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Pittsburgh synagogue shooting

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 10:27 am
by Bob78164
At least eight are dead in a shooting at a Pittsburgh synagogue. The shooter apparently rushed in and began firing indiscriminately, yelling, "All Jews must die!"

Any bets on how long Donny waits before resuming his race-baiting? --Bob

Re: Pittsburgh synagogue shooting

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:19 am
by BackInTex
Bob78164 wrote:At least eight are dead in a shooting at a Pittsburgh synagogue. The shooter apparently rushed in and began firing indiscriminately, yelling, "All Jews must die!"

Any bets on how long Donny waits before resuming his race-baiting? --Bob
I was going to bet on how long a Bob, any Bob, would wait until bringing politics into this. But I was too late. Shame on you.

Re: Pittsburgh synagogue shooting

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:21 am
by Bob78164
BackInTex wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:At least eight are dead in a shooting at a Pittsburgh synagogue. The shooter apparently rushed in and began firing indiscriminately, yelling, "All Jews must die!"

Any bets on how long Donny waits before resuming his race-baiting? --Bob
I was going to bet on how long a Bob, any Bob, would wait until bringing politics into this. But I was too late. Shame on you.
I don't think it's a coincidence that these incidents have been on the rise. And I think the guy who called neo-Nazi sympathizers "very fine people" bears some of the responsibility for a mass shooting that targeted Jews. Maybe not as much as the elected legislators who refuse to enact anything remotely approaching sensible gun legislation, and certainly not as much as the guy who pulled the trigger, but enough to deserve being called out for the consequences of his rhetoric. --Bob

Re: Pittsburgh synagogue shooting

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:44 am
by silverscreenselect
And while we're on the subject, we almost had a similar incident a week ago. Instead, he wound up going to a Kroger.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/26/us/kentu ... index.html

But let's not forget that left wing mob that disturbed Mitch McConnell's lunch.

Re: Pittsburgh synagogue shooting

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:38 pm
by jarnon
I’m appalled by this murder and don’t want to politicize it. But (returning to yesterday’s headline) Trump shouldn’t condemn Soros as a globalist (right-wing insult of liberal Jews) just days after Soros gets a pile bomb.

Re: Pittsburgh synagogue shooting

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:43 pm
by a1mamacat
jarnon wrote:I’m appalled by this murder and don’t want to politicize it. But (returning to yesterday’s headline) Trump shouldn’t condemn Soros as a globalist (right-wing insult of liberal Jews) just days after Soros gets a pile bomb.
Man, I think that a bomb in your piles would really hurt.

Re: Pittsburgh synagogue shooting

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:13 pm
by ghostjmf
Saucy:

It didn't go off.

Unlike the Krogers & Pittsburgh killers.

I'm still alive so Mr. Pittsburgh-Jew-killer hasn't finished his work yet..

Honestly, if I'm going to be killed, I'd like it to be by someone who hates my guts for some reason, not by someone who picks out a whole ethnic/racial/whatever group they hate.

Re: Pittsburgh synagogue shooting

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:56 pm
by BackInTex
Bob78164 wrote:
BackInTex wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:At least eight are dead in a shooting at a Pittsburgh synagogue. The shooter apparently rushed in and began firing indiscriminately, yelling, "All Jews must die!"

Any bets on how long Donny waits before resuming his race-baiting? --Bob
I was going to bet on how long a Bob, any Bob, would wait until bringing politics into this. But I was too late. Shame on you.
I don't think it's a coincidence that these incidents have been on the rise. And I think the guy who called neo-Nazi sympathizers "very fine people" bears some of the responsibility for a mass shooting that targeted Jews. Maybe not as much as the elected legislators who refuse to enact anything remotely approaching sensible gun legislation, and certainly not as much as the guy who pulled the trigger, but enough to deserve being called out for the consequences of his rhetoric. --Bob
Who called neo-Nazi sympathizers "very fine people"? Trump didn't. And you know it.

Still, shame on you. First post about this tragedy and you make it political.

Re: Pittsburgh synagogue shooting

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:56 pm
by BackInTex
But I will say this....this shooter has much in common with Bob#s. Bob#s can be defined for his hate of Trump. So can this guy. They are on the same team.

Re: Pittsburgh synagogue shooting

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:10 pm
by ghostjmf
BiT: You have evidence of Bob shooting people? Gee.

Re: Pittsburgh synagogue shooting

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:24 pm
by BackInTex
ghostjmf wrote:BiT: You have evidence of Bob shooting people? Gee.

Did I say he shot somebody? Gee

Re: Pittsburgh synagogue shooting

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:28 pm
by Beebs52
jarnon wrote:I’m appalled by this murder and don’t want to politicize it. But (returning to yesterday’s headline) Trump shouldn’t condemn Soros as a globalist (right-wing insult of liberal Jews) just days after Soros gets a pile bomb.
Why is globalist automatically "liberal Jews"? Most people don't know nor care whether Soros is Jewish. Very odd statement.

Re: Pittsburgh synagogue shooting

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:11 pm
by jarnon
Beebs52 wrote:Why is globalist automatically "liberal Jews"? Most people don't know nor care whether Soros is Jewish. Very odd statement.
This article explains why labels like “globalist” are troublesome.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... mb-attacks

Like you, most American politicians are probably unaware of the connotation. (That’s not the case in his native Hungary.). I hope they become educated and use more appropriate insults.

Re: Pittsburgh synagogue shooting

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:25 pm
by BackInTex
jarnon wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:Why is globalist automatically "liberal Jews"? Most people don't know nor care whether Soros is Jewish. Very odd statement.
This article explains why labels like “globalist” are troublesome.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... mb-attacks

Like you, most American politicians are probably unaware of the connotation. (That’s not the case in his native Hungary.). I hope they become educated and use more appropriate insults.
That’s BS. People don’t dislike Soros because he’s Jewish, it’s in spite of it. He is dangerous to our country.

