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Re: Official Donny, Drumpf, Trump Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:12 am
by flockofseagulls104
silverscreenselect wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:20 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:08 am

You still haven't explained what exactly I missed that was anti-semetic about the quote you posted. Not all of us have the eagle eye for that kind of thing that you have.
Perhaps you just buy into Trump's notion that Jews are money-obsessed "brutal killers" who have to vote for Trump to avoid a wealth tax. If Trump was talking to a black audience and commented about how they loved their watermelon, you probably wouldn't have a problem with that either.
“Dear @POTUS,” the American Jewish Committee tweeted Sunday afternoon, “Much as we appreciate your unwavering support for Israel, surely there must be a better way to appeal to American Jewish voters, as you just did in Florida, than by money references that feed age-old and ugly stereotypes. Let’s stay off that mine-infested road.” Calling the comments “deeply offensive” and “unconscionable,” the Jewish Democratic Council of America said in a statement, “We strongly denounce these vile and bigoted remarks in which the president—once again—used anti-Semitic stereotypes to characterize Jews as driven by money and insufficiently loyal to Israel. He even had the audacity to suggest that Jews ‘have no choice’ but to support him. American Jews do have a choice, and they’re not choosing President Trump or the Republican Party, which has been complicit in enacting his hateful agenda.”


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/12 ... ic-remarks
But he didn't say anything about watermelons, did he?
He could say anything and you would twist it around in your twisted mind. Just like Schiff did.

Re: Official Donny, Drumpf, Trump Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:47 am
by silverscreenselect
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:12 am
Just like Schiff did.
Jewish people tend to notice anti-Semitic remarks because they've been the target of them their entire lives.

Re: Official Donny, Drumpf, Trump Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:50 am
by silverscreenselect
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:12 am
But he didn't say anything about watermelons, did he?
No, he just referred to Elijah Cummings' district as a “disgusting, rat and rodent infested mess.”

Re: Official Donny, Drumpf, Trump Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:29 pm
by flockofseagulls104
silverscreenselect wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:50 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:12 am
But he didn't say anything about watermelons, did he?
No, he just referred to Elijah Cummings' district as a “disgusting, rat and rodent infested mess.”
https://townhall-com.cdn.ampproject.org ... t-n2550945
Since you brought this up out of nowhere to defend another baseless charge, he was right.
At long last, have you no sense of decency? When will you leftists grow up and debate facts instead of pointing fingers and accusing anyone you don't agree with of some kind of ism.

Re: Official Donny, Drumpf, Trump Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:29 pm
by flockofseagulls104
silverscreenselect wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:50 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:12 am
But he didn't say anything about watermelons, did he?
No, he just referred to Elijah Cummings' district as a “disgusting, rat and rodent infested mess.”
https://townhall-com.cdn.ampproject.org ... t-n2550945
Since you brought this up out of nowhere to defend another baseless charge, he was right. There are other people who have the same opinion. Is David Clarke a racist, too?
At long last, have you no sense of decency? When will you leftists grow up and debate facts instead of pointing fingers and accusing anyone you don't agree with of some kind of ism.

Re: Official Donny, Drumpf, Trump Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:50 pm
by silverscreenselect
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:29 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:50 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:12 am
But he didn't say anything about watermelons, did he?
No, he just referred to Elijah Cummings' district as a “disgusting, rat and rodent infested mess.”
https://townhall-com.cdn.ampproject.org ... t-n2550945
Since you brought this up out of nowhere to defend another baseless charge, he was right. There are other people who have the same opinion. Is David Clarke a racist, too?
At long last, have you no sense of decency? When will you leftists grow up and debate facts instead of pointing fingers and accusing anyone you don't agree with of some kind of ism.
David Clark is a hard right winger. And the comments about Baltimore were widely decried at the time by people who actually live in and around Cummings' district.

When will you grow up and realize that Trump has no interest in debating facts: only in lying and spewing venom that's at best thinly garbed bigotry of one sort or another. The person who has no sense of decency is Donald Trump. And you have very little if you continue to back him up no matter what he says.

