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I guess that's one way to make sure Ted Cruz wins

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:26 pm
by Bob78164
The Administration is pulling passports and refusing entry to a number of United States citizens who were born in the Rio Grande Valley. --Bob

Re: I guess that's one way to make sure Ted Cruz wins

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:35 pm
by Beebs52
Bless ur heart.

Re: I guess that's one way to make sure Ted Cruz wins

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:40 pm
by Beebs52
https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes. ... utType=amp

Where was your post during the previous administration?

Re: I guess that's one way to make sure Ted Cruz wins

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:15 pm
by Bob78164
Beebs52 wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes. ... utType=amp

Where was your post during the previous administration?
Kevin Sieff wrote:A 2009 government settlement in a case litigated by the American Civil Liberties Union seemed like it had mostly put an end to the passport denials. Attorneys reported that the number of denials declined during the rest of the Obama administration, and the government settled promptly when people filed complaints after being denied passports.
In any event, that response is classic whataboutism.

But it turns out this is another case of Donny reversing an Obama policy. This one reversal is directly harming American citizens. --Bob

Re: I guess that's one way to make sure Ted Cruz wins

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:27 pm
by Beebs52
Bob78164 wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes. ... utType=amp

Where was your post during the previous administration?
Kevin Sieff wrote:A 2009 government settlement in a case litigated by the American Civil Liberties Union seemed like it had mostly put an end to the passport denials. Attorneys reported that the number of denials declined during the rest of the Obama administration, and the government settled promptly when people filed complaints after being denied passports.
In any event, that response is classic whataboutism.

But it turns out this is another case of Donny reversing an Obama policy. This one reversal is directly harming American citizens. --Bob
You are so predictable. I offered no opinion on the policy itself. Only your magically au courant CONCERN that didn't exist before you could apply your timely CONCERN during the hated Trump administration. And to slip in some weird shot at Cruz. Very chuckle-inducing.

Re: I guess that's one way to make sure Ted Cruz wins

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:26 pm
by Spock
Beebs52 wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes. ... utType=amp

Where was your post during the previous administration?
Kevin Sieff wrote:A 2009 government settlement in a case litigated by the American Civil Liberties Union seemed like it had mostly put an end to the passport denials. Attorneys reported that the number of denials declined during the rest of the Obama administration, and the government settled promptly when people filed complaints after being denied passports.
In any event, that response is classic whataboutism.

But it turns out this is another case of Donny reversing an Obama policy. This one reversal is directly harming American citizens. --Bob
You are so predictable. I offered no opinion on the policy itself. Only your magically au courant CONCERN that didn't exist before you could apply your timely CONCERN during the hated Trump administration. And to slip in some weird shot at Cruz. Very chuckle-inducing.
But Beebs, you committed "Classic Whataboutism." That means you automatically lost the discussion/argument/whatever.

I think it is kind of Bob#'s corollary to Godwin's Law. If you are accused of Classic Whataboutism that means you lost the debate.

Re: I guess that's one way to make sure Ted Cruz wins

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:38 pm
by BackInTex
Typical rag/BS reporting.
appear to be surging
seeing these kind of cases skyrocketing
Yet, no actual numbers to qualify what "skyrocketing" means. Was 10 a year, now 15. A 50% "surge"?
In a case last August,
Last August? August 2017? Trump hadn't even had a chance to make his changes. That would be under the Obama process still.
I’ve had probably 20 people who have been sent to the detention center
"Probabaly"? 20 over what time period?
The Trump administration is accusing hundreds, and possibly thousands
If you don't know if it's thousands, how do you know its hundreds? And how many of the "hundreds" are carry-overs from the prior administration?

Lots of questions.

Re: I guess that's one way to make sure Ted Cruz wins

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:40 pm
by BackInTex

Re: I guess that's one way to make sure Ted Cruz wins

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:53 pm
by Beebs52
Spock wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:In any event, that response is classic whataboutism.

But it turns out this is another case of Donny reversing an Obama policy. This one reversal is directly harming American citizens. --Bob
You are so predictable. I offered no opinion on the policy itself. Only your magically au courant CONCERN that didn't exist before you could apply your timely CONCERN during the hated Trump administration. And to slip in some weird shot at Cruz. Very chuckle-inducing.
But Beebs, you committed "Classic Whataboutism." That means you automatically lost the discussion/argument/whatever.

I think it is kind of Bob#'s corollary to Godwin's Law. If you are accused of Classic Whataboutism that means you lost the debate.
See this is where I forget. Does it have to be actual whataboutism or just accused of it in order to be threadless worthy. What to do what to do.

Re: I guess that's one way to make sure Ted Cruz wins

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:13 am
by flockofseagulls104
Beebs52 wrote:
Spock wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:
You are so predictable. I offered no opinion on the policy itself. Only your magically au courant CONCERN that didn't exist before you could apply your timely CONCERN during the hated Trump administration. And to slip in some weird shot at Cruz. Very chuckle-inducing.
But Beebs, you committed "Classic Whataboutism." That means you automatically lost the discussion/argument/whatever.

I think it is kind of Bob#'s corollary to Godwin's Law. If you are accused of Classic Whataboutism that means you lost the debate.
See this is where I forget. Does it have to be actual whataboutism or just accused of it in order to be threadless worthy. What to do what to do.
I once committed Impressionistic Whataboutism. My brain hurt for almost 2 weeks. I'll stick to Post-Modern Whataboutism, what I'm best at.

