Apology from a two-time voter for Donny
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Dems et al, get over it. It's done. Focus on the crazies who, surprisingly, haven't gone away. Anarchy much?
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Y'all are hysterical. Bless your hearts.jaybee wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:22 pmProvide the quotes from Trump that said "break down the Capitol doors and storm in". He he said that, I'll agree with you.
And of course, you are absolutely correct, trump never said that. (To pull from some of the most common examples) He also didn't say, "Wear your military gear, and grab some zip tie cuffs as you storm inside the capitol" Or, "Kick in Pelosi's office door and pose for a photo op at her desk". Or, chant for his Vice President to be hunted down and hung. Or direct the mob to bash in the head of a police officer with a fire extinguisher. Or even acknowledge that a 'patriot' should wear a buffalo headdress. Nope, trump didn't say any of those things.
And if you think that means that he wasn't responsible for what ultimately happened on 1/6, you are fooling no-one but yourself.
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Are you saying that if the Republicans nominate him in 2024, you'd vote for the Democrat? Because unless an awful lot of Republicans say that, and mean it, then there's a very definite point to completing the impeachment process. --Bob
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I would never vote for a democrat, other than local. He will not be nominated, are you worried?
Nor would I vote 3rd party.
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Ha! Ya know, since I live here in the South I totally recognize the 'Bless your heart" routine as you really saying, "I've got nothing I can add here "
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Don't diss the tgirl. She's way smarter than most.
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Never gets old!tlynn78 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:56 amY'all are hysterical. Bless your hearts.jaybee wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:22 pmProvide the quotes from Trump that said "break down the Capitol doors and storm in". He he said that, I'll agree with you.
And of course, you are absolutely correct, trump never said that. (To pull from some of the most common examples) He also didn't say, "Wear your military gear, and grab some zip tie cuffs as you storm inside the capitol" Or, "Kick in Pelosi's office door and pose for a photo op at her desk". Or, chant for his Vice President to be hunted down and hung. Or direct the mob to bash in the head of a police officer with a fire extinguisher. Or even acknowledge that a 'patriot' should wear a buffalo headdress. Nope, trump didn't say any of those things.
And if you think that means that he wasn't responsible for what ultimately happened on 1/6, you are fooling no-one but yourself.
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So if the Republicans nominate Donny again, you'll vote for him? Or would you sit that one out?Beebs52 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:23 pmI would never vote for a democrat, other than local. He will not be nominated, are you worried?
Nor would I vote 3rd party.
Given how the Republican Party seems to be falling in line behind Donny, I think there's a very realistic chance that if he runs again he'll be renominated. A lot of people who would have opposed him in the past have left the Republican Party.
Look at what's happening in Arizona, where the State Republican Party officially censured its own Governor, among others, for refusing to alter the election results in Donny's favor. Look at the primary challenges lining up against any Republican officeholder who refused to fall into line with Donny. Look at how most of the House Republican Caucus, including its floor leader, voted to reject the results of a free and fair election.
The only way the Republican Party will ever be rid of Donny is for Republicans to send a loud, clear message that they will vote Democratic if necessary to prevent Donny or his acolytes from accumulating power. So the direction of your Party is up to you. --Bob
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Bob, chill out and stop making shit up. I think you hope Trump persists just to enable you to forge ahead in your anti-Republican rant. Give it the fuck up.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:09 pmSo if the Republicans nominate Donny again, you'll vote for him? Or would you sit that one out?
Given how the Republican Party seems to be falling in line behind Donny, I think there's a very realistic chance that if he runs again he'll be renominated. A lot of people who would have opposed him in the past have left the Republican Party.
Look at what's happening in Arizona, where the State Republican Party officially censured its own Governor, among others, for refusing to alter the election results in Donny's favor. Look at the primary challenges lining up against any Republican officeholder who refused to fall into line with Donny. Look at how most of the House Republican Caucus, including its floor leader, voted to reject the results of a free and fair election.
The only way the Republican Party will ever be rid of Donny is for Republicans to send a loud, clear message that they will vote Democratic if necessary to prevent Donny or his acolytes from accumulating power. So the direction of your Party is up to you. --Bob
Well, then
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What do you think I'm making up? My statements are both factual and easily verifiable. --BobBeebs52 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:15 pmBob, chill out and stop making shit up. I think you hope Trump persists just to enable you to forge ahead in your anti-Republican rant. Give it the fuck up.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:09 pmSo if the Republicans nominate Donny again, you'll vote for him? Or would you sit that one out?
