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Unexpected purchase

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:56 pm
by gsabc
Made the mistake of using my car to drive GW and BD around to our wedding planning sessions. It's noisy. The suspicion is that Honda has never owned up to strut and suspension problems on this version of the Civic, because it eats tires. In 125,000 miles, I've probably gone through four full sets, including the set I needed at 15,000 miles before they gave us new front struts for free in an apparent silent recall. It would probably be five sets, since the noise is due to the same issue, which we supposedly repaired again about a year ago.

I said would be. Looking up potential replacements, I see that Toyota is offering 0% financing on the 2009 Corollas. We liked our old Corolla, BD's car, and would have replaced it with another one last year if they hadn't still been so stodgy. Got her the new model Civic instead. Signed up online to get some dealer quotes. The only one to get back to me in three days has been the dealer right down the street, maybe 5 miles away. We went there tonight to test drive the thing.

Nothing spectacular about it. The new design is okay. Kinda looks like my old Civic. It drives well, has good acceleration, gets 35 mpg highway (theoretically) which is most of what I do. Still a bit stodgy, but then, so am I.

Initial offer is at MSRP, minus our trade. GW, who is cranky because of some dental work, says we won't do MSRP. We don't plan on buying immediately anyway, and so tell the salesman that we'd go think about it and come back in a few days. He asks what would be a good price. We turn it around and ask him the same thing. He goes away, comes back. Says it has been a bad sales day, and offers us essentially invoice price minus another $500 on the trade, which gets that up to the higher end of what I expected from it. We wait a week for the color we want, or rather I want since this is my car, and we're getting a new car. Truly didn't expect to buy tonight, but I don't think we'd do much better anywhere else. The proximity of the dealer is another plus. Next nearest is a half-hour away. And if they follow their quote, even the sales tax is rolled into the 0% payments. Not sure that'll happen, but pretty good if it does.

Haven't had a new car for Mom or Dad in over six years. It'll be nice. We even get one right off the truck, too. Meanwhile, in a telling note about our different lifestyles, my boss drove a new Porsche to work today. The old vehicle must have gotten dirty so he traded it in.

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:07 pm
by kayrharris
Congratulations on your purchase. Sounds like a very good deal. May you have many years of safe, economical travel.

Re: Unexpected purchase

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:20 pm
by KillerTomato
I've been considering dumping what I think is a lemon of a car myself, but it'll wait until I'm back from Hawaii. Everything I read about my car (a 2007 Civic) said that I could expect 30 city and 35 or better highway. I've been getting about 20 mpg, and a whopping 28 highway. I know I shouldn't expect exactly what's promised or what I read, but this is much below what I expected. Additionally, I've taken it in twice now for a leaking oil pan. They claim it's fixed...I'll find out soon; third time's a lemon!

The other day, I got a recall notice in the mail...problems with the ABS on my 2 year old car. When I get it fixed (hopefully next week), I'll have them check the oil pan. If it's still leaking (and I suspect it is), I'm going to threaten legal action unless they refund my money. What I want is a Prius...it's what I should have bought 2 years ago, but didn't. For the type of driving I do, I'd have no problem getting 40 mpg. And considering the price of gas, I think the old argument about the Prius not being worth the extra money unless gas was close to $4/gallon is moot at this point....

So, anyway, enjoy the Corolla! :-)

Re: Unexpected purchase

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:08 am
by gsabc
KillerTomato wrote:I've been considering dumping what I think is a lemon of a car myself, but it'll wait until I'm back from Hawaii. Everything I read about my car (a 2007 Civic) said that I could expect 30 city and 35 or better highway. I've been getting about 20 mpg, and a whopping 28 highway. I know I shouldn't expect exactly what's promised or what I read, but this is much below what I expected. Additionally, I've taken it in twice now for a leaking oil pan. They claim it's fixed...I'll find out soon; third time's a lemon!

The other day, I got a recall notice in the mail...problems with the ABS on my 2 year old car. When I get it fixed (hopefully next week), I'll have them check the oil pan. If it's still leaking (and I suspect it is), I'm going to threaten legal action unless they refund my money. What I want is a Prius...it's what I should have bought 2 years ago, but didn't. For the type of driving I do, I'd have no problem getting 40 mpg. And considering the price of gas, I think the old argument about the Prius not being worth the extra money unless gas was close to $4/gallon is moot at this point....

So, anyway, enjoy the Corolla! :-)
Hmm. BD has the 2007 Civic as well, but we haven't seen that recall notice. Not sure what her mileage is. Will have to ask.

Would have liked a Prius myself, but we liked our old Corolla and I was looking more at the 0% financing in any case. We were looking at a near-term layout of $500-600 for a set of new tires if we kept the 7-year-old Civic. I got a good and affordable price, and we'll own the car in full after 3 years. The only possible issue is that it's the first year with a new design. We've had bad luck with that in the past from other makes.

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:22 am
by ghostjmf
I didn't know Toyota was offering 0% down. This is tempting. I'm a Honda person myself, & would buy another good used Acura Integra in a heartbeat if they were even making them anymore. A friend who once had one agrees. But they're not making them anymore.

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:31 am
by Robyn
Congrats on the new car, Gordon. When we shopped for our oldest daughter's car 8 years ago now, she did most of her shopping online and we found out that dealers will go down to invoice plus or minus a few hundred dollars, depending on time of month and year. Since then, we have always priced out what we want using Edmunds and Kelly Blue Book and have never paid more than invoice plus $100 on the cars we've bought, even on the Xterra we just purchased for our son as a graduation present...they are hard to find and was fully loaded, too!

Enjoy the ride!

Re: Unexpected purchase

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:01 pm
by Appa23
gsabc wrote: Would have liked a Prius myself, but we liked our old Corolla and I was looking more at the 0% financing in any case.
I notice that many BBs here like the Prius.

Maybe you should not watch this Youtube video, as it makes completely skewers Prius owners, people who watch Rock of Love/Flava of Love/I Love New York, Asians, and lots of Youtube icons.

Lots of BBs as targets, in other words.

(It is a Bare Naked Ladies parody about Gay Asian Kittens)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwq86xhSKcA