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Fire Up the Toaster (TV Version)

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 9:01 am
by silverscreenselect
There have been a wave of cancellations in the last couple of days, along with others announced earlier. Some of these shows may resurface on a different platform like Netflix or Hulu. Here is the latest:

Castle (ABC)
Nashville (ABC)
The Muppets (ABC)
Galavant (ABC)
Marvel's Agent Carter (ABC)
CSI: Cyber (CBS)
Grandfathered (Fox)
Cooper Barrett (Fox)
The Grinder (Fox)
Bordertown (Fox)
Person of Interest (CBS)
The Family (ABC)
Second Chance (Fox)

Changing networks:

Supergirl (CBS to CW)

Renewed (Just the more recent and less obvious ones):

Dr. Ken (ABC)
American Crime (ABC, new story for next season)
Lucifer (Fox)
The Catch (ABC)
Rosewood (Fox)

Re: Fire Up the Toaster (TV Version)

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 9:25 am
by jarnon
I've watched Castle since it began (big fan of Nathan Fillion), but I didn't like the idea of season 9 without Beckett.

On Marvel's Agents of SHIELD this week, they showed a newspaper headline that said Agent Peggy Carter has died at age 95. That wasn't a consequence of the cancellation of Marvel's Agent Carter, which took place 70 years earlier, but it was fitting.

I'll keep watching Supergirl, and I hope CW can maintain the show's quality.

Re: Fire Up the Toaster (TV Version)

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 9:42 am
by T_Bone0806
jarnon wrote: On Marvel's Agents of SHIELD this week, they showed a newspaper headline that said Agent Peggy Carter has died at age 95. That wasn't a consequence of the cancellation of Marvel's Agent Carter, which took place 70 years earlier, but it was fitting.
This is really a no big deal spoiler, but I'll hide it anyway for those who haven't seen, but want to see, the latest Marvel movie..

Spoiler
Steve Rogers/Captain America attends her funeral in the new Cap movie

Re: Fire Up the Toaster (TV Version)

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 10:05 am
by TheCalvinator24
I hope Person of Interest managed to wrap things up.

Re: Fire Up the Toaster (TV Version)

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 10:40 am
by Ritterskoop
Person of Interest is in its planned final season now.

Re: Fire Up the Toaster (TV Version)

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 11:04 am
by ghostjmf
Well, Good Wife did its planned farewell (on a bummer, in my opinion), PoI being cancelled is by now old news, I'm bummed about Cyber but recent cast dropout, as well as half-baked plot resolutions, was prolly a warning, Bones isn't on list yet but stars-who-produce sueing re distribution doesn't bode well, & most of the new stuff looks like comedies even when billed as drama.

Stay tuned. Or not.

Re: Fire Up the Toaster (TV Version)

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 11:51 am
by Pastor Fireball
ghostjmf wrote:Bones isn't on list yet... most of the new stuff looks like comedies even when billed as drama.
Same thing happened to Fame at its fifth season. The producers were seemingly turning every episode into a sitcom. The show made it to TV Heaven after the sixth season.

Re: Fire Up the Toaster (TV Version)

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 12:20 pm
by ghostjmf
I didn't mean that Bones was going comedic (though its structure has comedic moments built in; not so much this season, with one main character now a verbally abusive depressed paraplegic); was talking about the new shows profiled in other thread as dramas.

Didn't mean to mislead.

From what I've read in producers' intention with the paralyzed character they planned development they'll never get to in current short batch of eps. Unless they jury-rig something. Or network/distributer caves on suit, & those folks never do.

Re: Fire Up the Toaster (TV Version)

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 1:15 pm
by Bob78164
That's too bad about Marvel's Agent Carter. I watched Galavant but I'm not sorry to see it go. I don't think I've ever watched the rest.

