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#526 Post by silverscreenselect » Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:55 pm

There's incompetence and then there's ridiculous stupidity:
A house party in New Jersey was so packed with partygoers openly flouting the state's Covid-19 crowd guidelines this weekend that it took police officers over 5 hours to break it up. The bust occurred on Sunday at around 8:30 p.m., when police officers arrived at a house in Jackson that was being rented out through Airbnb, according to a statement by Captain Steven Laskiewicz posted on the Jackson Police Department's Facebook page.

Still, the party continued to grow, with the crowd surging to an estimated 700 people with well over 100 vehicles parked in the area, according to the statement.
It took police until 1 a.m. to fully clear the residence. The homeowner and two party organizers were each issued summons, the statement said.
This is New Jersey, which has done a very good job of stopping the spread of the virus. For a long time, NJ was second only to New York in numbers of cases and deaths, but it has slowed way down. Incidents like this won't help. I wish I understood how the entire civilized world seems to understand what needs to be done to get the virus under control to some extent and we don't. Are we going to spend the rest of the time until we get a vaccine just playing whack-a-mole with states getting better and then having outbreaks caused by idiots like these. I don't think these people were making a political statement; this was flat-out stupidity.

South Korea has been safely playing baseball for nearly three months, and Sunday, they let a few fans back in the stands (10% of capacity). They had 58 new cases of coronavirus on Sunday (there's been an uptick since they started opening up again, with 100 cases on Saturday). The population of South Korea is 52 million, so 100 new cases translates to the equivalent of 600-700 here. We had 56,000 yesterday. They have been safely playing baseball for three months. We couldn't get through one weekend without games being postponed.

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#527 Post by silverscreenselect » Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:11 am

GOP congressman who frequently refuses to wear a mask tests positive for Covid-19
Rep. Louie Gohmert, a Texas Republican, has tested positive for coronavirus. Gohmert has frequently refused to wear a mask while at the Capitol during the pandemic. He has spent ample time on the House floor during votes speaking to aides and lawmakers — without a mask or social distancing. His office did not respond to multiple requests for comment.

Gohmert had been scheduled to fly aboard Air Force One with President Trump to Midland, Texas, where he is fundraising and touring an oil rig. He tested positive for coronavirus on Wednesday morning during a pre-flight screening at the White House, a person familiar with the situation told CNN. Because of the positive test, Gohmert is not traveling with the President.

A senior Republican aide told CNN the test results have caused issues on the Hill, with “a lot of staffers” ordered to get tests before they can go to meetings and resume activity. Some are sequestering in their offices until they can get tested. Gohmert’s office notified Republican leaders, who notified House medical staff and the protocol kicked in for further notification, the GOP aide said. Politico first reported the news.

Gohmert told CNN last month that he didn’t wear a mask because he had been tested and he didn’t yet have the virus. “But if I get it, you’ll never see me without a mask,” he said. He is just one of several conservative Republicans who have pushed back on mask-wearing, sometimes causing tension during committee meetings.

During Tuesday’s hearing with Attorney General Bill Barr, House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler urged a handful of Republican members to keep their masks on. Gohmert was also present at the hearing. He was seen maskless outside the room near Barr at one point. The Justice Department told CNN Wednesday that Barr will get tested.
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#528 Post by Bob78164 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:51 am

silverscreenselect wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:11 am
GOP congressman who frequently refuses to wear a mask tests positive for Covid-19
Rep. Louie Gohmert, a Texas Republican, has tested positive for coronavirus. Gohmert has frequently refused to wear a mask while at the Capitol during the pandemic. He has spent ample time on the House floor during votes speaking to aides and lawmakers — without a mask or social distancing. His office did not respond to multiple requests for comment.

Gohmert had been scheduled to fly aboard Air Force One with President Trump to Midland, Texas, where he is fundraising and touring an oil rig. He tested positive for coronavirus on Wednesday morning during a pre-flight screening at the White House, a person familiar with the situation told CNN. Because of the positive test, Gohmert is not traveling with the President.

A senior Republican aide told CNN the test results have caused issues on the Hill, with “a lot of staffers” ordered to get tests before they can go to meetings and resume activity. Some are sequestering in their offices until they can get tested. Gohmert’s office notified Republican leaders, who notified House medical staff and the protocol kicked in for further notification, the GOP aide said. Politico first reported the news.

Gohmert told CNN last month that he didn’t wear a mask because he had been tested and he didn’t yet have the virus. “But if I get it, you’ll never see me without a mask,” he said. He is just one of several conservative Republicans who have pushed back on mask-wearing, sometimes causing tension during committee meetings.

During Tuesday’s hearing with Attorney General Bill Barr, House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler urged a handful of Republican members to keep their masks on. Gohmert was also present at the hearing. He was seen maskless outside the room near Barr at one point. The Justice Department told CNN Wednesday that Barr will get tested.
It gets worse. According to one of his aides, "Louie requires full staff to be in the office, including three interns, so that ‘we could be an example to America on how to open up safely.’ When probing the office, you might want to ask how often were people berated for wearing masks."

A microcosm of bosses across the country who choose to endanger their workers' health and lives.

Reports are emerging, by the way, that even mild infections of COVID-19 result in cardiac damage. --Bob
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#529 Post by silverscreenselect » Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:42 am

A harsh lesson in the reality of COVID-19
Imagine the sound and vibration of an old-fashioned electric heater going through your whole body. Imagine gasping for air with every step you take. Imagine rubbing Icy Hot all over your head to soothe a painful headache. Imagine your eyes in a bowl of water while you’re still seeing through them. Imagine collapsing and waking up in the ER only to find out COVID-19 attacked your central nervous system, and the doctor had just saved you from a stroke. If that were the worst of it, it would be bad enough. But that’s not the worst of it. This is the story of one family’s harrowing fight with COVID-19.

