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Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:27 am
by flockofseagulls104
Bob78164 wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:09 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:34 pm
Also, unfortunately, these individuals were protected by equally evil individuals who thought their higher purpose was to protect the institution, not the children. These individuals do not represent the institutions by any means and should be rooted out and punished to the fullest extent.
Actually, you're just flat out wrong here. The individuals committing these heinous acts and covering them up do in fact represent the organization. That's why the organization was held financially responsible for their acts and omissions. And it's that financial responsibility, imposed by juries who heard the facts of individual cases, that resulted in the organization's bankruptcy.

So I'll ask again. What do you think society as a whole should have done differently with respect to the organization? --Bob
No, bobby. Lawyers did that because that's where the money is.

Oh, and I did answer your last question, you just ignored it. Find and prosecute all the INDIVIDUALS who committed the heinous acts and the INDIVIDUALS who protected those who committed the heinous acts and put effective measures in place to prevent it from happening again. And do not punish the people and entire organization who did nothing wrong. I always go back to an incident in JR High School. Two kids got into a fist fight in the lunch room. Because of those two kids, everyone in the cafeteria at lunch time were required to eat in silence, no talking, for the rest of the school year. We did nothing wrong, but we were punished, because it was easier for those in charge to use their power to control. That seems to be the remedy of first choice by many people who have authotity, and it is wrong, but that's what happens a lot, and is what is happening here.

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:33 am
by Bob78164
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:27 am
Bob78164 wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:09 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:34 pm
Also, unfortunately, these individuals were protected by equally evil individuals who thought their higher purpose was to protect the institution, not the children. These individuals do not represent the institutions by any means and should be rooted out and punished to the fullest extent.
Actually, you're just flat out wrong here. The individuals committing these heinous acts and covering them up do in fact represent the organization. That's why the organization was held financially responsible for their acts and omissions. And it's that financial responsibility, imposed by juries who heard the facts of individual cases, that resulted in the organization's bankruptcy.

So I'll ask again. What do you think society as a whole should have done differently with respect to the organization? --Bob
No, bobby. Lawyers did that because that's where the money is.

Oh, and I did answer your last question, you just ignored it. Find and prosecute all the INDIVIDUALS who committed the heinous acts and the INDIVIDUALS who protected those who committed the heinous acts and put effective measures in place to prevent it from happening again. And do not punish the people and entire organization who did nothing wrong. I always go back to an incident in JR High School. Two kids got into a fist fight in the lunch room. Because of those two kids, everyone in the cafeteria at lunch time were required to eat in silence, no talking, for the rest of the school year. We did nothing wrong, but we were punished, because it was easier for those in charge to use their power to control. That seems to be the remedy of first choice by many people who have authotity, and it is wrong, but that's what happens a lot, and is what is happening here.
I see. You want the organization that put those monsters in position to harm children, the organization that for years covered up attempts to bring them to justice, the organization that juries who (unlike you) heard the facts and the evidence found should be liable for its acts and omissions -- you want that organization to get off scot free because it gives you warm fuzzies.

You have a very weird set of priorities. I'm glad most Americans don't share them. --Bob

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:11 am
by flockofseagulls104
Bob78164 wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:33 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:27 am
Bob78164 wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:09 am
Actually, you're just flat out wrong here. The individuals committing these heinous acts and covering them up do in fact represent the organization. That's why the organization was held financially responsible for their acts and omissions. And it's that financial responsibility, imposed by juries who heard the facts of individual cases, that resulted in the organization's bankruptcy.

So I'll ask again. What do you think society as a whole should have done differently with respect to the organization? --Bob
No, bobby. Lawyers did that because that's where the money is.

Oh, and I did answer your last question, you just ignored it. Find and prosecute all the INDIVIDUALS who committed the heinous acts and the INDIVIDUALS who protected those who committed the heinous acts and put effective measures in place to prevent it from happening again. And do not punish the people and entire organization who did nothing wrong. I always go back to an incident in JR High School. Two kids got into a fist fight in the lunch room. Because of those two kids, everyone in the cafeteria at lunch time were required to eat in silence, no talking, for the rest of the school year. We did nothing wrong, but we were punished, because it was easier for those in charge to use their power to control. That seems to be the remedy of first choice by many people who have authotity, and it is wrong, but that's what happens a lot, and is what is happening here.
I see. You want the organization that put those monsters in position to harm children, the organization that for years covered up attempts to bring them to justice, the organization that juries who (unlike you) heard the facts and the evidence found should be liable for its acts and omissions -- you want that organization to get off scot free because it gives you warm fuzzies.

You have a very weird set of priorities. I'm glad most Americans don't share them. --Bob
No, that's not anything like what I said, bobby. Are you taking lessens from Fulla?

