Who's voting for Trump in North Carolina

[Bob Juch]

Nearly 7 in 10 voters backing Donald Trump in North Carolina believe the presidential election will have been rigged against him if he loses, according to a new poll.

Sixty-nine percent said the race will have been fixed should Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton win in the Public Policy Polling (PPP) survey released Tuesday.

Sixteen percent said if Clinton wins it will be because she legitimately earned more votes than Trump, the GOP’s presidential nominee.

Forty percent, meanwhile, said the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) will tilt the election in Clinton’s favor despite the fact the organization no longer exists.

Pollsters next found that 41 percent agreed with Trump’s statement last week that Clinton is “the devil,” contrasted with 42 percent who disagreed and 17 percent who were unsure.

Tuesday’s results also showed that 47 percent believed they witnessed footage of Iran collecting $400 million from the U.S.

Forty-six percent said they had not seen the video, which Trump seemingly admitted he had not actually viewed last Friday.

Forty-eight percent of Trump’s supporters in North Carolina additionally blamed Clinton and President Obama for Capt. Humayun Khan’s death in 2004, even though Obama was an Illinois legislator and Clinton was a senator at the time.

Thirty-nine percent viewed the U.S. Muslim soldier’s parents negatively after his father, Khizr Khan, criticized Trump at last month’s Democratic National Convention.

Thirty-nine percent viewed the Khan family negatively after the feud, while 11 percent had a positive opinion instead.

PPP conducted its latest sampling of 830 voters in North Carolina via landline telephone and online interviews from August 5 to 7. It has a 3.4 margin of error of percentage points.

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

Meanwhile in Florida
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pre ... en-support

fixed

[Bob Juch]

Meanwhile in Florida
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pre ... een-suppor

That gives a 404. I can tell from the link what the story was about. So what? Did you expect him to support Trump?

[jaybee]

You just can't fix stupid.

The soapbox of todays world will reach millions with just one click. The sheeple will follow the message simply because 'everyone else is - so it must be right'. God help us.

[SpacemanSpiff]

The soapbox of todays world will reach millions with just one click. The sheeple will follow the message simply because 'everyone else is - so it must be right'. God help us.

Kind of like my father-in-law who keeps forwarding every email he gets from his conservative Christian friends ("they're Christian, so it must be true" he says), and to which half the time I ignore, and the other half I will forward a Snopes page debunking it.

He actually stopped sending them to me (but not my wife, much to her chagrin). And at least he doesn't try to proselytize me anymore when I visit; I think he connected those times with the appearance of "The Watchtower" in prominent places in his house afterwards

[BackInTex]

Nearly 7 in 10 voters backing Donald Trump in North Carolina believe the presidential election will have been rigged against him if he loses, according to a new poll.

There is a difference between "voting" for Trump and "backing" Trump. A rather significant one. I assume based on your cut and paste, the poll was from people "backing" Trump.

Meanwhile supporters of Hillary believe Guam may tip over if too many people get on its shores and we landed on Mars and planted a flag. Not only that, people voting for Hillary elected people who believe those two things.

And some Hillary supporters even believe the international supply of oil has nothing to do with the domestic price of oil.

[Bob Juch]

Nearly 7 in 10 voters backing Donald Trump in North Carolina believe the presidential election will have been rigged against him if he loses, according to a new poll.

There is a difference between "voting" for Trump and "backing" Trump. A rather significant one. I assume based on your cut and paste, the poll was from people "backing" Trump.

Meanwhile supporters of Hillary believe Guam may tip over if too many people get on its shores and we landed on Mars and planted a flag. Not only that, people voting for Hillary elected people who believe those two things.

And some Hillary supporters even believe the international supply of oil has nothing to do with the domestic price of oil.

It says very clearly "voters backing Donald Trump" as opposed to "voters" or "backers".

What's your citation on Hillary's supporters' supposed beliefs? You didn't say "all" so what's the percentage?

[Bob Juch]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic ... -1.1433096

[silverscreenselect]

Michael Hayden, the ex-director of the National Security Agency and former head of the CIA, criticized Donald Trump on Tuesday for saying that "Second Amendment people" could stop Hillary from nominating Supreme Court justices. If someone "outside of the hall" said the same thing, Hayden argued, that person would "be in the back of a police wagon now, with the Secret Service questioning him."

"It suggests either a very bad taste reference to political assassination and an attempt at humor, or an incredible insensitivity," Hayden said on CNN's The Lead With Jake Tapper, via Media Matters. "It may be the latter, an incredible insensitivity to the prevalence of political assassination inside of American history, and how that is a topic that we don't ever come close to, even when we think we're trying to be light-hearted."

Hayden has been critical of Trump before and was among the 50 national security leaders who signed a letter opposing his candidacy.

I guess calling Hillary the devil and a monster wasn't enough (at the same time he also called her weak, so I guess that means she's a pretty puny monster).

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/h ... -amendment

[Pastor Fireball]

Michael Hayden, the ex-director of the National Security Agency and former head of the CIA, criticized Donald Trump on Tuesday for saying that "Second Amendment people" could stop Hillary from nominating Supreme Court justices. If someone "outside of the hall" said the same thing, Hayden argued, that person would "be in the back of a police wagon now, with the Secret Service questioning him."

"It suggests either a very bad taste reference to political assassination and an attempt at humor, or an incredible insensitivity," Hayden said on CNN's The Lead With Jake Tapper, via Media Matters. "It may be the latter, an incredible insensitivity to the prevalence of political assassination inside of American history, and how that is a topic that we don't ever come close to, even when we think we're trying to be light-hearted."