Re: Official Donny, Drumpf, Trump Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:05 pm
by silverscreenselect
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:29 pm
When will you leftists grow up and debate facts instead of pointing fingers and accusing anyone you don't agree with of some kind of ism.
Here's an article you might find useful:

https://thecreative.cafe/10-signs-youre ... d737d471fc

Re: Official Donny, Drumpf, Trump Thread

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:08 am
by Estonut
silverscreenselect wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:05 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:29 pm
When will you leftists grow up and debate facts instead of pointing fingers and accusing anyone you don't agree with of some kind of ism.
Here's an article you might find useful:

https://thecreative.cafe/10-signs-youre ... d737d471fc
Your list left off the most obvious sign that one is a racist: They say, "Just put him in a cellblock with some of the black prisoners and let nature take its course," and then try to claim it was some innocent attempt at a joke. Then, they never explain which part of that was supposed to be funny.

Re: Official Donny, Drumpf, Trump Thread

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 7:03 am
by flockofseagulls104
silverscreenselect wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:50 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:29 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:50 am


No, he just referred to Elijah Cummings' district as a “disgusting, rat and rodent infested mess.”
https://townhall-com.cdn.ampproject.org ... t-n2550945
Since you brought this up out of nowhere to defend another baseless charge, he was right. There are other people who have the same opinion. Is David Clarke a racist, too?
At long last, have you no sense of decency? When will you leftists grow up and debate facts instead of pointing fingers and accusing anyone you don't agree with of some kind of ism.
David Clark is a hard right winger. And the comments about Baltimore were widely decried at the time by people who actually live in and around Cummings' district.

When will you grow up and realize that Trump has no interest in debating facts: only in lying and spewing venom that's at best thinly garbed bigotry of one sort or another. The person who has no sense of decency is Donald Trump. And you have very little if you continue to back him up no matter what he says.
You are a hard left winger.
That invalidates everything you say. Is that how it works? I will use that method.

Re: Official Donny, Drumpf, Trump Thread

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 7:04 am
by flockofseagulls104
silverscreenselect wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:50 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:29 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:50 am


No, he just referred to Elijah Cummings' district as a “disgusting, rat and rodent infested mess.”
https://townhall-com.cdn.ampproject.org ... t-n2550945
Since you brought this up out of nowhere to defend another baseless charge, he was right. There are other people who have the same opinion. Is David Clarke a racist, too?
At long last, have you no sense of decency? When will you leftists grow up and debate facts instead of pointing fingers and accusing anyone you don't agree with of some kind of ism.
David Clark is a hard right winger. And the comments about Baltimore were widely decried at the time by people who actually live in and around Cummings' district.

When will you grow up and realize that Trump has no interest in debating facts: only in lying and spewing venom that's at best thinly garbed bigotry of one sort or another. The person who has no sense of decency is Donald Trump. And you have very little if you continue to back him up no matter what he says.
You are a hard left winger.
That invalidates everything you say. Is that how it works? I will use that method.

Re: Official Donny, Drumpf, Trump Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:36 pm
by jarnon
On Thursday Trump tweeted over 100 times. But today his grievances wouldn't fit in a series of tweets, so he dictated an old-fashioned letter.

Letter from President Trump to Speaker Pelosi

Re: Official Donny, Drumpf, Trump Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 6:29 pm
by flockofseagulls104
jarnon wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:36 pm
On Thursday Trump tweeted over 100 times. But today his grievances wouldn't fit in a series of tweets, so he dictated an old-fashioned letter.

Letter from President Trump to Speaker Pelosi
Perfect.

Re: Official Donny, Drumpf, Trump Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 8:42 pm
by Bob Juch
jarnon wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:36 pm
On Thursday Trump tweeted over 100 times. But today his grievances wouldn't fit in a series of tweets, so he dictated an old-fashioned letter.

Letter from President Trump to Speaker Pelosi
I wonder who wrote it?

Re: Official Donny, Drumpf, Trump Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:57 pm
by silverscreenselect
Donald Trump in Michigan 12/18/19 wrote:Then you have this Dingell. Dingell. You know Dingell from Michigan, you know Dingell, you ever hear of her, Michigan? Debbie Dingell, that's a real beauty. So she calls me up like eight months ago... She calls me up. It's the nicest thing that's ever happened. 'Thank you so much. John should be so thrilled. He's looking down. He'd be so thrilled. Thank you so much, sir.'