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:27 pm
by Spock
SSS>>>"cry crocodile tears over a bunch of rapists and pederasts and a whole lot more who were willing to look the other way, then I'll call you out on it every time".<<<

You talk a good game. Now do the Rotherham (among many other places) grooming gangs.

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:54 pm
by silverscreenselect
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:11 am
No, that's not anything like what I said, bobby. Are you taking lessens from Fulla?
I think that Bob would be proud to be compared favorably with Adam Schiff.

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:38 am
by silverscreenselect
Weinstein found guilty on two counts; acquitted on more serious charges

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertai ... 678831002/

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:00 am
by flockofseagulls104
silverscreenselect wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:54 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:11 am
No, that's not anything like what I said, bobby. Are you taking lessens from Fulla?
I think that Bob would be proud to be compared favorably with Adam Schiff.
Joe McCarthy would also be proud.

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:59 am
by silverscreenselect
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:00 am
silverscreenselect wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:54 pm
I think that Bob would be proud to be compared favorably with Adam Schiff.
Joe McCarthy would also be proud.
I'm sure Joe McCarthy would be thrilled to be compared favorably to Adam Schiff, just as Donald Trump would be thrilled to be compared favorably to Abraham Lincoln.

Neither is ever going to happen.

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:40 am
by Bob Juch
He was sentenced to 23 years.

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:49 am
by Bob Juch
Bob Juch wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:40 am
He was sentenced to 23 years.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertai ... 954378002/

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 7:08 pm
by Bob Juch
Harvey has COVID-19.

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 7:11 pm
by Beebs52
Bob Juch wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 7:08 pm
Harvey has COVID-19.
I actually don't wish this on anybody. Do you?

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 7:22 pm
by Bob Juch
Beebs52 wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 7:11 pm
Bob Juch wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 7:08 pm
Harvey has COVID-19.
I actually don't wish this on anybody. Do you?
I didn't say a thing, but of course not.

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 10:48 am
by jarnon

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 4:55 pm
by Bob Juch
jarnon wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 10:48 am
Nevada Congressman Steven Horsford

Horsford admits to extramarital affair after podcaster discloses relationship
He doesn't belong here. There was nothing nonconsensual.

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 5:01 pm
by silverscreenselect
Bob Juch wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 4:55 pm
jarnon wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 10:48 am
Nevada Congressman Steven Horsford

Horsford admits to extramarital affair after podcaster discloses relationship
He doesn't belong here. There was nothing nonconsensual.
Consensual or not, having an affair with an intern shows poor judgment.

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 1:18 pm
by silverscreenselect
Tara Reade Is Dropped as Client by a Leading #MeToo Lawyer
The lawyer for Tara Reade, the former Senate aide who has accused Joseph R. Biden Jr. of sexual assault, said Friday that he was no longer representing her, just two weeks after taking her on as a client. The lawyer, Douglas H. Wigdor, has been a leading plaintiff’s attorney of the #MeToo era. His firm is best known for bringing discrimination cases against Fox News — and its former star host Bill O’Reilly — and Harvey Weinstein, and his presence at Ms. Reade’s side gave her claims added legal heft.

His announced departure came a day after defense lawyers in California said they were reviewing criminal cases in which Ms. Reade served as an expert witness on domestic violence, concerned that she had misrepresented her educational credentials in court.
Reade testified as a domestic violence expert in a number of cases in California. However, Antioch University now claims that, although Reade took several classes there, she never received a degree.

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:31 am
by Vandal
Danny Masterson, star of 'The Ranch' and 'That '70s Show,' charged with three counts of rape.

Danny Masterson, the actor ousted from Netflix's "The Ranch" amid sexual assault allegations, has been charged with forcibly raping three women in separate incidents between 2001 and 2003, the district attorney in Los Angeles County announced Wednesday

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertai ... 209915001/

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:19 am
by silverscreenselect
Legendary porn actor Ron Jeremy has been charged with raping three women and assaulting a fourth. The incidents took place in 2017 and 2019. Apparently, there have been earlier complaints against Jeremy but police would not prosecute. He could face 90 years in prison (he's currently 67) if convicted on all counts. If this situation weren't so serious, it would lend itself to a whole lot of crude jokes.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... en-1299928

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:18 am
by silverscreenselect
Fox News daytime anchor Ed Henry has been fired based on a sexual harassment complaint the network received last week. He was suspended the same day and. after an internal investigation, got his walking papers today. The name of Henry's accuser has not been revealed, but the events apparently took place several years ago.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/01/media/ed ... index.html

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:59 am
by jarnon

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:58 pm
by silverscreenselect
silverscreenselect wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:18 am
Fox News daytime anchor Ed Henry has been fired based on a sexual harassment complaint the network received last week. He was suspended the same day and. after an internal investigation, got his walking papers today. The name of Henry's accuser has not been revealed, but the events apparently took place several years ago.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/01/media/ed ... index.html
A lawsuit filed in federal court against Fox News on Monday accused former host Ed Henry of rape and alleged that he retaliated against two women who rejected his advances. The lawsuit was brought by Jennifer Eckhart, a former Fox Business Network producer and online personality who made the rape allegation against Henry, and Cathy Areu, a journalist who appeared frequently on Fox News. Henry was abruptly fired by Fox News on July 1 after the network said it received a complaint of sexual harassment from years ago.

