s
Back in circulation
Now I don`t know what
You might have heard
But what I need right now
Is the original good time girl

Yearning For Yvonne-Fred Gwynne and The Yodeling Yokels

11. Anyway, the thing, what I really mean
Yours are the sweetest eyes I've ever seen

Your Song-Elton John

12. Well, I'm not dumb, but I can't understand
How he can lift me in the air just by raising his hand

Yoda-Weird Al Yankovic


Kroxquo Bonus: Name another song with artist whose title begins with the letter Y, without re-using a Y-word in any song you identified above!

Yadig?-James Gang

Image Bonus: Show me Y!

Sesame Street is brought to you today by the letter Y...but you'll have to read between the lines....


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Re: Lyrically Speaking - 2/11/21

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:38 pm
by mellytu74
Spoiler
1. No man, does it all by himself
I said, young man, put your pride on the shelf

YMCA - VILLAGE PEOPLE

2. Don't let them put you down, don't let 'em push you around,
Don't let 'em ever change your point of view.

YOUNG TURKS - ROD STEWART

3. But I think that you're wild
When you flash that fragile smile

YOU MIGHT THINK - THE CARS

5. In the town where I was born
Lived a man who sailed to sea

YELLOW SUBMARINE - THE BEATLES

7. We walked together hand in hand
Cross miles and miles of golden sand
But now it's over and done

YESTERDAY'S GONE - CHAD & JEREMY

9. She doesn't give you time for questions
As she locks up your arm in hers
And you follow till your sense of
Which direction completely disappears

YEAR OF THE CAT - AL STEWART

11. Anyway, the thing, what I really mean
Yours are the sweetest eyes I've ever seen

YOUR SONG - ELTON JOHN

12. Well, I'm not dumb, but I can't understand
How he can lift me in the air just by raising his hand

YODA - WEIRD AL

Kroxquo Bonus: Name another song with artist whose title begins with the letter Y, without re-using a Y-word in any song you identified above!

YOU GOT IT - ROY ORBISON

Image Bonus: Show me Y!

I tried to find llamas, but alpacas will have to do.

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Re: Lyrically Speaking - 2/11/21

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:21 pm
by Hotseat Or Bust!
Spoiler
1.) YMCA - The Village People, 2.) Young Hearts - Rod Stewart, 3.) You Might Think - The Cars, 5.) Yellow Submarine - The Beatles, 11.) Your Song - Elton John.
Krox Bonus: Yesterday - The Beatles. Image Bonus: www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWTdEe5H6BA

Re: Lyrically Speaking - 2/11/21

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:01 am
by Bob78164
Yikes! And Yumpin' Yiminy.
1. No man, does it all by himself
I said, young man, put your pride on the shelf

YMCA, The Village People

2. Don't let them put you down, don't let 'em push you around,
Don't let 'em ever change your point of view.

3. But I think that you're wild
When you flash that fragile smile

4. I don't even know
How to love you
Just the way you
Want me to, oh, baby

5. In the town where I was born
Lived a man who sailed to sea

Yellow Submarine, The Beatles

6. I was up in the club wit my homies
Trying to get a lil V-I
Keep it down on the low key

7. We walked together hand in hand
Cross miles and miles of golden sand
But now it's over and done

8. Well, it's a doggone shame but never too late for change
So if your luck runs low
Just reach out and call His name, His name

9. She doesn't give you time for questions
As she locks up your arm in hers
And you follow till your sense of
Which direction completely disappears

The Year of the Cat, Al Stewart

10. Well, guess who`s
Back in circulation
Now I don`t know what
You might have heard
But what I need right now
Is the original good time girl

11. Anyway, the thing, what I really mean
Yours are the sweetest eyes I've ever seen

Your Song, Elton John

12. Well, I'm not dumb, but I can't understand
How he can lift me in the air just by raising his hand


Kroxquo Bonus: Name another song with artist whose title begins with the letter Y, without re-using a Y-word in any song you identified above! You Can't Stop This, MC Hammer

Image Bonus: Show me Y!

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--Bob

Re: Lyrically Speaking - 2/11/21

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:02 am
by Earl the Squirrel
Spoiler
littlebeast13 wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:18 pm
It's the penultimate game of the 2021 LSWE... so why not celebrate it with the penultimate letter of the alphabet, good ol' Y. Stuck in the second to last spot in the alphabet, Y is the transgender of letters who can't decide if it's a consonant or a vowel. It's also not a letter a lot of song titles start with, short of a very common second person pronoun. I challenged myself to fill out a game of songs whose titles begin with 12 different Y words, which wasn't easy since my old lyrics site I used to use that listed songs by letter bit the dust last year.... but here it is!

1 point for the title, 1 point for the artist...


1. No man, does it all by himself
I said, young man, put your pride on the shelf

YMCA - Village People

2. Don't let them put you down, don't let 'em push you around,
Don't let 'em ever change your point of view.

Young Turks - Rod Stewart

3. But I think that you're wild
When you flash that fragile smile

You Might Think - Cars

4. I don't even know
How to love you
Just the way you
Want me to, oh, baby

5. In the town where I was born
Lived a man who sailed to sea

Yellow Submarine - Beatles

6. I was up in the club wit my homies
Trying to get a lil V-I
Keep it down on the low key

Yeah - Lil' Jon with Ludacris and some guy named Usher....

Yes, it's still my ringtone. Yes, it's still annoying. (Look at me, following the day's theme and all...

