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...Trump was indicted or arrested on Federal charges before January 20th and he "resigns"? There is no provision for the VP nominee to become President, right?

Bob Juch wrote:...Trump was indicted or arrested on Federal charges before January 20th and he "resigns"? There is no provision for the VP nominee to become President, right?

Kiefer Sutherland becomes President.

This comes up every four years, although usually the word "death" is in place of "indicted"

If a winning Presidential candidate dies or becomes incapacitated between the counting of electoral votes in Congress and the inauguration, the Vice President elect will become President, according to Section 3 of the 20th Amendment.

That word "incapacitated" would cover any reason.

Beyond that, as I'm sure he would make bail if indicted, he would still be sworn in.

silverscreenselect wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:...Trump was indicted or arrested on Federal charges before January 20th and he "resigns"? There is no provision for the VP nominee to become President, right?

Kiefer Sutherland becomes President.

Only for 24 hours (excluding time for commercial breaks)...

lb13

littlebeast13 wrote:

silverscreenselect wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:...Trump was indicted or arrested on Federal charges before January 20th and he "resigns"? There is no provision for the VP nominee to become President, right?

Kiefer Sutherland becomes President.

Only for 24 hours (excluding time for commercial breaks)...

I am SHOCKED that lb is unaware of Kiefer's new show...

http://abc.go.com/shows/designated-surv ... t-the-show

triviawayne wrote:This comes up every four years, although usually the word "death" is in place of "indicted"

If a winning Presidential candidate dies or becomes incapacitated between the counting of electoral votes in Congress and the inauguration, the Vice President elect will become President, according to Section 3 of the 20th Amendment.

That word "incapacitated" would cover any reason.

Beyond that, as I'm sure he would make bail if indicted, he would still be sworn in.

The 20th Amendment does not use the word "incapacitated"; the reasons are "died" or "failed to qualify".

So that would mean Pence acts as President until we have a whole new election.

Bob Juch wrote:

triviawayne wrote:This comes up every four years, although usually the word "death" is in place of "indicted"

If a winning Presidential candidate dies or becomes incapacitated between the counting of electoral votes in Congress and the inauguration, the Vice President elect will become President, according to Section 3 of the 20th Amendment.

That word "incapacitated" would cover any reason.

Beyond that, as I'm sure he would make bail if indicted, he would still be sworn in.

The 20th Amendment does not use the word "incapacitated"; the reasons are "died" or "failed to qualify".

So that would mean Pence acts as President until we have a whole new election.

Section 3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

Estonut wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:

triviawayne wrote:This comes up every four years, although usually the word "death" is in place of "indicted"

If a winning Presidential candidate dies or becomes incapacitated between the counting of electoral votes in Congress and the inauguration, the Vice President elect will become President, according to Section 3 of the 20th Amendment.

That word "incapacitated" would cover any reason.

Beyond that, as I'm sure he would make bail if indicted, he would still be sworn in.

The 20th Amendment does not use the word "incapacitated"; the reasons are "died" or "failed to qualify".

So that would mean Pence acts as President until we have a whole new election.

Section 3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

Yeah, I read that. Thanks for agreeing with me for a change,

Bob Juch wrote:

Estonut wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:The 20th Amendment does not use the word "incapacitated"; the reasons are "died" or "failed to qualify".

So that would mean Pence acts as President until we have a whole new election.

Section 3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

Yeah, I read that. Thanks for agreeing with me for a change,

Read it again. It doesn't say anything about an election. There is one possible path where Congress may determine "the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected."

Estonut wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:

Estonut wrote:Section 3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

Yeah, I read that. Thanks for agreeing with me for a change,

Read it again. It doesn't say anything about an election. There is one possible path where Congress may determine "the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected."

It says, "the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified." How else would a President become qualified?

Bob Juch wrote:

Estonut wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:Yeah, I read that. Thanks for agreeing with me for a change,

Read it again. It doesn't say anything about an election. There is one possible path where Congress may determine "the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected."

It says, "the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified." How else would a President become qualified?

Uhhh, by meeting all of the Constitution's qualifications to be president.

Estonut wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:

Estonut wrote:Read it again. It doesn't say anything about an election. There is one possible path where Congress may determine "the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected."

It says, "the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified." How else would a President become qualified?

Uhhh, by meeting all of the Constitution's qualifications to be president.

And how would he be chosen?

Bob Juch wrote:

Estonut wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:It says, "the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified." How else would a President become qualified?

Uhhh, by meeting all of the Constitution's qualifications to be president.

And how would he be chosen?

Ask flock, he speaks with the Founding Fathers on a ouija board...

Seems to me like Eeny Meeny Miney Moe is just as Constitutional in this instance as another election (heaven forbid)...

lb13

littlebeast13 wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:

Estonut wrote:Uhhh, by meeting all of the Constitution's qualifications to be president.

And how would he be chosen?

Ask flock, he speaks with the Founding Fathers on a ouija board...

Seems to me like Eeny Meeny Miney Moe is just as Constitutional in this instance as another election (heaven forbid)...

lb13

Yeah, the amendment provided for Congress to make a law covering that but as best as I can tell they did not.

Bob Juch wrote:

Estonut wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:It says, "the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified." How else would a President become qualified?

Uhhh, by meeting all of the Constitution's qualifications to be president.

And how would he be chosen?

I'm guessing an example would be a 33-year-old person runs for President and gets elected. He or she would have to sit on the sidelines until turning 35.

K.P. wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:

Estonut wrote:Uhhh, by meeting all of the Constitution's qualifications to be president.

And how would he be chosen?

I'm guessing an example would be a 33-year-old person runs for President and gets elected. He or she would have to sit on the sidelines until turning 35.

Probably not. It says, "a President", not "the President elect."

Bob Juch wrote:

K.P. wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:And how would he be chosen?

I'm guessing an example would be a 33-year-old person runs for President and gets elected. He or she would have to sit on the sidelines until turning 35.

Probably not. It says, "a President", not "the President elect."

I was thinking you must have suffered a head injury, as you are being more dense than usual. I then realized your head should be well protected by your ass and lower abdomen.

The first clause says "a President." The one you're arguing about says "the President elect."

Bob Juch wrote:

Estonut wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:It says, "the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified." How else would a President become qualified?

Uhhh, by meeting all of the Constitution's qualifications to be president.

And how would he be chosen?

It says that Congress would determine "the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected."

Maybe you could have someone read this to you.