I said, 'That's OK, don't worry about it.' Maybe he's looking up. I don't know. I don't know. maybe. Maybe. But let's assume he's looking down.
John Dingell served for 59 years and his widow Debbie is now the Representative. But she had the nerve to vote for impeachment after Trump sent her a brief condolence tweet after her husband's death. That comment even got some negative feedback from his rally crowd and a lot of Republican Michigan politicians.

But I'm sure Flock will figure out some way to rationalize this away because it's Trump.

Here's what White House Press Secretary Stephanie Graham had to say:
He has been under attack and under impeachment attack for the last few months, and then just under attack politically for the last two-and-a-half years. I think, as we all know, the President is a counter-puncher.
Apparently, "counter-punching" is telling a widow that her husband of 38 years who died a few months ago is now in Hell.

Re: Official Donny, Drumpf, Trump Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:52 pm
by Beebs52
silverscreenselect wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:57 pm
Donald Trump in Michigan 12/18/19 wrote:Then you have this Dingell. Dingell. You know Dingell from Michigan, you know Dingell, you ever hear of her, Michigan? Debbie Dingell, that's a real beauty. So she calls me up like eight months ago... She calls me up. It's the nicest thing that's ever happened. 'Thank you so much. John should be so thrilled. He's looking down. He'd be so thrilled. Thank you so much, sir.'

I said, 'That's OK, don't worry about it.' Maybe he's looking up. I don't know. I don't know. maybe. Maybe. But let's assume he's looking down.
John Dingell served for 59 years and his widow Debbie is now the Representative. But she had the nerve to vote for impeachment after Trump sent her a brief condolence tweet after her husband's death. That comment even got some negative feedback from his rally crowd and a lot of Republican Michigan politicians.

But I'm sure Flock will figure out some way to rationalize this away because it's Trump.

Here's what White House Press Secretary Stephanie Graham had to say:
He has been under attack and under impeachment attack for the last few months, and then just under attack politically for the last two-and-a-half years. I think, as we all know, the President is a counter-puncher.
Apparently, "counter-punching" is telling a widow that her husband of 38 years who died a few months ago is now in Hell.
Granted That was crude and rude. But, civility, or manufactured civility, covers a lot of venality.

Re: Official Donny, Drumpf, Trump Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:26 pm
by Bob Juch
leaked-audio-trump-adviser-says-republicans-traditionally-rely-on-voter-suppression
https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/world/lea ... ipId=89680

Re: Official Donny, Drumpf, Trump Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:28 pm
by Bob78164
Bob Juch wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:26 pm
leaked-audio-trump-adviser-says-republicans-traditionally-rely-on-voter-suppression
leaked-audio-trump-adviser-says-republi ... -1.4739219
The link is not correct. --Bob

Re: Official Donny, Drumpf, Trump Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:41 pm
by flockofseagulls104
A friend of mine poted this on facebook. I totally agree.

I’ve heard two very bold statements about President Trump lately; that he's the "best president ever" and the "worst president ever. During political struggles, it's easy to become so emotionally affected that one loses sight of history. While I respect everyone’s right to their own opinion, I think we should examine these claims.

For those who think Trump is our worst President, has his gross indecisiveness and utter weakness ever thrown us into a civil war? Did his abject refusal to enact any economic regulation and curb speculation help precipitate the greatest economic catastrophe in our history? Did he win an earlier election by 187 votes after paying off a corrupt public official to "discover" extra ballots, get the U.S. bogged down in a land war in Southeast Asia, and possibly conspire in his predecessor's assassination? Did he flounder around for 444 days while 52 of our diplomats were held hostage by religious nut jobs, only to be freed the day his successor took office?

For those who think Trump is our best President, did he lead the United States to military victory over its colonial oppressor and eschew partisanship to help guide the country through its infancy? Did he win the civil war, hold the country together, and free the slaves? Has he ever successful guided the United States through a depression and a world war? Did he create the interstate highway system? Did he ambitiously push the development of the space program which eventually culminated in the moon landing? Did he bring our totalitarian, nuclear-armed geopolitical nemesis to its knees without a shot being fired?