Re: Pittsburgh synagogue shooting

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:26 pm
by Beebs52
jarnon wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:Why is globalist automatically "liberal Jews"? Most people don't know nor care whether Soros is Jewish. Very odd statement.
This article explains why labels like “globalist” are troublesome.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... mb-attacks

Like you, most American politicians are probably unaware of the connotation. (That’s not the case in his native Hungary.). I hope they become educated and use more appropriate insults.
Guardian is a biased news source and doesn't make your case.

Re: Pittsburgh synagogue shooting

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:29 pm
by Beebs52

Re: Pittsburgh synagogue shooting

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:37 pm
by ghostjmf
BiT: oops, getting your heroes & what they've done mixed up. Bob hasn't sent anybody pipe bombs either.

Re: Pittsburgh synagogue shooting

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:00 pm
by Bob78164
jarnon wrote:I’m appalled by this murder and don’t want to politicize it. But (returning to yesterday’s headline) Trump shouldn’t condemn Soros as a globalist (right-wing insult of liberal Jews) just days after Soros gets a pile bomb.
To paraphrase Florida's next governor, Donny may not be a racist, but the racists sure think he is. --Bob

Re: Pittsburgh synagogue shooting

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:06 pm
by BackInTex
Bob78164 wrote:Donny may not be a racist, but the racists sure think he is. --Bob
Another group you admit to being like minded with you. Who’d thunk?

Re: Pittsburgh synagogue shooting

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:03 pm
by silverscreenselect
BackInTex wrote: That’s BS. People don’t dislike Soros because he’s Jewish, it’s in spite of it. He is dangerous to our country.
Some people do hate Soros because he's Jewish and part of the international Jewish conspiracy in their minds.
The far right has ecstatically embraced the spectacle of elected political figures such as Trump and [Congressman Matt] Gaetz theorizing about Soros. After Trump’s Soros tweet about Kavanaugh, the neo-Nazi website the Daily Stormer echoed and surpassed Trump’s assertion that anti-Kavanaugh dissent was a nefarious, paid-for plot. “It is impossible to deny that subversive anti-American Jews were the primary force involved in a sinister plot to destroy Kavanaugh,” Lee Rogers wrote on the site a couple of days later. “These Jews do not represent the interest of America. They represent the interest of their diabolical and evil race first and foremost.”

In response to an Oct. 19 Trump speech in Missoula, Mont., in which Trump again suggested that protesters were paid by “Soros or somebody,” a commenter on anonymous message board 4chan exulted, “TRUMP NAMED THE IMMIGRATION JEW.” (“Naming the Jew” is an anti-Semitic term that refers to pointing out purported nefarious Jewish influence on world events.)

The conspiracy theories around Soros, then, aren’t just expressions of bitter partisanship — and fact-checking-focused debunking that’s tempered coverage of the claims that he was involved in the caravan has skipped past an important subtext. Soros’s Jewish heritage is well known — his experiences in the Holocaust formed his identity as a philanthropist, in a decades-long effort to beat back a revanchist right. And his name has become a synonym for a well-worn anti-Semitic canard: the idea that Jews are malevolent fomenters of social dissent, agitators slyly funding and masterminding protest, seeking to undermine a white, Christian social order. It is a canard that resonates not just in European history, where the deadly consequences of anti-Semitic conspiracies are well-known, but throughout American history, and its renewed form draws on a long tradition of American anti-Semitism.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... f62266c9af

And given every opportunity to act presidential, Trump acts petty and partisan and continues to fan the flames that breed dangerous idiots like these shooters and bombers.

Instead, he continues to blame the media for the violence because they've been unfair to him and now suggests that the synagogue should have had armed guards (rather than extend any sympathy towards the victims and their families).

Re: Pittsburgh synagogue shooting

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:59 am
by BackInTex
silverscreenselect wrote: And given every opportunity to act presidential, Trump acts petty and partisan and continues to fan the flames that breed dangerous idiots like these shooters and bombers.
I said the same thing about Obama. We, unfortunately, are both right.

Re: Pittsburgh synagogue shooting

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:53 am
by jarnon
Joyce Fienberg, 75
Richard Gottfried,65
Jerry Rabinowitz, 66
Cecil Rosenthal, 59
David Rosenthal, 54
Bernice Simon, 84
Sylvan Simon, 86
Daniel Stein, 71
Melvin Wax, 88
Rose Malinger, 97
Irving Younger, 69

Peace be upon them.

Re: Pittsburgh synagogue shooting

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:14 am
by Beebs52
Amen

Re: Pittsburgh synagogue shooting

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:32 am
by Bob78164
BackInTex wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote: And given every opportunity to act presidential, Trump acts petty and partisan and continues to fan the flames that breed dangerous idiots like these shooters and bombers.
I said the same thing about Obama. We, unfortunately, are both right.
That is a disgusting calumny. The only thing President Obama did to fan the flames that stoke violence was to be a black man who had the audacity to get himself elected President of the United States. He showed tolerance, compassion, and respect for his political opponents, even those whose avowed mission was to make him a one-term President by opposing anything and everything he attempted to accomplish, even things they used to support.

Comparing President Obama to Donny is delusional. --Bob

Re: Pittsburgh synagogue shooting

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:36 am
by Bob78164
In this case, by the way, there's a pretty clear link between Donny's rhetoric and the shooter's motives:
Robert Bowers wrote:HIAS likes to bring invaders in that kill our people. I can't sit by and watch my people get slaughtered. Screw your optics, I'm going in.
(Emphasis added.) HIAS is a refugee agency. --Bob