My thoughts on impeachment

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Re: My thoughts on impeachment

#51 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:04 pm

Estonut wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:35 pm
Where's the coercion?
Where's the "request to invent dirt?"
From Vindman's testimony:
On July 10, 2019, Oleksandr Danylyuk, then Ukraine’s National Security Advisor, visited Washington, D.C. for a meeting with National Security Advisor Bolton. Ambassadors Volker and Sondland and Secretary Rick Perry also attended the meeting. I attended the meeting with Dr. Hill. Volodymyr Zelensky was elected President of Ukraine in a landslide victory on a unity, reform, and anti-corruption platform.

We fully anticipated the Ukrainians would raise the issue of a meeting between the two presidents. Ambassador Bolton cut the meeting short when Ambassador Sondland started to speak about the requirement that Ukraine deliver specific investigations in order to secure the meeting with President Trump.

Following this meeting, there was a short debriefing during which Amb. Sondland emphasized the importance of Ukraine delivering the investigations into the 2016 election, the Bidens, and Burisma. I stated to Ambassador Sondland that this was inappropriate and had nothing to do with national security. Dr. Hill also asserted his comments were improper. Following the meeting Dr. Hill and I had agreed to report the incident to the NSC’s lead counsel, Mr. John Eisenberg.
There's a lot more if you care to actually read the testimony from the various witnesses. But if you want to pretend that a doctored memorandum of the transcript is the be all and end all of Trump's actions with regard to Ukraine, then you're right.
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Re: My thoughts on impeachment

#52 Post by jarnon » Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:07 pm

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Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:19 am
Meanwhile, the Supreme Court will decide the limits of executive privilege in 2020. That could determine whether Bolton and Mulvaney testify.
I hope Mulvaney testifies.

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Then the next day, new FEMA director Peter Gaynor should testify about the altered weather map.

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Re: My thoughts on impeachment

#53 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:16 pm

I hope the bidens and schiff testify.
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Re: My thoughts on impeachment

#54 Post by Bob Juch » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:13 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:16 pm
I hope the bidens and schiff testify.
I'm not sure what evidence they have against trump. Do you know?
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Re: My thoughts on impeachment

#55 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:26 pm

Bob Juch wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:13 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:16 pm
I hope the bidens and schiff testify.
I'm not sure what evidence they have against trump. Do you know?
Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot. Of course the falsely accused doesn't get a defense. Silly me.
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Re: My thoughts on impeachment

#56 Post by Bob Juch » Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:56 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:26 pm
Bob Juch wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:13 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:16 pm
I hope the bidens and schiff testify.
I'm not sure what evidence they have against trump. Do you know?
Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot. Of course the falsely accused doesn't get a defense. Silly me.
They'd all be hostile witnesses.
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