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RIP Leonard Cohen
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Bob Juch
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RIP Leonard Cohen
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.
- Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001)
Si fractum non sit, noli id reficere.
Teach a child to be polite and courteous in the home and, when he grows up, he'll never be able to drive in New Jersey.
- Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001)
Si fractum non sit, noli id reficere.
Teach a child to be polite and courteous in the home and, when he grows up, he'll never be able to drive in New Jersey.
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BackInTex
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Re: RIP Leonard Cohen
You're thinking of Ringo.ghostjmf wrote:No, no, no, no, no
..what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? let them take arms.
~~ Thomas Jefferson
War is where the government tells you who the bad guy is.
Revolution is when you decide that for yourself.
-- Benjamin Franklin (maybe)
~~ Thomas Jefferson
War is where the government tells you who the bad guy is.
Revolution is when you decide that for yourself.
-- Benjamin Franklin (maybe)
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Ritterskoop
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Re: RIP Leonard Cohen
I just wanted to say out loud that I have always thought "Hallelujah" was about sex and that I think it's little creepy they play it on TV shows when someone dies.
Except kd lang can sing it anytime she wants and for any reason, cause damn.
Except kd lang can sing it anytime she wants and for any reason, cause damn.
If you fail to pilot your own ship, don't be surprised at what inappropriate port you find yourself docked. - Tom Robbins
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At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you. - attributed to Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.
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At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you. - attributed to Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.
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ghostjmf
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Re: RIP Leonard Cohen
There are 7 or more verses Cohen has sung at one time or another. Taken from various albums there are 7, I think. I have files saved but can't link from this tablet. At any rate, at funerals people generally leave the "Bathsheba/Delilah w/ a little S&M thrown in" 2nd verse out, which they probably shouldn't because the 1st verse *is* about King David, & the "dove of sex" verse out, which I would definitely leave out if I were singing it.
The Buckley version kept the "dove of sex" verse but left out the verse Cohen always closed with.
Haven't heard Lang version but will play it when I'm not paying for connect time.
Buckley learned song from John Cale recording. Cale had asked Cohen for lyrics & was faxed "15 verses", according to story.
While Cohen was writing song, friends found him in his hotel room "in his underwear, bsnging his head on the floor, surrounded by 80 verses".
Its not easy being a poet.
For some.
Reportedly, Cohen suffered from severe depression until the last 10 or 20 years of his life
I tend to think the "15 verses" & "80 verses" were really "15 "pages" & "80 *pages*" but maybe not.
The Buckley version kept the "dove of sex" verse but left out the verse Cohen always closed with.
Haven't heard Lang version but will play it when I'm not paying for connect time.
Buckley learned song from John Cale recording. Cale had asked Cohen for lyrics & was faxed "15 verses", according to story.
While Cohen was writing song, friends found him in his hotel room "in his underwear, bsnging his head on the floor, surrounded by 80 verses".
Its not easy being a poet.
For some.
Reportedly, Cohen suffered from severe depression until the last 10 or 20 years of his life
I tend to think the "15 verses" & "80 verses" were really "15 "pages" & "80 *pages*" but maybe not.
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ghostjmf
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Re: RIP Leonard Cohen
The producer of the album "Various Positions", on which "Hallelujah" 1st appeared, who in interviews allows he tweaked the tune "a little", knew they had a hit, but the label didn't & didn't even put the album out in the US. (It was eventually released here on a tiny label.) So he never signed the contract to get paid as arranger for future royalties from cover versions. He's philosophical about it.
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Bob Juch
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Re: RIP Leonard Cohen
I believe the video I linked to has all the verses.ghostjmf wrote:There are 7 or more verses Cohen has sung at one time or another. Taken from various albums there are 7, I think. I have files saved but can't link from this tablet. At any rate, at funerals people generally leave the "Bathsheba/Delilah w/ a little S&M thrown in" 2nd verse out, which they probably shouldn't because the 1st verse *is* about King David, & the "dove of sex" verse out, which I would definitely leave out if I were singing it.
The Buckley version kept the "dove of sex" verse but left out the verse Cohen always closed with.
Haven't heard Lang version but will play it when I'm not paying for connect time.
Buckley learned song from John Cale recording. Cale had asked Cohen for lyrics & was faxed "15 verses", according to story.
While Cohen was writing song, friends found him in his hotel room "in his underwear, bsnging his head on the floor, surrounded by 80 verses".
Its not easy being a poet. For some.
Reportedly, Cohen suffered from severe depression until the last 10 or 20 years of his life
I tend to think the "15 verses" & "80 verses" were really "15 *pages" & "80 *pages*" but maybe not.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.
- Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001)
Si fractum non sit, noli id reficere.
Teach a child to be polite and courteous in the home and, when he grows up, he'll never be able to drive in New Jersey.
- Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001)
Si fractum non sit, noli id reficere.
Teach a child to be polite and courteous in the home and, when he grows up, he'll never be able to drive in New Jersey.
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Bob Juch
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Re: RIP Leonard Cohen
This is a fascinating article: There Is a Crack in Everything, That’s How the Light Gets In: Leonard Cohen on Democracy and Its Redemptions
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.
- Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001)
Si fractum non sit, noli id reficere.
Teach a child to be polite and courteous in the home and, when he grows up, he'll never be able to drive in New Jersey.
- Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001)
Si fractum non sit, noli id reficere.
Teach a child to be polite and courteous in the home and, when he grows up, he'll never be able to drive in New Jersey.
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ghostjmf
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Re: RIP Leonard Cohen
here's one of those "many verses" links: http://rsrevision.com/hallelujah.htm
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ghostjmf
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Re: RIP Leonard Cohen
an excellent article on "Hallelujah", the writing/recording of: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ ... n-20121203
This article ends w/ a clip of Cohen singing "Save the Last Dance For Me" at the end of his massive last world tour: http://theweek.com/articles/661387/leon ... hallelujah
It just cracks me up. And is very gracious.
This article ends w/ a clip of Cohen singing "Save the Last Dance For Me" at the end of his massive last world tour: http://theweek.com/articles/661387/leon ... hallelujah
It just cracks me up. And is very gracious.
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Bob Juch
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Re: RIP Leonard Cohen
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.
- Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001)
Si fractum non sit, noli id reficere.
Teach a child to be polite and courteous in the home and, when he grows up, he'll never be able to drive in New Jersey.
- Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001)
Si fractum non sit, noli id reficere.
Teach a child to be polite and courteous in the home and, when he grows up, he'll never be able to drive in New Jersey.
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ghostjmf
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Re: RIP Leonard Cohen
WBUR's On Point radio show today did a program on Cohen, interviewing Alan Light, who wrote a book on the song "Hallelujah", & John Lissauer, who produced "New Skin for the Old Ceremony" & "Various Positions", the album w/ "Dance Me to the End of Love" & "Hallujah" on it. They also played excerpts from a Terry Gross interview w/ Cohen I hope she'll replay on Fresh Air.