Alternative facts

[Pastor Fireball]

That's the new politically correct term for "lies that Republicans tell", invented earlier today by Kellyanne Conway.

And here, I thought the Pumpkinfuhrer hated political correctness.

[silverscreenselect]

It's not new. I've heard plenty of "alternative facts" about the moon landing, the Holocaust, and Obama's birthplace.

Trump is exceeding my expectations. He's only been President a little more than 48 hours and he's already got two catchphrases that will forever be associated with him: "American carnage" and "alternative facts." Maybe he's just going through the alphabet. I can't wait to hear the B's... maybe next week.

[a1mamacat]

I am gobsmacked at both of the new phrases.

Alternative facts = what you should see instead of what you did see.

Verifiable falsehood = a big fat Lie that we are being polite about discussing.

[Bob78164]

I am gobsmacked at both of the new phrases.

Alternative facts = what you should see instead of what you did see.

Verifiable falsehood = a big fat Lie that we are being polite about discussing.

The New York Times news coverage about Donald yesterday was quite blunt. The story didn't use the word "liar," but it certainly didn't shy away from the concept. --Bob

[ghostjmf]

I love that he had to be dissuaded from rolling mega-ton tanks through DC streets by being told how they would wreck the streets. Dissuaded for a time anyway. "Love" is sarcastic here, for any sarcasm-impaired.

[Bob Juch]

I am gobsmacked at both of the new phrases.

Alternative facts = what you should see instead of what you did see.

Verifiable falsehood = a big fat Lie that we are being polite about discussing.

It's called Newspeak.

[elwoodblues]

I am proud of the Dallas Stars.

[BackInTex]

I love that he had to be dissuaded from rolling mega-ton tanks through DC streets by being told how they would wreck the streets. Dissuaded for a time anyway. "Love" is sarcastic here, for any sarcasm-impaired.

Where did you get that info from? There is no verifiable source of that made up obviously fake to anyone with a brain news.

[silverscreenselect]

There is no verifiable source of that made up obviously fake to anyone with a brain news.

An apt description of much of what Trump supporters believe in.

[silverscreenselect]

There is no verifiable source of that made up obviously fake to anyone with a brain news.

An apt description of much of what Trump supporters believe in.

The source appears to be an unverified report in the Huffington Post. Nonetheless it was picked up by the San Diego Union Tribune and the New York Post (neither exactly left wing newspapers), among others.

http://www.snopes.com/trump-military-inaugural-parade/

[jarnon]

I love that he had to be dissuaded from rolling mega-ton tanks through DC streets by being told how they would wreck the streets. Dissuaded for a time anyway. "Love" is sarcastic here, for any sarcasm-impaired.

Where did you get that info from? There is no verifiable source of that made up obviously fake to anyone with a brain news.

Snopes.com says the story, from one liberal source, that Trump wanted tanks in his inaugural parade, is "unverified." Nobody has suggested that he wanted to use tanks to intimidate protesters (though that story could be scary enough to go viral).

[jarnon]

In the 2-day-old administration's feud with the press, there have been two untruths by the White House (the inauguration crowd was the biggest ever, and the media fabricated the President-Elect's rift with the intelligence community), and one by Time magazine (Dr. King's bust was removed from the Oval Office). I hope the administration starts acting like a government instead of a campaign.

[Bob78164]

In the 2-day-old administration's feud with the press, there have been two untruths by the White House (the inauguration crowd was the biggest ever, and the media fabricated the President-Elect's rift with the intelligence community), and one by Time magazine (Dr. King's bust was removed from the Oval Office). I hope the administration starts acting like a government instead of a campaign.

The two are not equivalent. Time acknowledged, corrected, and apologized for its error. --Bob

[Bob Juch]

In the 2-day-old administration's feud with the press, there have been two untruths by the White House (the inauguration crowd was the biggest ever, and the media fabricated the President-Elect's rift with the intelligence community), and one by Time magazine (Dr. King's bust was removed from the Oval Office). I hope the administration starts acting like a government instead of a campaign.

There's another untruth from the White House: Simultaneously with claiming the crowds were the largest ever, they explained that the reason the crowds on the Mall were small was because of the magnetometers slowed down entry. There were no magnetometers used on the Mall.

