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#1 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Mon May 12, 2008 7:49 pm

I really want to provoke a comment from Bix.


HOUSTON - Marche Taylor’s prom night experience wasn’t quite the norm. That’s because a night of dancing and hanging out with friends ended in a confrontation with school officials over her choice of apparel.

The Madison High School senior was escorted out in handcuffs because school officials said her revealing gold dress was inappropriate for the school prom.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent ... 846d8.html
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#2 Post by BackInTex » Mon May 12, 2008 7:53 pm

themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:I really want to provoke a comment from Bix.


HOUSTON - Marche Taylor’s prom night experience wasn’t quite the norm. That’s because a night of dancing and hanging out with friends ended in a confrontation with school officials over her choice of apparel.

The Madison High School senior was escorted out in handcuffs because school officials said her revealing gold dress was inappropriate for the school prom.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent ... 846d8.html

Madison High has a Bacalaurate Ho program. She was Valedictorian.
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#3 Post by kayrharris » Mon May 12, 2008 7:58 pm

Where in the heck are her parents? I wouldn't let my high school aged daughter leave the house in that dress.
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#4 Post by AnnieCamaro » Mon May 12, 2008 8:18 pm

Home School High School didn't have a prom for me, but I thought the girl's dress showed off her tattoos nicely.

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#5 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Mon May 12, 2008 8:29 pm

I'm gonna have to assume that the tattoos were homemade. It's illegal for a licensed tattoo shop to ink a 17 yr old
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#6 Post by Snaxx » Mon May 12, 2008 8:30 pm

Did they get her name? Edyta Sliwinska I guess.






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#7 Post by Snaxx » Mon May 12, 2008 8:35 pm

TheCalvinator24 wrote:I'm gonna have to assume that the tattoos were homemade. It's illegal for a licensed tattoo shop to ink a 17 yr old

It was in the news that Jordin Sparks got a tattoo for her 18th birthday. Now I know another reason (besides her parents for sure!) why she had to wait. However, she could still sing about tattoos when she was 17.







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#8 Post by PlacentiaSoccerMom » Tue May 13, 2008 6:31 am

I wonder what kind of world she lives in where she thinks that the dress was appropriate for a High School prom.

I do think that she should have been given the option of changing her clothes though.

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#9 Post by BackInTex » Tue May 13, 2008 6:37 am

PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:I wonder what kind of world she lives in where she thinks that the dress was appropriate for a High School prom.

I do think that she should have been given the option of changing her clothes though.
Reminds me of a Disney song....


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#10 Post by gsabc » Tue May 13, 2008 6:41 am

Of course it was appropriate for a prom. If it was a hooker outfit, there would be more of it.

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#11 Post by Bixby17 » Tue May 13, 2008 7:33 am

A few thoughts:

1. The title of this thread is tired.

2. Yes, this dress is wrong.

3. Where are her parents?

4. What's even wronger is that the news people think it is a good idea for this 17 year old girl to model her inappropriate dress repeatedly for the cameras for us to all point and giggle. You know, the whole, "Oh, isn't this awful for a girl to dress this way, so let's make sure we get lots of camera angles of her in this dress." She's 17. What's the news producer's excuse for playing Joe Francis?

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#12 Post by silvercamaro » Tue May 13, 2008 7:50 am

One thing seems to be glossed over by the newspaper and television stories. The girl wasn't "escorted out in handcuffs" simply because of the dress. After she was told she couldn't enter, she started arguing with school officials -- and her arguments became heated enough that somebody thought it necessary to call the police. The real issue was her behavior.

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#13 Post by MarleysGh0st » Tue May 13, 2008 8:02 am

silvercamaro wrote:One thing seems to be glossed over by the newspaper and television stories. The girl wasn't "escorted out in handcuffs" simply because of the dress. After she was told she couldn't enter, she started arguing with school officials -- and her arguments became heated enough that somebody thought it necessary to call the police. The real issue was her behavior.
Yeah, that was the point that got me to click on the link. Handcuffs for an inappropriate dress? :?

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#14 Post by kayrharris » Tue May 13, 2008 8:03 am

silvercamaro wrote:One thing seems to be glossed over by the newspaper and television stories. The girl wasn't "escorted out in handcuffs" simply because of the dress. After she was told she couldn't enter, she started arguing with school officials -- and her arguments became heated enough that somebody thought it necessary to call the police. The real issue was her behavior.


This is correct, however, that's not how the story reads. From TMITSS' original post:

"The Madison High School senior was escorted out in handcuffs because school officials said her revealing gold dress was inappropriate for the school prom."


Looks like the reporter could get the story straight.
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#15 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Tue May 13, 2008 8:34 am

If you watch the video, the young lady [ahem] is explaining what happened, and as she told about the exchange between her and the sponsor, the video cuts off because i think the girl used a word that the TV station didn't want to air. I am speculating as to what the word was, but from the context, it's pretty clear that her being forcibly removed had less to do with her dress than her belligerent attitude and probably inappropriate language.
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#16 Post by wintergreen48 » Tue May 13, 2008 9:46 am

TheCalvinator24 wrote:If you watch the video, the young lady [ahem] is explaining what happened, and as she told about the exchange between her and the sponsor, the video cuts off because i think the girl used a word that the TV station didn't want to air. I am speculating as to what the word was, but from the context, it's pretty clear that her being forcibly removed had less to do with her dress than her belligerent attitude and probably inappropriate language.
Well, I think that it was the terroristic threat that got her into trouble: note that in the interview the young lady [ahem] admits that she 'axed' the woman who would not let her enter the prom, and they were probably concerned that she would axe someone else. Although it is hard to see where she concealed her weapon.

What we really have here is a simple failure to communicate: the theme of the Prom was 'Hoe Down,' and the young lady [ahem] simply misunderstood.

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#17 Post by SportsFan68 » Tue May 13, 2008 9:52 am

There is no news here, there's only the sleaziness that passes for journalism in this country. I'll bet that hundreds of non-shocking-dress wearers were escorted from proms this year for belligerence or drinking or both -- no news, move along.

Remember that Calvin Klein miniskirt ad? It was soft porn, and I saw it in Newsweek. Bix hit it: What's even wronger is that the news people think it is a good idea for this 17 year old girl to model her inappropriate dress repeatedly for the cameras for us to all point and giggle. You know, the whole, "Oh, isn't this awful for a girl to dress this way, so let's make sure we get lots of camera angles of her in this dress."

I'm not complaining about soft porn, what I'm complaining about is that everybody who picked up a Newsweek that week was exposed to it, contributing to the general normalization of selling it with sex embedded in what's supposed to be news.

I wish they were all like Skoop, or at least that they paid one-half -- OK, one-quarter -- as much attention to ethics as she does. But they're not.
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