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Out of Donny's own mouth: If foreign governments offered his campaign dirt on political rivals, he'd listen. And he wouldn't necessarily report it to the FBI. --Bob

Would that be not as bad or would it be worse than say, paying foreign agents to create false opposition research.

Asking for a friend.

Bob78164 wrote:Out of Donny's own mouth: If foreign governments offered his campaign dirt on political rivals, he'd listen. And he wouldn't necessarily report it to the FBI. --Bob

I'm sitting by the Batphone waiting for my instructions about how to spin this ...

BackInTex wrote:Would that be not as bad or would it be worse than say, paying foreign agents to create false opposition research.

Asking for a friend.

Doesn't really matter because that never happened. --Bob

Bob78164 wrote:

BackInTex wrote:Would that be not as bad or would it be worse than say, paying foreign agents to create false opposition research.

Asking for a friend.

Doesn't really matter because that never happened. --Bob

Guess we may find out.

Bob78164 wrote:

BackInTex wrote:Would that be not as bad or would it be worse than say, paying foreign agents to create false opposition research.

Asking for a friend.

Doesn't really matter because that never happened. --Bob

Just like there is no crisis at the southern border. Got it.

Your alternate realities will be the death of your party.

BackInTex wrote: Your alternate realities will be the death of your party.

Tell that to your new Congressperson.

BackInTex wrote:

Bob78164 wrote:

BackInTex wrote:Would that be not as bad or would it be worse than say, paying foreign agents to create false opposition research.

Asking for a friend.

Doesn't really matter because that never happened. --Bob

Just like there is no crisis at the southern border. Got it.

Your alternate realities will be the death of your party.

Maybe that's the cancer Gropin' Joe is going to cure: the Dem Party!

tlynn78 wrote: Maybe that's the cancer Gropin' Joe is going to cure: the Dem Party!

For someone from the party of Donald Trump and Greg Gianforte to refer to "Gropin' Joe" is rather humorous.

silverscreenselect wrote:

tlynn78 wrote: Maybe that's the cancer Gropin' Joe is going to cure: the Dem Party!

For someone from the party of Donald Trump and Greg Gianforte to refer to "Gropin' Joe" is rather humorous.

Yes. It is. Back atcha.

And Senator Blackburn doesn't want a law that would require him to report such a contact to the FBI. --Bob

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I regret I didnt know about Christopher Steele's hiring pre-election. If I had, I would have volunteered to go to Europe and try to help him

Ellen L Weintraub wrote:I would not have thought that I needed to say this.

And despite what Lindsey Graham, BackInTex and Beebs52 would have us believe, there's a big difference legally between hiring a foreigner to do opposition research and accepting information for free from a foreign government.

jarnon wrote:

Ellen L Weintraub wrote:I would not have thought that I needed to say this.

And despite what Lindsey Graham, BackInTex and Beebs52 would have us believe, there's a big difference legally between hiring a foreigner to do opposition research and accepting information for free from a foreign government.

It's even more attenuated than that. Secretary Clinton's campaign hired an American company to perform opposition research against Donny (the same company that some Republicans had hired for the same purpose). That company, not the campaign, hired a foreign private citizen to perform some of the work. --Bob

Bob78164 wrote:Out of Donny's own mouth: If foreign governments offered his campaign dirt on political rivals, he'd listen. And he wouldn't necessarily report it to the FBI.

Way to pick and choose from your own article to support your views. The article has additional context which refutes your assertions here, too. Perhaps you weren't mistaken about "fine people on both sides." Maybe that's just how you operate.

Bob78164 wrote:

jarnon wrote:

Ellen L Weintraub wrote:I would not have thought that I needed to say this.

And despite what Lindsey Graham, BackInTex and Beebs52 would have us believe, there's a big difference legally between hiring a foreigner to do opposition research and accepting information for free from a foreign government.

It's even more attenuated than that. Secretary Clinton's campaign hired an American company to perform opposition research against Donny (the same company that some Republicans had hired for the same purpose). That company, not the campaign, hired a foreign private citizen to perform some of the work. --Bob

No one is talking about contributions. Read your source material.

Beebs52 wrote:

Bob78164 wrote:

jarnon wrote: And despite what Lindsey Graham, BackInTex and Beebs52 would have us believe, there's a big difference legally between hiring a foreigner to do opposition research and accepting information for free from a foreign government.

It's even more attenuated than that. Secretary Clinton's campaign hired an American company to perform opposition research against Donny (the same company that some Republicans had hired for the same purpose). That company, not the campaign, hired a foreign private citizen to perform some of the work. --Bob

No one is talking about contributions. Read your source material.

Opposition research in the form of "dirt" on your opponents is a thing of value, and therefore is a contribution.

