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flockofseagulls104 wrote:

No one thrust into this situation is ever cavalier about it.

One word: Gosnell.

flockofseagulls104 wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:

flockofseagulls104 wrote:Just for the record, I love it that the 3 top dems in Va got caught in a web of their own design, but I think the thing about Northam in blackface is overblown. Sure, it offends some black folk, but none of us were there, we don't know in what spirit these costumes were presented, it was a time before the professionally offended were somehow given power over all of us, and it was something he did in high school. If he was someone I could vaguely even support, I would not hold it against him. What I hold against him is the matter of fact way he spoke of letting a newborn baby die.
As for Fairfax: this is America, where people are supposed to be presumed innocent. He is just as susceptible to false accusations as Kavanaugh or anyone else. Until it is proven in a court of law, I will give him that presumption.

Thank you.

For what? I believe you were outspoken about Kavanaugh being guilty and not deserving his appointment, weren't you?

Bob Juch wrote:

flockofseagulls104 wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:Thank you.

For what? I believe you were outspoken about Kavanaugh being guilty and not deserving his appointment, weren't you?

No, I did not judge him guilty. I said he did not deserve his appointment after his sobbing rant when he testified.

Estonut wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:

flockofseagulls104 wrote:For what? I believe you were outspoken about Kavanaugh being guilty and not deserving his appointment, weren't you?

No, I did not judge him guilty. I said he did not deserve his appointment after his sobbing rant when he testified.

You have 2 pages of pre-9/27/2018 posts here that disagree with this assessment.

Bob Juch wrote:

Estonut wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:No, I did not judge him guilty. I said he did not deserve his appointment after his sobbing rant when he testified.

You have 2 pages of pre-9/27/2018 posts here that disagree with this assessment.

You have too much free time; I don't so am not going to find them to argue with you.

jarnon wrote:Cuba Gooding Jr. charged with forcible touching in alleged New York groping incident

jarnon wrote:E. Jean Carroll: “Trump attacked me in the dressing room of Bergdorf Goodman.”

Moonves too.

I expect Trump to contend that Carroll wasn’t hot enough for him to molest. OTOH the description “thrusts his penis halfway — or completely, I’m not certain — inside me” is consistent with what we know about Trump’s dick.

Pres. Trump wrote:Regarding the "story" by E. Jean Carroll, claiming she once encountered me at Bergdorf Goodman 23 years ago. I've never met this person in my life. She is trying to sell a new book—that should indicate her motivation. It should be sold in the fiction section.

Shame on those who make up false stories of assault to try to get publicity for themselves, or sell a book, or carry out a political agenda—like Julie Swetnick who falsely accused Justice Brett Kavanaugh. It's just as bad for people to believe it, particularly when there is zero evidence. Worse still for a dying publication to try to prop itself up by peddling fake news—it's an epidemic.

Ms. Carroll & New York Magazine: No pictures? No surveillance? No video? No reports? No sales attendants around?? I would like to thank Bergdorf Goodman for confirming they have no video footage of any such incident, because it never happened.

False accusations diminish the severity of real assault. All should condemn false accusations and any actual assault in the strongest possible terms.

If anyone has information that the Democratic Party is working with Ms. Carroll or New York Magazine, please notify us as soon as possible. The world should know what's really going on. It is a disgrace and people should pay dearly for such false accusations.

jarnon wrote:

jarnon wrote:E. Jean Carroll: “Trump attacked me in the dressing room of Bergdorf Goodman.”

Moonves too.

I expect Trump to contend that Carroll wasn’t hot enough for him to molest. OTOH the description “thrusts his penis halfway — or completely, I’m not certain — inside me” is consistent with what we know about Trump’s dick.

Pres. Trump wrote:Regarding the "story" by E. Jean Carroll, claiming she once encountered me at Bergdorf Goodman 23 years ago. I've never met this person in my life. She is trying to sell a new book—that should indicate her motivation. It should be sold in the fiction section.

Shame on those who make up false stories of assault to try to get publicity for themselves, or sell a book, or carry out a political agenda—like Julie Swetnick who falsely accused Justice Brett Kavanaugh. It's just as bad for people to believe it, particularly when there is zero evidence. Worse still for a dying publication to try to prop itself up by peddling fake news—it's an epidemic.

Ms. Carroll & New York Magazine: No pictures? No surveillance? No video? No reports? No sales attendants around?? I would like to thank Bergdorf Goodman for confirming they have no video footage of any such incident, because it never happened.

False accusations diminish the severity of real assault. All should condemn false accusations and any actual assault in the strongest possible terms.

If anyone has information that the Democratic Party is working with Ms. Carroll or New York Magazine, please notify us as soon as possible. The world should know what's really going on. It is a disgrace and people should pay dearly for such false accusations.

The New York article has a picture of Trump and Carroll.