The lawsuit also alleged that Areu was subjected to sexual harassment by three other Fox News hosts: Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson and Howard Kurtz.
In a statement, a Fox News spokesperson rejected claims of harassment regarding those three hosts. The statement said a "comprehensive independent investigation" that included interviews with "numerous eyewitnesses" was conducted by an outside law firm, and described Areu's allegations as "false, patently frivolous and utterly devoid of any merit.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/20/media/ed ... index.html

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:25 am
by silverscreenselect
In a move reminiscent of replacing Kevin Spacey with Christopher Plummer in All the Money in the World (which netted Plummer an Oscar nomination), Tig Notaro will replace Chris d'Elia in the Zack Snyder Netflix zombie film, Army of the Dead. The film had completed shooting when allegations of sexual abuse involving underaged girls arose against d'Elia. His scenes will be reshot with Notaro at a later date when it's safe to resume production.

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:13 am
by Bob Juch
silverscreenselect wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:25 am
In a move reminiscent of replacing Kevin Spacey with Christopher Plummer in All the Money in the World (which netted Plummer an Oscar nomination), Tig Notaro will replace Chris d'Elia in the Zack Snyder Netflix zombie film, Army of the Dead. The film had completed shooting when allegations of sexual abuse involving underaged girls arose against d'Elia. His scenes will be reshot with Notaro at a later date when it's safe to resume production.
New York Times wrote:The cascade of allegations against Mr. D’Elia, 40, started last month on Twitter when a woman, Simone Rossi, tweeted that in 2014, when she was 16 years old, the stand-up comedian emailed her asking for “a pic.” Months later, according to screenshots of the emails that she posted, he asked her to “make out.” (Ms. Rossi’s tweets are now private.)

After that Twitter thread gained traction, other women came forward online with accusations that Mr. D’Elia had requested nude photos of them or asked to meet up in person when they were underage or in their late teens.

In a statement to USA Today in June, Mr. D’Elia said that his relationships had all been legal and consensual.

“I know I have said and done things that might have offended people during my career, but I have never knowingly pursued any underage women at any point,” he said in the statement. “I have never met or exchanged any inappropriate photos with the people who have tweeted about me.”

Mr. D’Elia went on to apologize in the statement for being a “dumb guy” who “let myself get caught up in my lifestyle.”

Mr. D’Elia also appeared in the second season of the Netflix series “You,” playing a stand-up comedian who secretly drugs and sexually assaults underage girls — a role that Ms. Rossi used to preface her initial tweets about Mr. D’Elia.

Days after the women’s accounts surfaced on social media, The Los Angeles Times published the accounts of five women, including Ms. Rossi, who were underage, in their late teens or in their early 20s when they had online or in-person encounters with Mr. D’Elia. One woman said that when she was a college student, Mr. D’Elia asked her to perform oral sex on his friend. Two other women, one of whom was named, told The L.A. Times that Mr. D’Elia exposed himself to them in a hotel room when they were young adults. (Mr. D’Elia declined to be interviewed for that article.)

Other streaming platforms have pulled content with Mr. D’Elia. Hulu, Amazon Prime Video and Comedy Central are no longer hosting an episode of the comedy show “Workaholics” in which Mr. D’Elia plays a child abuser. Mr. D’Elia’s comedy special from 2013 is also no longer available on Comedy Central’s website.
Art imitates life?

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:55 pm
by Vandal
Ron Jeremy Charged With 20 More Counts of Sexual Assault

Amended complaint includes accusations that span 14 years, from alleged victims aged 15 to 54

Adult film star Ron Jeremy is facing 20 additional sexual assault charges involving 13 women, the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office announced Monday.

The new charges include six counts of sexual battery by restraint, five counts of forcible rape, three counts of forcible oral copulation and two counts of forcible penetration by a foreign object. The amended complaint comes after Jeremy was charged with sexually assaulting four women back in June; he has pleaded not guilty to those charges.

Jeremy will be arraigned on the new charges today, August 31st. His attorney did not immediately return Rolling Stone’s request for comment.

The new charges date as far back as 2004, while the most recent one involves an incident that allegedly took place January 1st, 2020. The ages of the alleged victims range from 15 to 54.

The 2004 incident involves a 15-year-old girl who attended a party in Santa Clarita, California, where Jeremy allegedly assaulted her. For that incident, Jeremy was charged with assault with intent to commit rape, penetration by a foreign object on an unconscious or sleeping victim and lewd conduct.



https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/cu ... t-1053372/