Hayden has been critical of Trump before and was among the 50 national security leaders who signed a letter opposing his candidacy.

I guess calling Hillary the devil and a monster wasn't enough (at the same time he also called her weak, so I guess that means she's a pretty puny monster).

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/h ... -amendment

While we're on the subject of Gen. Hayden, that reminds me of his interview with Joe Scarborough last week. It was a Trump discussion that literally left Joe and the rest of the Morning Joe panel speechless for several seconds. I talked about this video on a couple of other sites, where I made several references to Dr. Strangelove. To quote myself:

Unlike Merkin Muffley, [Trump] really does want to go down in history as the greatest mass murderer since Adolf Hitler.

[SpacemanSpiff]

Saw this is a local paper. I'm including the link, but quoting the relevant passage:

http://www.richmond.com/news/virginia/g ... 9f6fd.html

One sign for Republicans that the worst may be ahead: Democrats are cutting back on television advertising in Virginia and in Colorado, another battleground state in which polls show Clinton comfortably ahead. Broadcast outlets here say that Trump during the past week has made tentative inquiries about a modest ad buy.

I can't speak for Colorado, but I know that Mrs. Clinton was running a ton of TV ads here. I don't recall Trump running any (of course, he is the master of getting free publicity from the news media). I can't say if they're dropping off yet.

(BTW, if Mrs. Clinton wins Virginia, that would be three Presidential races in a row won by a Democrat in what has been considered to be a solidly red state.)

[jarnon]

Rudy Giuliani suffers from historical amnesia too (though at his age, it's understandable). In a speech on Monday, he thanked Mike Pence for supporting NYC after the World Trade Center attack. Then he said that in the eight years before Obama and Clinton took office, there were no successful Islamic terror attacks in the United States. In addition to faulty math (September 2001 to January 2009 is not quite eight years), he forgot these incidents (from the Global Terrorism Database):

07/04/2002: Hesham Mohamed Hadayet, an Egyptian-born man, opened fired at the El Al Israeli Airlines ticket counter at the Los Angeles Airport (LAX), killing two people and wounding four others. Hadayet was killed by security personel during the attack. Early reports from police and witnesses recount that Hadayet shot the El Al ticket agent, turned his weapon on passengers in line, was then tackled and subdued by a guard who was reportedly stabbed by Hadayet, and was finally shot at by an El Al security guard. CNN reports that US authorities believed that Hadayet espoused anti-Israeli views, opposed US policies in the Middle East, and conducted the attack in the efforts of being a martyr. The victims of the attack were all reportedly Israeli.

7/28/2006: Naveed Afzal Haq forced his way into Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle, headquarters of the philanthropic organization, building by holding a gun to the head of a teenage girl. He then shot 6 women working there, killing one of them and injuring the other five. One of the victims called 911. Dispatchers calmed Haq and he exited the building with his hands on his head, where police arrested him.

[jarnon]

Selective memory isn't just a Republican problem. Obama has condemned terrorist attacks in Belgium, France, Turkey and even Bangladesh, but he never mentioned the 13-year-old Israeli-American dual citizen who was murdered in her sleep in the West Bank in June.

I'm starting to rant, but this shit bothers me.

[Pastor Fireball]

Rudy Giuliani suffers from historical amnesia too (though at his age, it's understandable). In a speech on Monday, he thanked Mike Pence for supporting NYC after the World Trade Center attack. Then he said that in the eight years before Obama and Clinton took office, there were no successful Islamic terror attacks in the United States. In addition to faulty math (September 2001 to January 2009 is not quite eight years), he forgot these incidents (from the Global Terrorism Database):

Either Mr. "Noun Verb and 9/11" deliberately forgot 9/11 for political gain or it was a thinly-veiled admission that 9/11 was an inside job. (That wasn't started by me. The conspiracy theorists already went there.)

[jarnon]

Rudy Giuliani suffers from historical amnesia too (though at his age, it's understandable). In a speech on Monday, he thanked Mike Pence for supporting NYC after the World Trade Center attack. Then he said that in the eight years before Obama and Clinton took office, there were no successful Islamic terror attacks in the United States. In addition to faulty math (September 2001 to January 2009 is not quite eight years), he forgot these incidents (from the Global Terrorism Database):

Either Mr. "Noun Verb and 9/11" deliberately forgot 9/11 for political gain or it was a thinly-veiled admission that 9/11 was an inside job. (That wasn't started by me. The conspiracy theorists already went there.)

Giuliani has long claimed that Bill Clinton is to blame for not preventing 9/11. By now, he probably imagines that the attack took place days after Bush took office. (At least he doesn't blame Obama.) Trump doesn't have the same memory loss. He was quick to blame George W. after Jeb said his brother kept us safe.

[Spock]

Selective memory isn't just a Republican problem. Obama has condemned terrorist attacks in Belgium, France, Turkey and even Bangladesh, but he never mentioned the 13-year-old Israeli-American dual citizen who was murdered in her sleep in the West Bank in June.

I'm starting to rant, but this shit bothers me.

Jarnon-you might be interested in a book I just read. "Ally" by Michael Oren. Oren was the US-born Israeli ambassador during the early stretches of the Obama Admin. It got a little long and a little repetitive-but I am glad I read it. Oren is also a historian and I have a couple other of his books on my list-"6-Day War" and "The US in the Middle East."

[jarnon]

Jarnon-you might be interested in a book I just read. "Ally" by Michael Oren. Oren was the US-born Israeli ambassador during the early stretches of the Obama Admin. It got a little long and a little repetitive-but I am glad I read it. Oren is also a historian and I have a couple other of his books on my list-"6-Day War" and "The US in the Middle East."

Thanks for the tip.