Why are you okay with any American politician accepting help of any form from a hostile foreign government? Has partisanship made you that blind to patriotism? I know it's done so for Congressional Republicans because they've had years to do something about it but they've decided to sit on their hands, but you're not in Congress. --Bob

Bob78164 wrote:

Beebs52 wrote:

Bob78164 wrote:It's even more attenuated than that. Secretary Clinton's campaign hired an American company to perform opposition research against Donny (the same company that some Republicans had hired for the same purpose). That company, not the campaign, hired a foreign private citizen to perform some of the work. --Bob

No one is talking about contributions. Read your source material.

Opposition research in the form of "dirt" on your opponents is a thing of value, and therefore is a contribution.

Why are you okay with any American politician accepting help of any form from a hostile foreign government? Has partisanship made you that blind to patriotism? I know it's done so for Congressional Republicans because they've had years to do something about it but they've decided to sit on their hands, but you're not in Congress. --Bob

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Why are you okay with it? Trump's statement was hypothetical. And if you think politcians haven't gotten info since at least Jfk days...risible much?

Bob78164 wrote:

BackInTex wrote:Would that be not as bad or would it be worse than say, paying foreign agents to create false opposition research.

Asking for a friend.

Doesn't really matter because that never happened. --Bob

Well darn. Lets have 2 years of investigation on it by a bunch of republican partisans and still claim it happened after the investigation finds no proof that it did happen. That'll be fun!

Beebs52 wrote:

Bob78164 wrote:

Beebs52 wrote: No one is talking about contributions. Read your source material.

Opposition research in the form of "dirt" on your opponents is a thing of value, and therefore is a contribution.

Why are you okay with any American politician accepting help of any form from a hostile foreign government? Has partisanship made you that blind to patriotism? I know it's done so for Congressional Republicans because they've had years to do something about it but they've decided to sit on their hands, but you're not in Congress. --Bob

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Why are you okay with it? Trump's statement was hypothetical. And if you think politcians haven't gotten info since at least Jfk days...risible much?

There was nothing hypothetical about his conduct. Mueller found that the campaign knew that Russia was actively supporting it and was more than happy to accept the support. Now he says he’d do it again. But that’s only a crime if you conspire to get that support, and that’s what Mueller didn’t think he could prove beyond a reasonable doubt.

So you’re absolutely okay with a candidate for President knowingly accepting help from a hostile foreign government as long as he’s on your team. That’s pretty close to the definition of “party over country,” and that’s why I will remain a yellow dog Democrat until and unless the Republican Party regains its sanity. Instead, it looks like the Party is prepared to purge anyone who, like Justin Amash, shows an ounce of patriotism. —Bob

"There was no collusion but I'd do it again."

jarnon wrote:

Ellen L Weintraub wrote:I would not have thought that I needed to say this.

And despite what Lindsey Graham, BackInTex and Beebs52 would have us believe, there's a big difference legally between hiring a foreigner to do opposition research and accepting information for free from a foreign government.

Does your BS detector not work on Democrats? You don't find anything suspect about this "statement?" Why would she have released this without her signature at the bottom? Why does it NOT appear on the FEC website under either "News and announcements" nor Home › About the FEC › Leadership and Structure › All Commissioners › Ellen L. Weintraub? The first page is the "news and announcements" link, right off their homepage. The second one is her FEC biography page, which has links to TONS of articles, but not this one.

Estonut wrote:

jarnon wrote:

Ellen L Weintraub wrote:I would not have thought that I needed to say this.

And despite what Lindsey Graham, BackInTex and Beebs52 would have us believe, there's a big difference legally between hiring a foreigner to do opposition research and accepting information for free from a foreign government.

Does your BS detector not work on Democrats? You don't find anything suspect about this "statement?" Why would she have released this without her signature at the bottom? Why does it NOT appear on the FEC website under either "News and announcements" nor Home › About the FEC › Leadership and Structure › All Commissioners › Ellen L. Weintraub? The first page is the "news and announcements" link, right off their homepage. The second one is her FEC biography page, which has links to TONS of articles, but not this one.

Are you claiming that Commissioner Weintraub didn't actually make this statement? --Bob

Estonut wrote:Does your BS detector not work on Democrats? You don't find anything suspect about this "statement?" Why would she have released this without her signature at the bottom? Why does it NOT appear on the FEC website under either "News and announcements" nor Home › About the FEC › Leadership and Structure › All Commissioners › Ellen L. Weintraub? The first page is the "news and announcements" link, right off their homepage. The second one is her FEC biography page, which has links to TONS of articles, but not this one.

This is from her verified Twitter account. I'm sure the FEC website will catch up.