This is Appalling to me

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TheCalvinator24 · #1 Post by **TheCalvinator24** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:37 am

http://yaledailynews.com/storymin.html

I don't have the words right now.

PlacentiaSoccerMom · #2 Post by **PlacentiaSoccerMom** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:40 am

TheCalvinator24 wrote:http://yaledailynews.com/storymin.html

I don't have the words right now.

I find the whole thing disgusting.

Bob Juch · #3 Post by **Bob Juch** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:45 am

That is one sick puppy!

peacock2121 · #4 Post by **peacock2121** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:48 am

I couldn't even read the entire article.

I am having stomach sensations and trembling.

This should not be.

NellyLunatic1980 · #5 Post by **NellyLunatic1980** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:51 am

Judging by your reactions, I'm afraid to even click on the link.

starfish1113 · #6 Post by **starfish1113** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:53 am

You and me both, Cal.

I wish I didn't read it.

silverscreenselect · #7 Post by **silverscreenselect** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:06 am

Why Democrats lose elections.....

PlacentiaSoccerMom · #8 Post by **PlacentiaSoccerMom** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:09 am

NellyLunatic1980 wrote:Judging by your reactions, I'm afraid to even click on the link.

Don't click on the link. I wish that I hadn't, I can't get it out of my head.

nitrah55 · #9 Post by **nitrah55** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:15 am

This is one of those situations where being amoral is more disturbing than being immoral.

Rexer25 · #10 Post by **Rexer25** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:30 am

I hope this is a prank story.

themanintheseersuckersuit · #11 Post by **themanintheseersuckersuit** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:32 am

Rexer25 wrote:I hope this is a prank story.

or an "artistic" hoax

silvercamaro · #12 Post by **silvercamaro** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:34 am

It's nothing more than an affront to human decency -- and affronting decency seems to be the goal of more and more so-called institutions of higher education.

#13 Post by **littlebeast13** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:59 am

I'm getting a Server Busy message when I click on it. All of the reactions have me curious....

lb13

peacock2121 · #14 Post by **peacock2121** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:09 pm

littlebeast13 wrote:I'm getting a Server Busy message when I click on it. All of the reactions have me curious....

lb13

dang.

You are always a good benchmark for things that outrage me. You seem to center me in some way - away from outrage, I mean.

#15 Post by **littlebeast13** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:18 pm

peacock2121 wrote:
littlebeast13 wrote:I'm getting a Server Busy message when I click on it. All of the reactions have me curious....

lb13
dang.

You are always a good benchmark for things that outrage me. You seem to center me in some way - away from outrage, I mean.

I was able to see a text-only version of the story.

I doubt I'll be centering anyone on this one.....

Someone should have bought her some Crayolas and a bottle of Elmer's....

lb13

Rexer25 · #16 Post by **Rexer25** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:19 pm

littlebeast13 wrote:
peacock2121 wrote:
littlebeast13 wrote:I'm getting a Server Busy message when I click on it. All of the reactions have me curious....

lb13
dang.

You are always a good benchmark for things that outrage me. You seem to center me in some way - away from outrage, I mean.

I was able to see a text-only version of the story.

I doubt I'll be centering anyone on this one.....

Someone should have bought her some Crayolas and a bottle of Elmer's....

lb13

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earendel · #17 Post by **earendel** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:23 pm

One word - unbelievable.

Tocqueville3 · #18 Post by **Tocqueville3** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:28 pm

Sometimes it is absolutely incredible the totally disgusting things some people will do just to get attention. That's all this dumb broad is trying to do. Get attention. I cannot for the life of me grasp why she would think doing what she did is at all productive. She can call herself an artist all she wants but she isn't an artist. She's just a psycho who is beyond help.

T_Bone0806 · #19 Post by **T_Bone0806** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:58 pm

Tocqueville3 wrote:Sometimes it is absolutely incredible the totally disgusting things some people will do just to get attention. That's all this dumb broad is trying to do. Get attention. I cannot for the life of me grasp why she would think doing what she did is at all productive. She can call herself an artist all she wants but she isn't an artist. She's just a psycho who is beyond help.