Re: I guess that's one way to make sure Ted Cruz wins

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:41 am
by Beebs52
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:
Spock wrote:
But Beebs, you committed "Classic Whataboutism." That means you automatically lost the discussion/argument/whatever.

I think it is kind of Bob#'s corollary to Godwin's Law. If you are accused of Classic Whataboutism that means you lost the debate.
See this is where I forget. Does it have to be actual whataboutism or just accused of it in order to be threadless worthy. What to do what to do.
I once committed Impressionistic Whataboutism. My brain hurt for almost 2 weeks. I'll stick to Post-Modern Whataboutism, what I'm best at.
Fauve. The only way to go.

Re: I guess that's one way to make sure Ted Cruz wins

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:34 am
by flockofseagulls104
Beebs52 wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Beebs52 wrote: See this is where I forget. Does it have to be actual whataboutism or just accused of it in order to be threadless worthy. What to do what to do.
I once committed Impressionistic Whataboutism. My brain hurt for almost 2 weeks. I'll stick to Post-Modern Whataboutism, what I'm best at.
Fauve. The only way to go.
Over by the orange
stream, Obama never even gave
passports to iron tailed
monkeys playing the harp,
did he not?


Example of Fauvist Whataboutism.

Re: I guess that's one way to make sure Ted Cruz wins

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:41 am
by tlynn78
Beebs52 wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Beebs52 wrote: See this is where I forget. Does it have to be actual whataboutism or just accused of it in order to be threadless worthy. What to do what to do.
I once committed Impressionistic Whataboutism. My brain hurt for almost 2 weeks. I'll stick to Post-Modern Whataboutism, what I'm best at.
Fauve. The only way to go.
Talk about whataboutism - football quarterbacks have no place in this discussion.

Re: I guess that's one way to make sure Ted Cruz wins

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:09 am
by Beebs52
tlynn78 wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
I once committed Impressionistic Whataboutism. My brain hurt for almost 2 weeks. I'll stick to Post-Modern Whataboutism, what I'm best at.
Fauve. The only way to go.
Talk about whataboutism - football quarterbacks have no place in this discussion.
Drat! Unable to come up with an appropriate other qb artist. Wait! Cubism! Whatabout that?

Re: I guess that's one way to make sure Ted Cruz wins

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:31 am
by tlynn78
Beebs52 wrote:
tlynn78 wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:
Fauve. The only way to go.
Talk about whataboutism - football quarterbacks have no place in this discussion.
Drat! Unable to come up with an appropriate other qb artist. Wait! Cubism! Whatabout that?
I think that might be 'racist'

Re: I guess that's one way to make sure Ted Cruz wins

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:35 am
by Beebs52
tlynn78 wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:
tlynn78 wrote:
Talk about whataboutism - football quarterbacks have no place in this discussion.
Drat! Unable to come up with an appropriate other qb artist. Wait! Cubism! Whatabout that?
I think that might be 'racist'
My whistle is broke.

Re: I guess that's one way to make sure Ted Cruz wins

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:41 am
by tlynn78
Beebs52 wrote:
tlynn78 wrote:
Beebs52 wrote: Drat! Unable to come up with an appropriate other qb artist. Wait! Cubism! Whatabout that?
I think that might be 'racist'
My whistle is broke.
lol

Re: I guess that's one way to make sure Ted Cruz wins

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:56 am
by Bob Juch
tlynn78 wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:
tlynn78 wrote:
Talk about whataboutism - football quarterbacks have no place in this discussion.
Drat! Unable to come up with an appropriate other qb artist. Wait! Cubism! Whatabout that?
I think that might be 'racist'
They play baseball.

Re: I guess that's one way to make sure Ted Cruz wins

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 5:37 am
by Vandal
Image

Re: I guess that's one way to make sure Ted Cruz wins

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:28 pm
by Bob78164
Here's the experience of an Arizona woman. She has the time and resources to do the necessary fighting on behalf of her kids. But she shouldn't have to. --Bob

Re: I guess that's one way to make sure Ted Cruz wins

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:33 pm
by Beebs52
Bob78164 wrote:Here's the experience of an Arizona woman. She has the time and resources to do the necessary fighting on behalf of her kids. But she shouldn't have to. --Bob
Happy labor day to you. This was already spoken about in a whataboutism thread. Like this one

Re: I guess that's one way to make sure Ted Cruz wins

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:37 am
by themanintheseersuckersuit
Vandal wrote:Image
That poster was created by Sabo during the 2016 campaign
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... od-1133678 For the latest

Re: I guess that's one way to make sure Ted Cruz wins

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:59 am
by Bob Juch
Beebs52 wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:Here's the experience of an Arizona woman. She has the time and resources to do the necessary fighting on behalf of her kids. But she shouldn't have to. --Bob
Happy labor day to you. This was already spoken about in a whataboutism thread. Like this one
What does that have to do with whataboutism?

Re: I guess that's one way to make sure Ted Cruz wins

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:22 am
by a1mamacat
themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:
Vandal wrote:Image
That poster was created by Sabo during the 2016 campaign
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... od-1133678 For the latest

Canada wishes to express our extreme gratitude that you took him back! :mrgreen:

Re: I guess that's one way to make sure Ted Cruz wins

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:27 pm
by elwoodblues
a1mamacat wrote:
Canada wishes to express our extreme gratitude that you took him back! :mrgreen:
We gave Canada acid rain. You gave us Ted Cruz. Let's call it even.