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“This one was tough for me. As soon as it was over, they were put into a van. I had to stop and take deep breaths,” Moore told TIME Tuesday, describing his reaction to the scene of a two-year-old Honduran girl crying as her mother was being detained in McAllen, Texas. “All I wanted to do was pick her up. But I couldn’t.”

The only problem is the little girl in the picture?Abandoned by her mother and left with smugglers. Trump is her savior.

The father of the 2-year-old Honduran girl that became the face of the media's recent attack on the Trump administration for its "zero tolerance" policy on illegal immigration says that she was never separated from her mother at the border and that the mother abandoned her three other children and paid a human smuggler thousands of dollars to illegally enter the United States, all against his wishes.

Other versionsof the story tell a different story (no smugglers) but also no separation from her mother at the border.

BackInTex wrote: Other versions of the story tell a different story (no smugglers) but also no separation from her mother at the border.

Accepting the Reuters version rather than the alt right version of the story, we have a woman who runs away from her husband, taking an infant with her. In the United States, when something like this occurs, it's very often a case of a woman fleeing a case of domestic abuse. My hunch would be that Honduras probably doesn't have a very robust family protective services infrastructure in place so that an abused woman there would probably have even fewer options than in the U.S.

Is it any surprise that the father would paint the child's mother in as bad a light as possible?

News photographers take photos that convey the essence of what's going on. They often can't verify every detail. The two most powerful photos of the Vietnam war were of the naked crying girl and the man shooting a prisoner in the head. I don't think the photographers chased down the facts on those photos, which didn't make them any more accurate as conveying the essence of what was happening in Vietnam.

In any event, the proof will be in the pudding as we see how many of the existing detainees are reunited with their parents and how quickly that occurs.

silverscreenselect wrote:

BackInTex wrote: Other versions of the story tell a different story (no smugglers) but also no separation from her mother at the border.

Accepting the Reuters version rather than the alt right version of the story, we have a woman who runs away from her husband, taking an infant with her. In the United States, when something like this occurs, it's very often a case of a woman fleeing a case of domestic abuse. My hunch would be that Honduras probably doesn't have a very robust family protective services infrastructure in place so that an abused woman there would probably have even fewer options than in the U.S.

Is it any surprise that the father would paint the child's mother in as bad a light as possible?

News photographers take photos that convey the essence of what's going on. They often can't verify every detail. The two most powerful photos of the Vietnam war were of the naked crying girl and the man shooting a prisoner in the head. I don't think the photographers chased down the facts on those photos, which didn't make them any more accurate as conveying the essence of what was happening in Vietnam.

In any event, the proof will be in the pudding as we see how many of the existing detainees are reunited with their parents and how quickly that occurs.

Nice fantasy story there. You seriously just make shit up to further your twisted beliefs.

tlynn78 wrote: Nice fantasy story there. You seriously just make shit up to further your twisted beliefs.

My initial reaction was probably wrong. (Time has printed a correction since this news came to light) However, it's interesting what the father did have to say later on:

Varela pushed back against the portrayals of his daughter’s story, saying it should not cast doubt on the “human rights violations” taking place at the border. “This is the case for my daughter, but it is not the case for 2,000 children that were separated from their parents,” Varela said.

At least 2,500 migrant children have been separated from their parents at the border since May 5. Varela said he felt “proud” that his daughter has “represented the subject of immigration” and helped propel changes in policy. But he asked that Trump “put his hand on his heart.” He hopes that U.S. officials will grant asylum to his wife and daughter, he said. Asked whether he would also like to come to the United States, he said, “Of course, someday.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... 6bbeb8731c

silverscreenselect wrote:

tlynn78 wrote: Nice fantasy story there. You seriously just make shit up to further your twisted beliefs.

My initial reaction was probably wrong. (Time has printed a correction since this news came to light) However, it's interesting what the father did have to say later on:

Varela pushed back against the portrayals of his daughter’s story, saying it should not cast doubt on the “human rights violations” taking place at the border. “This is the case for my daughter, but it is not the case for 2,000 children that were separated from their parents,” Varela said.

At least 2,500 migrant children have been separated from their parents at the border since May 5. Varela said he felt “proud” that his daughter has “represented the subject of immigration” and helped propel changes in policy. But he asked that Trump “put his hand on his heart.” He hopes that U.S. officials will grant asylum to his wife and daughter, he said. Asked whether he would also like to come to the United States, he said, “Of course, someday.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... 6bbeb8731c

First trump has to find his heart.

Bob Juch wrote:

silverscreenselect wrote:

tlynn78 wrote: Nice fantasy story there. You seriously just make shit up to further your twisted beliefs.

My initial reaction was probably wrong. (Time has printed a correction since this news came to light) However, it's interesting what the father did have to say later on:

Varela pushed back against the portrayals of his daughter’s story, saying it should not cast doubt on the “human rights violations” taking place at the border. “This is the case for my daughter, but it is not the case for 2,000 children that were separated from their parents,” Varela said.

At least 2,500 migrant children have been separated from their parents at the border since May 5. Varela said he felt “proud” that his daughter has “represented the subject of immigration” and helped propel changes in policy. But he asked that Trump “put his hand on his heart.” He hopes that U.S. officials will grant asylum to his wife and daughter, he said. Asked whether he would also like to come to the United States, he said, “Of course, someday.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... 6bbeb8731c

First trump has to find his heart.

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