7. We walked together hand in hand
Cross miles and miles of golden sand
But now it's over and done

Yesterday's Gone - Chad & Jeremy

8. Well, it's a doggone shame but never too late for change
So if your luck runs low
Just reach out and call His name, His name

9. She doesn't give you time for questions
As she locks up your arm in hers
And you follow till your sense of
Which direction completely disappears

Year of the Cat - Al Stewart

Now about those prescient points.... Also, apt as today is Chinese New Year. Gong Xi Fa Cai!!

10. Well, guess who`s
Back in circulation
Now I don`t know what
You might have heard
But what I need right now
Is the original good time girl

Yankee Rose - David Lee Roth

11. Anyway, the thing, what I really mean
Yours are the sweetest eyes I've ever seen

Your Song - Elton John

12. Well, I'm not dumb, but I can't understand
How he can lift me in the air just by raising his hand

Yoda - Weird Al Yankovic


Kroxquo Bonus: Name another song with artist whose title begins with the letter Y, without re-using a Y-word in any song you identified above!

Yesterdays - Guns n Roses

Yes, it's legal! It's plural, not a contraction (no apostrophe). Vies with Patience as my favourite GnR song...

Image Bonus: Show me Y!

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Re: Lyrically Speaking - 2/11/21

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:03 am
by littlebeast13
1. No man, does it all by himself
I said, young man, put your pride on the shelf
YMCA - Village People

2. Don't let them put you down, don't let 'em push you around,
Don't let 'em ever change your point of view.
Young Turks - Rod Stewart (I can't remember if it was Ned Jarrett or Buddy Baker, but one of the old NASCAR announcers from back in the days when Dick Trickle had me watching the races every Sunday is literally the only person I've ever heard use the phrase "young turks" before. Until then, I always thought it was just some randomly stupid title Rod decided to slap on this song...)

3. But I think that you're wild
When you flash that fragile smile
You Might Think - Cars

4. I don't even know
How to love you
Just the way you
Want me to, oh, baby
Yes, I'm Ready - Barbara Mason, or the only version I know, Teri DeSario and KC

5. In the town where I was born
Lived a man who sailed to sea
Yellow Submarine - Beatles

6. I was up in the club wit my homies
Trying to get a lil V-I
Keep it down on the low key
Yeah! - Usher featuring Ludacris, Lil Jon, Lil Ballz, Dip Diddy, Pimpdaddy Poopyhead, Grandamaster Dumbass, and probably Poser Fleaballs as well... because it isn't a hip hop song if you don't invite the whole posse into the studio with you!

7. We walked together hand in hand
Cross miles and miles of golden sand
But now it's over and done
Yesterday's Gone - Chad and Jeremy

8. Well, it's a doggone shame but never too late for change
So if your luck runs low
Just reach out and call His name, His name
Yah Mo Be There - James Ingram and Michael McDonald (Other than its tenure as a Mecca earworm, that this was on the charts in late 83-early 84 when I was listening to the Top 40 countdown every Sunday morning is probably the only reason I don't consider this song to be an obscurity...)

9. She doesn't give you time for questions
As she locks up your arm in hers
And you follow till your sense of
Which direction completely disappears
Year of the Cat - Al Stewart

10. Well, guess who`s
Back in circulation
Now I don`t know what
You might have heard
But what I need right now
Is the original good time girl
Yankee Rose - David Lee Roth (Not one of Diamond Dave's best remembered solo hits, but I end up having to pull this one out a lot for theme games...)

11. Anyway, the thing, what I really mean
Yours are the sweetest eyes I've ever seen
Your Song - Elton John (Maybe it's because I'm an antisocial unromantic type of person, but I couldn't tell you the eye color of any person I've ever met. Seriously....)

12. Well, I'm not dumb, but I can't understand
How he can lift me in the air just by raising his hand
Yoda - Weird Al Yankovic (Back before Yoda sold out and became cute....)


Image Bonus: Show me Y!

The only thing that kept TBone from picking up a second straight IBB was the fact that Hottie copied off his paper, because I was definitely hoping someone was going to use Nancy Kerrigan. Such that it is, it's another IBB for Weasel, because the Chinese YMCA cracked my ass up...

Re: Lyrically Speaking - 2/11/21

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:17 am
by littlebeast13
JJC Points:


jarnon gets 2 JJC points for...... um, the Village People version of "Hit the Road Jack?"

Panic gets 2 JJC points for reminding me of the exact moment in time when I started hating math...

Weasel gets a supermax for an epic official submission, and two other great images as well...

Vandal gets 3 JJC points for finally Kroxing a Zappa song I know, and for remedial algebra...

Krox gets a JJC point for reminding me of the discussion we once had in a high school class about YMCA being a gay song...

frank gets 3 JJC points for someone who was ready, and Murray Head's favorite actor...

Sprots gets 3 JJC points for the accurate Venn Diagram...

mrk gets 2 JJC points for a math tool I had to look up...

TBone gets a supermax for Pat Boone and Nancy Kerrigan...

Hottie gets 3 JJC points for learning how to copy off of other players' papers...

Bob gets a JJC point for not only getting the Hammer song title wrong, but not knowing it starts with a U...

Earl gets 3 JJC points for Chinese New Year and happy cats...


Points:

jarnon 12+2
Panic 23+2
Weasel 21+5+5
Vandal 19+3
ear 12
Krox 19+1
frank 24+3
Sprots 17+3
mrk 25+2
TBone 27+5
melly 21
Hottie 16+3
Bob 13+1
Earl 27+3