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Aeromexico's Ad in Response to Donald Trump

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:43 am
by Bob Juch

Re: Aeromexico's Ad in Response to Donald Trump

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:53 am
by triviawayne
they have a blank ad?

Re: Aeromexico's Ad in Response to Donald Trump

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:56 am
by BackInTex
That's funny, right there.

Mexico has one of he strictest and most heavy-handedly enforced boarders in North America, and quite possibly the entire Americas. Not to mention most of the country is a hell-hole filled with corruption and violence and the government doesn't provide for the welfare for its poorest citizens.

And they want to lecture us?

Re: Aeromexico's Ad in Response to Donald Trump

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:19 am
by silverscreenselect
BackInTex wrote:And they want to lecture us?
I'd venture they've got a better President.

Re: Aeromexico's Ad in Response to Donald Trump

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:44 am
by Bob Juch
triviawayne wrote:they have a blank ad?
Blank? Not for me.

Re: Aeromexico's Ad in Response to Donald Trump

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:16 pm
by BackInTex
silverscreenselect wrote:
BackInTex wrote:And they want to lecture us?
I'd venture they've got a better President.
What, someone who allows the drug cartels to run the country for him? Your standards are unsurprising.

Re: Aeromexico's Ad in Response to Donald Trump

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:49 pm
by triviawayne
Bob Juch wrote:
triviawayne wrote:they have a blank ad?
Blank? Not for me.
is here. must be a work thing. i'll have to check the phone later to see it.

Re: Aeromexico's Ad in Response to Donald Trump

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:58 pm
by silverscreenselect
BackInTex wrote:What, someone who allows the drug cartels to run the country for him? Your standards are unsurprising.
Drug cartels; Goldman Sachs and Big Pharma ... Six of one...

Re: Aeromexico's Ad in Response to Donald Trump

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:24 pm
by BackInTex
silverscreenselect wrote:
BackInTex wrote:What, someone who allows the drug cartels to run the country for him? Your standards are unsurprising.
Drug cartels; Goldman Sachs and Big Pharma ... Six of one...
Given Goldman Sachs paid HRC $675K to speak three times and that her s-i-l worked there, I'm assuming you approve of that relationship with Goldman Sachs as you are an HRC superfan, so as "Six of one..." is your quote, I will also assume you think the same, you approve, of the relationship with the drug cartels.

Damn I glad she didn't win.

Re: Aeromexico's Ad in Response to Donald Trump

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:44 pm
by Bob Juch
BackInTex wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:
BackInTex wrote:What, someone who allows the drug cartels to run the country for him? Your standards are unsurprising.
Drug cartels; Goldman Sachs and Big Pharma ... Six of one...
Given Goldman Sachs paid HRC $675K to speak three times and that her s-i-l worked there, I'm assuming you approve of that relationship with Goldman Sachs as you are an HRC superfan, so as "Six of one..." is your quote, I will also assume you think the same, you approve, of the relationship with the drug cartels.

Damn I glad she didn't win.
Yeah, otherwise we'd have all sort of Goldman Sachs people in the administration.

Re: Aeromexico's Ad in Response to Donald Trump

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:59 pm
by BackInTex
Bob Juch wrote:
BackInTex wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:
Drug cartels; Goldman Sachs and Big Pharma ... Six of one...
Given Goldman Sachs paid HRC $675K to speak three times and that her s-i-l worked there, I'm assuming you approve of that relationship with Goldman Sachs as you are an HRC superfan, so as "Six of one..." is your quote, I will also assume you think the same, you approve, of the relationship with the drug cartels.

Damn I glad she didn't win.
Yeah, otherwise we'd have all sort of Goldman Sachs people in the administration.
Yeah, that would be terrible to have people experienced in how things in the real world work running things.

Re: Aeromexico's Ad in Response to Donald Trump

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:38 pm
by silverscreenselect
BackInTex wrote:
Yeah, that would be terrible to have people experienced in how things in the real world work running things.
The next time a member of your family needs surgery, hire the CEO of a Fortune 500 company. He's experienced in how the real world works.

Re: Aeromexico's Ad in Response to Donald Trump

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:02 pm
by BackInTex
silverscreenselect wrote:
BackInTex wrote:
Yeah, that would be terrible to have people experienced in how things in the real world work running things.
The next time a member of your family needs surgery, hire the CEO of a Fortune 500 company. He's experienced in how the real world works.
So what you are saying is that political appointments should only be given to folks who've only worked in political positions? Only to folks who haven't a clue how the 98% live, work, earn a living? Got it.