Given how the Republican Party seems to be falling in line behind Donny, I think there's a very realistic chance that if he runs again he'll be renominated. A lot of people who would have opposed him in the past have left the Republican Party.
Look at what's happening in Arizona, where the State Republican Party officially censured its own Governor, among others, for refusing to alter the election results in Donny's favor. Look at the primary challenges lining up against any Republican officeholder who refused to fall into line with Donny. Look at how most of the House Republican Caucus, including its floor leader, voted to reject the results of a free and fair election.
The only way the Republican Party will ever be rid of Donny is for Republicans to send a loud, clear message that they will vote Democratic if necessary to prevent Donny or his acolytes from accumulating power. So the direction of your Party is up to you. --Bob
"Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." Thomas Jefferson
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Do you deny that you hope Trumpmania persists?Bob78164 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:20 pmWhat do you think I'm making up? My statements are both factual and easily verifiable. --BobBeebs52 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:15 pmBob, chill out and stop making shit up. I think you hope Trump persists just to enable you to forge ahead in your anti-Republican rant. Give it the fuck up.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:09 pmSo if the Republicans nominate Donny again, you'll vote for him? Or would you sit that one out?
Given how the Republican Party seems to be falling in line behind Donny, I think there's a very realistic chance that if he runs again he'll be renominated. A lot of people who would have opposed him in the past have left the Republican Party.
Look at what's happening in Arizona, where the State Republican Party officially censured its own Governor, among others, for refusing to alter the election results in Donny's favor. Look at the primary challenges lining up against any Republican officeholder who refused to fall into line with Donny. Look at how most of the House Republican Caucus, including its floor leader, voted to reject the results of a free and fair election.
The only way the Republican Party will ever be rid of Donny is for Republicans to send a loud, clear message that they will vote Democratic if necessary to prevent Donny or his acolytes from accumulating power. So the direction of your Party is up to you. --Bob
Well, then
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Not an answer to my question.
I have no idea what you mean by "Trumpmania." I want Donny permanently and formally barred from holding any federal office ever again. --Bob
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After a impeachment conviction, the Senate (by majority vote) can permanently bar the impeached official from ever again holding any office of trust or profit under the United States. That's why completing the process is important and appropriate. --Bob
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Eh.No. Bless yur heart. Waiting for wb.
It gets soooo old.
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Worry about your elected president. Get on with it.
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U.S. Const., art. I, sect. 3, cl. 7: "Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States . . . ."Beebs52 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:15 pmEh.No. Bless yur heart. Waiting for wb.
It gets soooo old.
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Blah. Do you have nothing else to stew about.
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And Donny needs to be held accountable, particularly since he remains capable of doing enormous damage. --Bob
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Nothing like the damage Dictator Joe is already doing.
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This, right here, is another problem. Doing things you don't like doesn't make President Biden a dictator. It makes him the winner with the right to exercise the powers of the Presidency. If you don't like what he's doing, persuade your fellow citizens to agree with you. Succeed often enough, and your side will win the next election. And if that happens, the losers on the Democratic side will respect the results.
What makes someone a dictator is trying to ignore or overturn the expressed will of the American electorate. --Bob
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Respect results? How funny 2016 much?Bob78164 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:23 pmThis, right here, is another problem. Doing things you don't like doesn't make President Biden a dictator. It makes him the winner with the right to exercise the powers of the Presidency. If you don't like what he's doing, persuade your fellow citizens to agree with you. Succeed often enough, and your side will win the next election. And if that happens, the losers on the Democratic side will respect the results.
What makes someone a dictator is trying to ignore or overturn the expressed will of the American electorate. --Bob
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No one ever claimed that Donny hadn't legally won the election. There is a difference between resolute and determined opposition to the manner in which he executed (or, more often, failed to execute) the office and sending an armed mob to the Capitol to try to interfere with certifying the election. --BobBeebs52 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:26 pmRespect results? How funny 2016 much?Bob78164 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:23 pmThis, right here, is another problem. Doing things you don't like doesn't make President Biden a dictator. It makes him the winner with the right to exercise the powers of the Presidency. If you don't like what he's doing, persuade your fellow citizens to agree with you. Succeed often enough, and your side will win the next election. And if that happens, the losers on the Democratic side will respect the results.
What makes someone a dictator is trying to ignore or overturn the expressed will of the American electorate. --Bob
"Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." Thomas Jefferson