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Nope.


Idiocy.

Crickets!

Perhaps SSS and the other gender deniers did not see that the "nope" was a link to the story of the Alaskan track meet where a boy/man ran "as a girl" and won handily denying legitimate entrants from a chance to advance to the state.

http://usatodayhss.com/2016/transgender ... around-her

USA Today proudly refers to it as "making history". Yep, so did Hirohito.


In another thread title And so it begins..... where I reported that men can now compete as women in the Olympics SSS sarcastically wrote

I'm sure there are tons of mediocre male athletes just itching to go through years of public humiliation, psychological torment, and intensive hormone therapy just so they can compete in the Olympics, where, if they have any degree of success, they'll be subject to even more scorn and scrutiny.

The answer is "yes".

There IS a war on women, but it is the LGBT crowd waging it. And it is a war on men. It is a war on gender. And it is insane.

I'm certain that when this girl and her parents were considering going through this procedure, the one thought that drove her was that putting up with the years of ridicule and humiliation, not to mention psychological counseling, hormone treatment, and, possibly severe reconstructive surgery would be worth it if she could just finish third in a high school track meet in Alaska.

I am glad that you posted an article that includes her picture. I'm sure that the women of North Carolina and other states that want to pass this ridiculous legislation will feel much more comfortable knowing that when they go to the bathroom in a public place, they won't be forced to to associate with someone who looks like this, and obviously has evil designs on them and their daughters:



I'm sure they'll feel much better and safer if they're left alone with someone who looks like this instead:

silverscreenselect wrote:I'm certain that when this girl and her parents were considering going through this procedure, the one thought that drove her was that putting up with the years of ridicule and humiliation, not to mention psychological counseling, hormone treatment, and, possibly severe reconstructive surgery would be worth it if she could just finish third in a high school track meet in Alaska.

I'll agree with the psychological counseling. The boy needs it. Too bad he's getting the wrong kind.

From BiT's article:

Yet, Minnery [president of Alaska Family Action, the group leading the protests] waited an entire year — after the subject of which bathroom a transgender person can use became a national debate and before a teenager participated in the final event of her high school athletic career — to stir up controversy outside a high school track meet. On May 24, just days before the state track meet, Minnery joined 21 other leaders of conservative groups — most of which use the term “family” in their titles — in sending a letter to Senators Mitch McConnell and Harry Reid as well as Representatives Paul Ryan, Kevin McCarthy and Nancy Pelosi.

The people making this an issue are not the LBGT community in general or transgendered people in particular. They just want to go about their lives the same as anyone else. Instead, it's the religious right who all of a sudden made it an issue, I guess because they needed something else to humiliate others about, now that they can't use banning gay marriage to do so. Transgendered people have been using public restrooms for years without it being an issue and without reports of men in dresses assaulting women or young girls. Instead, I've seen my share of Peeping Toms (not Thomasinas) in men's rooms and been propositioned a time or two (not to mention the graffiti on the bathroom stalls filled with "enticing" offers, art work, and phone numbers).This has only become an issue because right wingers want to make it so.

silverscreenselect wrote:This has only become an issue because right wingers want to make it so.

I guess you can make that argument if you ignore the proposed and enacted "HERO"like ordinances and laws put forth in the past few years by the LBGT forces, or the president's edict to school districts, or the SC ruling on gay marriage, or anything else that has happened in the past decade. Yes, you can ignore the fact the world has turned over 3,600 times in the past decade and say nothing has changed except the activism of the right wing.

Or, like you, make comments similar to "Rape is only an issue because women want to make it so."

BackInTex wrote: the president's edict to school districts, or the SC ruling on gay marriage,

That's like saying that Brown v. Board of Education made civil rights an issue. All the Jim Crow laws in this country preceeded that decision, just like all the laws and court decisions banning gay marriage preceded the Supreme Court decision. And the president didn't feel the need to issue any sort of edict until after North Carolina chose to make public bathrooms an issue.

BiT, do you really think that your wife and daughters have never been in a public restroom in their entire lives with someone who was born a man?

And, as someone who cares about the safety and mental welfare of his family, which of the two individuals in my earlier post would you rather have your wife and daughters be alone with in a public restroom?

(For the record, I don't think that women would be in physical danger from either of them. Transgendered people don't want to call attention to themselves. It's the way women would react to their presence that's far more disconcerting)

silverscreenselect wrote: BiT, do you really think that your wife and daughters have never been in a public restroom in their entire lives with someone who was born a man?

Irrelevant. I may have sat next to a murderer on an airplane. What does that matter? I lived, he did not try to kill me, so it's O.K. he is free?

silverscreenselect wrote: And, as someone who cares about the safety and mental welfare of his family, which of the two individuals in my earlier post would you rather have your wife and daughters be alone with in a public restroom?

(For the record, I don't think that women would be in physical danger from either of them. Transgendered people don't want to call attention to themselves. It's the way women would react to their presence that's far more disconcerting)

Again, irrelevant. This isn't about (or only about) safety.

My original post has nothing to do with the bathroom that boy uses. I never inferred it was unsafe for him to be on the track running the same race as the girls. Not even close.

Yet you can't get off your talking points lest you paint yourself in a moral corner. Biological males are males, nothing else. If they think or feel they are something else they have a mental disorder not a physical one. The same goes for females.

Next up from you are the .0001% where they are biologically both.

I fail to see the earth shattering consequences of this girl finishing third in an Alaska track meet. I agree that chemically enhancing one's athletic performance is a serious issue, but it's one that almost exclusively involves "normal" men and women. We just had a champion women's tennis player get a two year ban for doing just that. But this isn't about "unfair" competition in sports; it's about trying to make this girl and others like her feel like marginalized freaks.

At one time, transgendered people had no choice other than to try to live with it the best they could, just as many other people with a wide variety of medical and physical conditions had no choice but to live with them as best they could. Fortunately, we now have treatment that can make these people better adjusted. I don't know why you feel that this one particular condition merits such harsh a reaction on the part of you and other right wingers.

And the fact that we're having this argument in the first place is because right wingers manufactured a public safety issue where there was none to disguise what they're really trying to do: belittle and denigrate transgendered people.

silverscreenselect wrote:I fail to see the earth shattering consequences of this girl finishing third in an Alaska track meet. I agree that chemically enhancing one's athletic performance is a serious issue, but it's one that almost exclusively involves "normal" men and women. We just had a champion women's tennis player get a two year ban for doing just that. But this isn't about "unfair" competition in sports; it's about trying to make this girl and others like her feel like marginalized freaks.

At one time, transgendered people had no choice other than to try to live with it the best they could, just as many other people with a wide variety of medical and physical conditions had no choice but to live with them as best they could. Fortunately, we now have treatment that can make these people better adjusted. I don't know why you feel that this one particular condition merits such harsh a reaction on the part of you and other right wingers.

And the fact that we're having this argument in the first place is because right wingers manufactured a public safety issue where there was none to disguise what they're really trying to do: belittle and denigrate transgendered people.

I wonder how many of those people would have no problem standing next to Catelyn Jenner at a urinal?