Re: Aeromexico's Ad in Response to Donald Trump

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:06 pm
by Bob78164
BackInTex wrote:Yeah, that would be terrible to have people experienced in how things in the real world work running things.
Nobody with any experience in how things in the real world work would have threatened to invade Mexico, particularly in a call with the President of Mexico. Or separate a badly burned boy from both of his parents. --Bob

Re: Aeromexico's Ad in Response to Donald Trump

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:18 pm
by BackInTex
Bob78164 wrote:
BackInTex wrote:Yeah, that would be terrible to have people experienced in how things in the real world work running things.
Nobody with any experience in how things in the real world work would have threatened to invade Mexico, particularly in a call with the President of Mexico. Or separate a badly burned boy from both of his parents. --Bob
Yeah, they kind of would. Not everyone wins Bob. Sorry, this is the real world. When tough decisions are made, there will always be the single one exception trolls like yourself can find to say "Well look at this!". No war is without its innocent casualties. I'm thankful spineless ninnies like yourself don't run things because it would be a short run until someone else (i.e. foreign power) takes over. The real world isn't all roses and skittles.

Re: Aeromexico's Ad in Response to Donald Trump

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:21 pm
by Bob78164
BackInTex wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:
BackInTex wrote:Yeah, that would be terrible to have people experienced in how things in the real world work running things.
Nobody with any experience in how things in the real world work would have threatened to invade Mexico, particularly in a call with the President of Mexico. Or separate a badly burned boy from both of his parents. --Bob
Yeah, they kind of would. Not everyone wins Bob. Sorry, this is the real world. When tough decisions are made, there will always be the single one exception trolls like yourself can find to say "Well look at this!". No war is without its innocent casualties. I'm thankful spineless ninnies like yourself don't run things because it would be a short run until someone else (i.e. foreign power) takes over. The real world isn't all roses and skittles.
We're not at war with this kid's parents. In fact, not one person from any of the countries Donny has illegally banned has launched an attack against the United States. Which isn't true about the four countries Donny exempted from his ban because he doesn't want to interfere with his own business operations. --Bob

Re: Aeromexico's Ad in Response to Donald Trump

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:28 pm
by Bob Juch
BackInTex wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:
BackInTex wrote:
Yeah, that would be terrible to have people experienced in how things in the real world work running things.
The next time a member of your family needs surgery, hire the CEO of a Fortune 500 company. He's experienced in how the real world works.
So what you are saying is that political appointments should only be given to folks who've only worked in political positions? Only to folks who haven't a clue how the 98% live, work, earn a living? Got it.
No, but it would be nice to have a Secretary of Education who's actually worked in education, a Secretary of Housing who's worked in housing, a Secretary of Commerce who knows about commerce instead of bankruptcies, a Secretary of Labor who knows more than fast-food, a Secretary of the Treasury who knows more than foreclosures, a Secretary of Agriculture who knew about agriculture, etc.

Re: Aeromexico's Ad in Response to Donald Trump

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:34 pm
by BackInTex
Bob78164 wrote:We're not at war with this kid's parents. In fact, not one person from any of the countries Donny has illegally banned has launched an attack against the United States. Which isn't true about the four countries Donny exempted from his ban because he doesn't want to interfere with his own business operations. --Bob
President Trump did not pick the countries. Barry did.

Now I've used it twice.

Re: Aeromexico's Ad in Response to Donald Trump

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:41 pm
by BackInTex
Bob Juch wrote:
BackInTex wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:
The next time a member of your family needs surgery, hire the CEO of a Fortune 500 company. He's experienced in how the real world works.
So what you are saying is that political appointments should only be given to folks who've only worked in political positions? Only to folks who haven't a clue how the 98% live, work, earn a living? Got it.
No, but it would be nice to have a Secretary of Education who's actually worked in education, a Secretary of Housing who's worked in housing, a Secretary of Commerce who knows about commerce instead of bankruptcies, a Secretary of Labor who knows more than fast-food, a Secretary of the Treasury who knows more than foreclosures, a Secretary of Agriculture who knew about agriculture, etc.
What labor experience did Robert Reich have? He never employed anyone.
Neither did Thomas Perez, a lawyer. Or Hilda Solis, never had to make a payroll.