I admit I voted for Donald Trump in 2016. I admit traveling deep into the conspiracy trap over COVID-19. All the defiant behavior of Trump’s more radical and rowdy cult followers, I participated in it. I was a hard-ass that stood up for my “God-given rights.” In great haste, I began prognosticating the alphabet soup about this “scamdemic.” I believed the virus to be a hoax. I believed the mainstream media and the Democrats were using it to create panic, crash the economy and destroy Trump’s chances at re-election. And so, believing the pandemic to be a hoax, my partner and I hosted family members on Saturday, June 13. On Sunday, June 14, I woke up sick.

By Monday, June 15, my partner and my parents were all sick. That same Monday, my in-laws traveled to witness the birth of their first grandchild. They took with them my father-in-law’s mother and one of my partner’s sisters. That night my father-in-law became ill. Then my mother-in-law and their daughter began feeling sick. So they cut their trip short. Two days later, my father-in-law’s mother got sick. The new mommy and daddy got sick, too. We all tested positive for COVID-19. Only the newborn was spared. My father-in-law and I both went to the hospital on June 24. The virus had attacked my central nervous system, and the staff stopped me from having a stroke. My father-in-law’s mother was admitted a day later. On July 1, she died of COVID-19/pneumonia.

You cannot imagine the guilt I feel, knowing that I hosted the gathering that led to so much suffering. You cannot imagine my guilt at having been a denier, carelessly shuffling through this pandemic, making fun of those wearing masks and social distancing. You cannot imagine my guilt at knowing that my actions convinced both our families it was safe when it wasn’t. For those who deny the virus exists or who downplay its severity, let me assure you: The coronavirus is very real and extremely contagious. Before you even know you have it, you’ve passed it along to your friends, family, coworkers and neighbors.

The next time you’re put out because your favorite spots are closed or because they won’t let you enter without wearing a mask, and you decide to defy them rather than comply because you’re defending your rights and freedoms from being trampled, just remember: Your family and friends may be next. Is that too harsh? Try imagining someone you care about on life support. Now imagine one more thing: That pool party, the mixer or family reunion you’re pushing for resulting in you being cold and alone in a hospital bed, fighting for your life. Imagine the only human contact you feel is a stranger’s rubber glove giving you medication, checking your vitals and changing your diaper. That is exactly what has happened to our family.

America, this is not going to go away without sacrifice. Either way, we are going to pay a price. Governments are faced with making difficult decisions, and they cannot appease and satisfy everyone. But to do nothing is to be foolish. To ignore or question the validity of this virus, its contagiousness or the consequences of selfish attitudes is — at this stage — completely stupid. I am calling myself out first, but now this is personal, and I fell on my sword. And I promise you, if we continue being more worried about the disruption to our lives than we are about stopping this virus, not one American will be spared. Not one.
I'd just add that the author says that on the day he was admitted to the hospital, he received treatment without which he might have died from a stroke. He appears to be a man in his 30s. There are probably a lot of other people who don't go to the hospital just in time and have their deaths attributed to stroke or other non-COVID causes, so they don't show up in the "official" death count.
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#530 Post by silverscreenselect » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:07 pm

There have been 260 confirmed cases of coronavirus out of 600 attendees and staff members at a YMCA summer camp in North Georgia in June. The attendees were aged 7-14 and the staff members 14-22. The camp followed the governor's guidelines but not the more stringent CDC guidelines regarding masking of the attendees and improved ventilation. Our governor believes he is smarter than the doctors regarding the coronavirus and 4,000 new cases a day keep proving him wrong. Just think what the numbers will be in a few weeks if we open up the schools.

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#531 Post by silverscreenselect » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:04 am

Not conclusive but scary; the comes from a reputable German medical journal. 78 out of 100 German recovered coronavirus patients showed noticeable damage to their hearts. This tracks with (and is more severe than) an earlier Chinese study):

Study shows most recovered Covid-19 patients left with heart damage
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#532 Post by jaybee » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:30 pm

I just got back from a trip to Walmart. Our county, and all Walmarts have a mandatory mask policy. I overheard this from one of the trio of non-mask wearing people at the register next to me: "You can take your mask off once you get into the store. Nobody ain't gonna do nothing to you"

We are a nation of fucking morons.
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#533 Post by silverscreenselect » Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:56 am

Leelanau County, MI, Road Commissioner Tom Eckerle, when asked by a colleague to wear a mask at a public meeting of the Commission:
Well, this whole thing is because of them [N-word]s in Detroit. I can say anything I want. Black Lives Matter has everything to do with taking the country away from us.
In a later radio interview:
I don’t regret calling it an [N-word]. A [N-word] is a [N-word] is a [N-word]. That’s not a person whatsoever.
The Road Commission is an elected office in Michigan. The other commissioners have called on Eckerle to resign, and he has refused.
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#534 Post by silverscreenselect » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:09 pm

The sheriff of Marion County, FL (the central Florida county where Ocala is located), just issued an order prohibiting employees and visitors from wearing masks. If someone enters the office wearing a mask, they will be asked to leave. (There are exceptions for on-duty officers going to schools, hospitals and similar places). This happened one day after Marion County reported the highest number of COVID deaths to date.

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