[Bob78164]

Here's the worst problem with this. If the Administration will willfully lie to the American people about something this trivial, how can we possibly trust the Administration on issues we can't check, such as the reason to send our armed forces into harm's way? --Bob

[Estonut]

Here's the worst problem with this. If the Administration will willfully lie to the American people about something this trivial, how can we possibly trust the Administration on issues we can't check, such as the reason to send our armed forces into harm's way?

Where was this concern when Hillary was doing the lying?

[ghostjmf]

Just for the record, my source for the "tanks comment" was NPR's inauguration coverage, saying "I heard that".

Trump also wants a new holiday, called something like "America Appreciation Day", which involves the military. Dunno if they will be driving tanks or not, but apparently DJ has never heard of "the 4th of July".

He also doesn't seem to realize that tank parades are done in dictatorships, & often involve the same 10 tanks, all the country's got, going around the block.

[BackInTex]

Just for the record, my source for the "tanks comment" was NPR's inauguration coverage, saying "I heard that".

Trump also wants a new holiday, called something like "America Appreciation Day", which involves the military. Dunno if they will be driving tanks or not, but apparently DJ has never heard of "the 4th of July".

He also doesn't seem to realize that tank parades are done in dictatorships, & often involve the same 10 tanks, all the country's got, going around the block.

You don't seem to realize that "I heard that" doesn't mean anything.

I heard Michelle Obama has a penis and have seen pictures that seem to indicate it. Do I think that? No. Do I make posts saying she does? Hell no.

Stop the foolishness.

[silverscreenselect]

Here's the worst problem with this. If the Administration will willfully lie to the American people about something this trivial, how can we possibly trust the Administration on issues we can't check, such as the reason to send our armed forces into harm's way?

Where was this concern when Hillary was doing the lying?

Well, for one reason, Hillary didn't lie nearly as much, and, when confronted would fess up (like the gunfire on the airport). Trump, when confronted, doubles down, attacks his accusers, repeats the lies and then lies some more.

[Bob Juch]

Here's Snopes: http://www.snopes.com/trump-military-inaugural-parade/

[jarnon]

I'm watching Spicer's first normal news conference, and yes, it's normal. He said one issue Trump is already working on is improving government efficiency, including "eliminating duplicity." I hope that, after Spicer finds out what "duplicity" means, he's still in favor of eliminating it.

[jarnon]

Spicer has clarified that he was talking about the total audience who saw Trump's inauguration, in person, on TV, and on new media that didn't exist during previous inaugurations. And Trump's disagreement was with some intelligence leaders in the previous administration, but he has great respect for the intelligence community as a whole.

[Bob78164]

Spicer has clarified that he was talking about the total audience who saw Trump's inauguration, in person, on TV, and on new media that didn't exist during previous inaugurations. And his disagreement was with some intelligence leaders in the previous administration, but he has great respect for the intelligence community as a whole.

Doesn't explain the flat-out falsehoods he was telling about mass transit usage and magnetometers on the Mall. And he's forfeited his credibility, so there's no reason to believe that his revised statement is true without some actual evidence beyond his say-so.

I read yesterday that a day or two before the inauguration, someone (I think it may have been David Frum) said something like, "A press secretary is rationed one lie per career. Spend it wisely." <Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade>He chose poorly.</Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade> --Bob

[silverscreenselect]

I read yesterday that a day or two before the inauguration, someone (I think it may have been David Frum) said something like, "A press secretary is rationed one lie per career. Spend it wisely." <Indiana Jones and the Holy Grail>He chose poorly.</Indiana Jones and the Holy Grail> --Bob

In this administration, a press secretary is rationed one lie per sentence, and even then Spicer is going to run into trouble.

And it's Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.

[Bob78164]

I read yesterday that a day or two before the inauguration, someone (I think it may have been David Frum) said something like, "A press secretary is rationed one lie per career. Spend it wisely." <Indiana Jones and the Holy Grail>He chose poorly.</Indiana Jones and the Holy Grail> --Bob

In this administration, a press secretary is rationed one lie per sentence, and even then Spicer is going to run into trouble.

And it's Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.

Thanks. I'll fix it. --Bob