Regardless of what you hear on the news, these are probably not the best of times OR the worst of times. Enjoy the time you have and be thankful that you live in a free country. Love God and others. And start tuning out the hysterical, hyper partisan, profit-driven media. Life is too short.

Re: Official Donny, Drumpf, Trump Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:32 pm
by Bob Juch
Bob78164 wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:28 pm
Bob Juch wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:26 pm
leaked-audio-trump-adviser-says-republicans-traditionally-rely-on-voter-suppression
leaked-audio-trump-adviser-says-republi ... -1.4739219
The link is not correct. --Bob
Fixed it.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/world/lea ... ipId=89680

Re: Official Donny, Drumpf, Trump Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:37 pm
by Bob Juch
Christian pastor: I’d support Trump ‘even if he ran a dogfighting ring on Mother Teresa’s grave while having multiple affairs’
https://deadstate.org/christian-pastor- ... XCiBL50lhU

Re: Official Donny, Drumpf, Trump Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 3:44 pm
by Bob Juch
Trump on Saturday renewed his long-standing feud against windmills during a speech to the conservative Turning Point USA conference on Saturday evening in West Palm Beach, Florida.
"I never understood wind," Trump said while criticizing the Green New Deal. "I know windmills very much, I have studied it better than anybody. I know it is very expensive. They are made in China and Germany mostly, very few made here, almost none, but they are manufactured, tremendous—if you are into this—tremendous fumes and gases are spewing into the atmosphere. You know we have a world, right?"

The president then attacked windmills for being "noisy," before declaring that they also "kill the birds."

"The world is tiny compared to the universe," he continued. "So tremendous, tremendous amount of fumes and everything. You talk about the carbon footprint, fumes are spewing into the air, right spewing, whether it is China or Germany, is going into the air."

"A windmill will kill many bald eagles," Trump added. "After a certain number, they make you turn the windmill off, that is true. By the way, they make you turn it off. And yet, if you killed one, they put you in jail. That is OK. But why is it OK for windmills to destroy the bird population?"

The president once claimed that the structure that turns wind power into rotational energy causes cancer and devalues the price of homes. The president also claimed that windmills are extremely unreliable: "All of a sudden, it stops; the wind and the televisions go off. And your wives and husbands say, 'Darling, I want to watch Donald Trump on television tonight. But the wind stopped blowing and I can't watch. There's no electricity in the house, darling.'"

Re: Official Donny, Drumpf, Trump Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:27 am
by jarnon
This article gives the most detailed timeline so far of the hold on Ukraine funding.

Exclusive: Unredacted Ukraine Documents Reveal Extent of Pentagon’s Legal Concerns

It makes clear that the hold was lifted on Sept. 12, not because Trump "got caught" as Schiff said, and not because Trump became satisfied with Ukraine's anti-corruption efforts, but because the money had to be spent by Sept. 30.

None of the released documents give the reason for the hold. Since that's the core of the impeachment case, somebody who knows the answer (Mulvaney probably) has to testify.

Re: Official Donny, Drumpf, Trump Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:57 pm
by jarnon
Not what Trump wants to hear from fellow conservatives:
Bibi Netanyahu wrote:The assassination of Soleimani isn't an Israeli event but an American event. We were not involved and should not be dragged into it.
John Bolton wrote:Since my testimony is once again at issue, I have had to resolve the serious competing issues as best I could, based on careful consideration and study. I have concluded that, if the Senate issues a subpoena for my testimony, I am prepared to testify.

Re: Official Donny, Drumpf, Trump Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:45 pm
by Bob78164
Donny has blocked Iran's foreign minister from entering the country to address the U.N. General Assembly. This is a violation of U.S. law (passed in 1947), which requires the United States to allow entry to foreign diplomats in order to conduct business with the United Nations. --Bob

Re: Official Donny, Drumpf, Trump Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:23 pm
by Beebs52
Bob78164 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:45 pm
Donny has blocked Iran's foreign minister from entering the country to address the U.N. General Assembly. This is a violation of U.S. law (passed in 1947), which requires the United States to allow entry to foreign diplomats in order to conduct business with the United Nations. --Bob
https://www.lawfareblog.com/aboutalebi- ... precedents