Anyone heard of Max Scherzer

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macrae1234 · #1 Post by **macrae1234** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:54 pm

He's a 6-foot-3 strikeout machine for the Diamondbacks fresh from the minor leagues and armed with a glossy dossier, ready for a chance to become a star. On Tuesday night in front of a crowd of 20,241, his major-league career began with a bang.
Relieving an ineffective Edgar Gonzalez, who lasted 2 2/3 innings and allowed six earned runs against the Houston Astros, the right-handed Scherzer made his debut a memorable one.
The former first-round draft choice, a starting pitcher who was called upon earlier this week to help fill a temporary need in the bullpen, was lights out. The Diamondbacks lost 6-4, but Scherzer energized Chase Field with a performance one would expect from a veteran.
In 4 1/3 innings, Scherzer, 23, retired all 13 batters he faced, striking out seven during a 47-pitch effort that included 35 strikes. When he walked off the field for good after the top of the seventh inning, he was treated to a rousing standing ovation. "He's good. He's got a live arm," said Astros third baseman Geoff Blum, who hit a three-run double off Gonzalez in the third. "We didn't know much about him, other than all the hype. . . . But he threw strikeouts, and that's what you need to do. He's going to be good."
Scherzer routinely hit 96 mph with his fastball, but he used decent off-speed pitches to keep the Astros off balance.
Since 1956, the most batters to be retired from a pitcher making his debut as a reliever was 12, accomplished by the Dodgers' Pete Richert on April 12, 1962. The seven strikeouts were one short of the major-league record for most in a debut relief appearance, as the Pirates' Barry Jones had eight on April 20, 1986.
"I was excited and really just anxious to get out there and see what happens," Scherzer said. "I just wanted to get it over with. I wasn't nervous. I just wanted to do my thing.
"But the game slowed down for me, and that helped."

He’s starting Monday against the Phillies..

Appa23 · #2 Post by **Appa23** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:33 pm

The test for him will be how well he does after batters have had to see him some more.

Pitchers always have the advantage when a batter has never seen him before that at-bat, either in person or on tape.

5LD · #3 Post by **5LD** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:46 pm

Appa, if that is completely true..... then you need to explain Mariano Rivera.

Appa23 · #4 Post by **Appa23** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:54 pm

5LD wrote:Appa, if that is completely true..... then you need to explain Mariano Rivera.

What?????

What does Mariano Rivera have to do with the fact that young pitchers can look good in their first appearances, only to get lit up later, when batters have had a chance to se them? (Also, keeping in mind that Rivera is a relief pitcher, not a starter, which this kid will be.)

It is the same philosophy as you can tell a good pitcher froma great pitcher not how how they fare with the first time through a line-up, but rather the second and third time through a line-up.

5LD · #5 Post by **5LD** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:09 pm

Sorry, you wrote pitchers always have the advantage.....

I took you for what you wrote.....

Apparently not what you meant.

SportsFan68 · #6 Post by **SportsFan68** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:59 pm

Tan knows who he is.

I was gonna rush over and pick him up for the Rocks. Boy was I late.

Appa23 · #7 Post by **Appa23** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:03 pm

5LD wrote:Sorry, you wrote pitchers always have the advantage.....

In a specific discussion about a young pitcher.

tanstaafl2 · #8 Post by **tanstaafl2** » Thu May 01, 2008 6:47 am

Umm, sure I've heard of him. Been tracking him for several months now. In fact he is a member of the "legendary" Tanstaafl Oenophilic Sorryassbastards, current leaders of the equally legendary BBBL!

Management was so high on him that he was on the sorry ass SAB roster for for more than a week prior to his BBBL debut. I look forward to his debut as a starter next week!

Of course as a sorry ass SAB there is an excellent chance he will get spanked like an unruly child in his first official start for the team.

Or his arm will fall off a few minutes after the lineup deadline...

Loco Rovo's Interpreter · #9 Post by **Loco Rovo's Interpreter** » Thu May 01, 2008 6:56 am

tanstaafl2 wrote:Umm, sure I've heard of him. Been tracking him for several months now. In fact he is a member of the "legendary" Tanstaafl Oenophilic Sorryassbastards, current leaders of the equally legendary BBBL!

Management was so high on him that he was on the sorry ass SAB roster for for more than a week prior to his BBBL debut. I look forward to his debut as a starter next week!

Of course as a sorry ass SAB there is an excellent chance he will get spanked like an unruly child in his first official start for the team.

Or his arm will fall off a few minutes after the lineup deadline...

I smell Matt Cain circa 2005....

tanstaafl2 · #10 Post by **tanstaafl2** » Thu May 01, 2008 7:17 am

Loco Rovo's Interpreter wrote:
tanstaafl2 wrote:Umm, sure I've heard of him. Been tracking him for several months now. In fact he is a member of the "legendary" Tanstaafl Oenophilic Sorryassbastards, current leaders of the equally legendary BBBL!

Management was so high on him that he was on the sorry ass SAB roster for for more than a week prior to his BBBL debut. I look forward to his debut as a starter next week!

Of course as a sorry ass SAB there is an excellent chance he will get spanked like an unruly child in his first official start for the team.

Or his arm will fall off a few minutes after the lineup deadline...

I smell Matt Cain circa 2005....

At least management will know who to whine about!

And that second sombrero seems rather small...

jarnon · #11 Post by **jarnon** » Tue May 06, 2008 5:08 am

The Phillies taught young Max a lesson: 7 hits and 2 earned runs in 4 innings. Meanwhile, the Phillies' old man, Jamie Moyer, went 7 innings, gave up 6 hits and 2 earned runs, and got 2 hits and an RBI himself! Makes me proud to be a MAWG.

peacock2121 · #12 Post by **peacock2121** » Tue May 06, 2008 5:21 am

5LD wrote:Sorry, you wrote pitchers always have the advantage.....

I took you for what you wrote.....

Apparently not what you meant.

tee hee

peacock2121 · #13 Post by **peacock2121** » Tue May 06, 2008 5:21 am

Appa23 wrote:
5LD wrote:Sorry, you wrote pitchers always have the advantage.....
In a specific discussion about a young pitcher.

so..... context matters?

You really have to dance when you want to have things both ways.

peacock2121 · #14 Post by **peacock2121** » Tue May 06, 2008 5:22 am

I also have no opinion about this whole discussion.

It's context is interesting.

I don't need to understand the content.

#15 Post by **littlebeast13** » Wed May 14, 2008 1:32 am

When this thread came up last week, it reminded me that in 20 years of attending ballgames, I've never seen a pitcher make his ML debut and get the victory. Norm Charlton (L), Mike Perez, Ryan Bowen (L), John Frascatore (L), Tom McGraw, Britt Reames (L), Mike Crudale, Matt Ford, Kiko Calero, Rich Harden, Mike O'Connor (L), Carlos Marmol, and Marcus McBeth all failed previously with the five shown picking up the loss....

Marina Salas, who pitched a shaky 9th inning in which he walked the bases loaded in his first MLB work ronight, finally broke that string... picking up his first ML win after the Pirates lit up Ron Villone like a Christmas tree in the 10th.

And I got rained on, so it must be May and I must be on my week off....

lb13

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