I am glad I got the "Text Only" version.

Experiencing this "artwork" in person definitely would've inspired me to create my own masterwork.."Portrait of a Middle-Aged Man as a Projectile Vomiter".

VAdame · #20 Post by **VAdame** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:03 pm

It's a hoax:

http://www.yale.edu/opa/

Hoax or not, I guess Shvarts’ installation is an accomplishment by some negative measure: In a single attention-getting move, she’s managed to make the pro-choice movement, feminism, performance art, and Yale all look bad at the same time.

Dana Stevens, in Slate

TheCalvinator24 · #21 Post by **TheCalvinator24** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:06 pm

Not quite a hoax.

IMO, it's still the product of a sick mind.

kayrharris · #22 Post by **kayrharris** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:14 pm

I hope she gets an F.

kayrharris · #23 Post by **kayrharris** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:16 pm

This was in today's NYT. Who knows whether to believe this girl or not. Lost all credibility if you ask me.

The New York Times
April 18, 2008
Arts, Briefly
Art Revealed as Fiction at Yale
By THE NEW YORK TIMES

A Yale art student who claimed that she had repeatedly inseminated herself and then induced miscarriages as a performance-art project, igniting a firestorm of criticism on the campus and on the Web, told university officials on Thursday that she had lied about the claims and that the story itself was the art project.

The Yale Daily News reported Thursday that the student, Aliza Shvarts, said that she had inseminated herself “as often as possible” over a nine-month period using sperm from donors and later took herbal substances that are known to work as abortifacients. She told the newspaper that she made videos of herself experiencing her miscarriages and planned to show them at an exhibition of student art projects next week, along with her own blood.

But Helaine S. Klasky, a Yale spokeswoman, issued a statement from the university Thursday afternoon, saying: “Ms. Shvarts is engaged in performance art. Her art project includes visual representations, a press release and other narrative materials. She stated to three senior Yale University officials today, including two deans, that she did not impregnate herself and that she did not induce any miscarriages. The entire project is an art piece, a creative fiction designed to draw attention to the ambiguity surrounding form and function of a woman’s body.

“She is an artist and has the right to express herself through performance art,” the statement added: “Had these acts been real, they would have violated basic ethical standards and raised serious mental and physical health concerns.”

ghostjmf · #24 Post by **ghostjmf** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:39 pm

aaa, the whole thing struck me as "lessee who we can disgust". But I didn't necessarily think "hoax". People do a lot of voluntary things to their bodies that I find abhorrent & which could get themselves sick. But they don't ask me, they just go ahead & do it anyway.

And then there is:

Friend of a friend of mine went through artificial insemination twice, back before there were all the medical ways to make the treatment "take" we have today, not that its exactly a sea cruise today.

Then the couple didn't bother to delead their new old house, as getting the outside painted in some "supposed to be Victorian" color scheme was apparently way more important to them. Nor did they even just paint over the old paint on the inside, which would be illegal but does keep those lead levels down. So both very difficultly & expensively begotten (insurance didn't pay for it back then either) kids tested high for lead & had to be given deleading treatments. Sure hope they turned out OK; I've lost touch.

Of course, a lot of people do far worse things to their kids intentionally, way beyond the "malign neglect of the self-centered" I've cited above.

At least the "hoaxer or not" in the story you're all talking about doesn't have any kids to harm. Yet.

Bixby17 · #25 Post by **Bixby17** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:39 pm

Hoax or not, I guess Shvarts’ installation is an accomplishment by some negative measure: In a single attention-getting move, she’s managed to make the pro-choice movement, feminism, performance art, and Yale all look bad at the same time.

Dana Stevens, in Slate

I dunno. Don't think it says anything about any of those things.

It just says she's a wacko.

The most impressive thing about her "art" is that she can get pro-life and pro-choice people agreeing on the fact that she is a wacko. Hard to get much common ground between those folks.

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