Re: Aeromexico's Ad in Response to Donald Trump

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:43 am
by Bob78164
And military officials are saying that Donny screwed up his first military decision. The men and women who put their lives on the line for us deserve better.
Reuters wrote:U.S. military officials told Reuters that Trump approved his first covert counterterrorism operation without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations.

As a result, three officials said, the attacking SEAL team found itself dropping onto a reinforced al Qaeda base defended by landmines, snipers, and a larger than expected contingent of heavily armed Islamist extremists.
Concerns about the adequacy of intelligence are why President Obama didn't green light the operation. Perhaps now that the current Commander in Chief has personally discharged the responsibility of conveying condolences to the family of a service member, he'll be more careful in the future. But the White House's continued bellicose language leaves me very skeptical. --Bob

Re: Aeromexico's Ad in Response to Donald Trump

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:55 am
by Beebs52
Bob78164 wrote:
BackInTex wrote:Yeah, that would be terrible to have people experienced in how things in the real world work running things.
Nobody with any experience in how things in the real world work would have threatened to invade Mexico, particularly in a call with the President of Mexico. Or separate a badly burned boy from both of his parents. --Bob

Care to update?
https://www.google.com/amp/www.independ ... tmobile-us

Re: Aeromexico's Ad in Response to Donald Trump

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:27 am
by BackInTex
Bob78164 wrote:Concerns about the adequacy of intelligence are why President Obama didn't green light the operation.
Where the hell did you pull that out of? The article you linked to says nothing of the sort. Nothing. You made it up. I'll let Flock tag it.

The truth is, you have no idea why the raid was not authorized by Obama. It could have been because he had several close friends there.
A White House official said the operation was thoroughly vetted by the previous administration and that the previous defense secretary had signed off on it in January. The raid was delayed for operational reasons, the White House official said.
Says nothing about the adequacy of the intelligence. It says operational reasons. That could be anything from not having the necessary personnel, equipment, or support teams in place, or the weather.

Re: Aeromexico's Ad in Response to Donald Trump

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:40 am
by tlynn78
Beebs52 wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:
BackInTex wrote:Yeah, that would be terrible to have people experienced in how things in the real world work running things.
Nobody with any experience in how things in the real world work would have threatened to invade Mexico, particularly in a call with the President of Mexico. Or separate a badly burned boy from both of his parents. --Bob

Care to update?
https://www.google.com/amp/www.independ ... tmobile-us

Oh, Sweetie, don't burst their little bubbles. They'll just froth out more. And you might get some on you.

Re: Aeromexico's Ad in Response to Donald Trump

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:45 am
by Beebs52
tlynn78 wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:Nobody with any experience in how things in the real world work would have threatened to invade Mexico, particularly in a call with the President of Mexico. Or separate a badly burned boy from both of his parents. --Bob

Care to update?
https://www.google.com/amp/www.independ ... tmobile-us

Oh, Sweetie, don't burst their little bubbles. They'll just froth out more. And you might get some on you.
Bless my heart.

Re: Aeromexico's Ad in Response to Donald Trump

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:48 am
by Bob78164
BackInTex wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:Concerns about the adequacy of intelligence are why President Obama didn't green light the operation.
Where the hell did you pull that out of? The article you linked to says nothing of the sort. Nothing. You made it up. I'll let Flock tag it.

The truth is, you have no idea why the raid was not authorized by Obama. It could have been because he had several close friends there.
Well, there's this quote from the article I linked: "The decision was made ... to leave it to the incoming administration, partly in the hope that more and better intelligence could be collected,” that official said.

Or, we could use this article:
Reuters wrote:U.S. military officials told Reuters that Trump approved his first covert counterterrorism operation without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations.

As a result, three officials said, the attacking SEAL team found itself dropping onto a reinforced al Qaeda base defended by landmines, snipers, and a larger than expected contingent of heavily armed Islamist extremists.
This isn't me making anything up. This is U.S. military officials, who pretty much had to be in the room when the decision was made.

I hate to burst your bubble (not really). But as citizens, we owe it to our military to be sure our government uses them both appropriately and competently. Donny's first decision suggests that he fell down on this aspect of the job. Let's see whether he learns from his mistakes. --Bob