Bob Juch wrote:

jarnon wrote:

jarnon wrote:E. Jean Carroll: “Trump attacked me in the dressing room of Bergdorf Goodman.”

Moonves too.

I expect Trump to contend that Carroll wasn’t hot enough for him to molest. OTOH the description “thrusts his penis halfway — or completely, I’m not certain — inside me” is consistent with what we know about Trump’s dick.

Pres. Trump wrote:Regarding the "story" by E. Jean Carroll, claiming she once encountered me at Bergdorf Goodman 23 years ago. I've never met this person in my life. She is trying to sell a new book—that should indicate her motivation. It should be sold in the fiction section.

Shame on those who make up false stories of assault to try to get publicity for themselves, or sell a book, or carry out a political agenda—like Julie Swetnick who falsely accused Justice Brett Kavanaugh. It's just as bad for people to believe it, particularly when there is zero evidence. Worse still for a dying publication to try to prop itself up by peddling fake news—it's an epidemic.

Ms. Carroll & New York Magazine: No pictures? No surveillance? No video? No reports? No sales attendants around?? I would like to thank Bergdorf Goodman for confirming they have no video footage of any such incident, because it never happened.

False accusations diminish the severity of real assault. All should condemn false accusations and any actual assault in the strongest possible terms.

If anyone has information that the Democratic Party is working with Ms. Carroll or New York Magazine, please notify us as soon as possible. The world should know what's really going on. It is a disgrace and people should pay dearly for such false accusations.

The New York article has a picture of Trump and Carroll.

jarnon wrote:I expect Trump to contend that Carroll wasn’t hot enough for him to molest.

Pres. Trump wrote:I’ll say it with great respect: Number one, she’s not my type. Number two, it never happened. It never happened, OK?

jarnon wrote:E. Jean Carroll: “Trump attacked me in the dressing room of Bergdorf Goodman.”

Moonves too.

I expect Trump to contend that Carroll wasn’t hot enough for him to molest. OTOH the description “thrusts his penis halfway — or completely, I’m not certain — inside me” is consistent with what we know about Trump’s dick.

tlynn78 wrote: Congratulations! You have reached the Bobs and SSS level of TDS!

silverscreenselect wrote:

tlynn78 wrote: Congratulations! You have reached the Bobs and SSS level of TDS!

I'm not sure how many credible accusations of sexual misconduct it takes to get people to doubt Trump. Two dozen isn't enough.... 100... 1000... the entire female population of the world?

Beebs52 wrote:

silverscreenselect wrote:

tlynn78 wrote: Congratulations! You have reached the Bobs and SSS level of TDS!

I'm not sure how many credible accusations of sexual misconduct it takes to get people to doubt Trump. Two dozen isn't enough.... 100... 1000... the entire female population of the world?

Credible assumes proven. Heard the term "target" or "deep pockets" before, mr lawyer? I will lose my metoo card but E Jean is a nutball. Listen to her or read what she's written. Uh huh. Did you see Cooper's interview?

BackInTex wrote:

Beebs52 wrote:

silverscreenselect wrote:
I'm not sure how many credible accusations of sexual misconduct it takes to get people to doubt Trump. Two dozen isn't enough.... 100... 1000... the entire female population of the world?

Credible assumes proven. Heard the term "target" or "deep pockets" before, mr lawyer? I will lose my metoo card but E Jean is a nutball. Listen to her or read what she's written. Uh huh. Did you see Cooper's interview?

I heard snippets. I believe she may have seen a news story about this young handsome billionaire real estate tycoon and simply had a fantasy that 50 years later at her current age seems real.

Bob78164 wrote:

BackInTex wrote:

Beebs52 wrote:
Credible assumes proven. Heard the term "target" or "deep pockets" before, mr lawyer? I will lose my metoo card but E Jean is a nutball. Listen to her or read what she's written. Uh huh. Did you see Cooper's interview?

I heard snippets. I believe she may have seen a news story about this young handsome billionaire real estate tycoon and simply had a fantasy that 50 years later at her current age seems real.

And yet you all (excluding sss) seem to believe Juanita Broadderick, who denied under oath the account she later pushed. --Bob

Beebs52 wrote:

Bob78164 wrote:

BackInTex wrote:
I heard snippets. I believe she may have seen a news story about this young handsome billionaire real estate tycoon and simply had a fantasy that 50 years later at her current age seems real.

And yet you all (excluding sss) seem to believe Juanita Broadderick, who denied under oath the account she later pushed. --Bob

Yep

Bob78164 wrote:

Beebs52 wrote:

Bob78164 wrote:And yet you all (excluding sss) seem to believe Juanita Broadderick, who denied under oath the account she later pushed. --Bob

Yep

And I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that if Donny had run for and won office as a Democrat, you'd believe Ms. Carroll as well. --Bob