I'm very glad Supergirl still has a home. I'm really enjoying Calista Flockhart's role. In the last episode, her character turned down (via a phone call) a date with Harrison Ford because she doesn't date older men, "and anyway, isn't he married?" --Bob

Re: Fire Up the Toaster (TV Version)

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 2:28 pm
by Bob Juch
I'm sorry that "Nashville" will not be back. A friend has been writing songs for them.

Re: Fire Up the Toaster (TV Version)

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 3:23 pm
by silverscreenselect
Also renewed: Sleepy Hollow (Fox) and Last Man Standing (ABC)

Re: Fire Up the Toaster (TV Version)

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 6:06 pm
by SpacemanSpiff
Bob78164 wrote:That's too bad about Marvel's Agent Carter. I watched Galavant but I'm not sorry to see it go. I don't think I've ever watched the rest.

I'm very glad Supergirl still has a home. I'm really enjoying Calista Flockhart's role. In the last episode, her character turned down (via a phone call) a date with Harrison Ford because she doesn't date older men, "and anyway, isn't he married?" --Bob
While I am glsd that it is still on, I am less than thrilled about it going to the CW. Our local cable system has the CBS shows in an "on demand" system, but not the CW ones.

Re: Fire Up the Toaster (TV Version)

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 6:32 pm
by Ritterskoop
Bones has already been renewed for next year's 12th and final season, at 12 episodes.

They knew that going into this spring's story arcs, is why they felt they could do what they've done with a major character. I still expect a dramatic turn in a late episode next season, given the inventiveness of the people involved.

Re: Fire Up the Toaster (TV Version)

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 9:50 pm
by silverscreenselect
Also cancelled by NBC, first year spring replacements Heartbeat and Game of Silence.

Re: Fire Up the Toaster (TV Version)

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 9:42 am
by ghostjmf
Oh shoot. I am enjoying Heartbeat. For What it Is.

And I'd read that a short season of Bones was scheduled for next year, but that was before the lawsuit launched. Can still hope.

Re: Fire Up the Toaster (TV Version)

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 10:06 am
by silverscreenselect
Also cancelled by NBC: Crowded, Undateable and Telenovela.

Re: Fire Up the Toaster (TV Version)

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 11:19 am
by ghostjmf
Read article that says season 12's "12 eps to end show" decision was made as lawsuit rolls on.

Re: Fire Up the Toaster (TV Version)

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 11:37 am
by Bob Juch
ghostjmf wrote:Oh shoot. I am enjoying Heartbeat. For What it Is.

And I'd read that a short season of Bones was scheduled for next year, but that was before the lawsuit launched. Can still hope.
What lawsuit?

Re: Fire Up the Toaster (TV Version)

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 11:38 am
by Bob Juch
silverscreenselect wrote:Also cancelled by NBC, first year spring replacements Heartbeat and Game of Silence.
Darn it!

Re: Fire Up the Toaster (TV Version)

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 11:38 am
by Bob Juch
silverscreenselect wrote:Also cancelled by NBC: Crowded, Undateable and Telenovela.
I haven't see even part of these.

Re: Fire Up the Toaster (TV Version)

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 1:11 pm
by SpacemanSpiff
Bob Juch wrote:
ghostjmf wrote:Oh shoot. I am enjoying Heartbeat. For What it Is.

And I'd read that a short season of Bones was scheduled for next year, but that was before the lawsuit launched. Can still hope.
What lawsuit?
Over Hollywood accounting.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/b ... hit-885459

Re: Fire Up the Toaster (TV Version)

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 10:51 pm
by Bob78164
SpacemanSpiff wrote:
Bob Juch wrote:
ghostjmf wrote:Oh shoot. I am enjoying Heartbeat. For What it Is.

And I'd read that a short season of Bones was scheduled for next year, but that was before the lawsuit launched. Can still hope.
What lawsuit?
Over Hollywood accounting.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/b ... hit-885459
Seems like an oxymoron. --Bob

Re: Fire Up the Toaster (TV Version)

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 7:18 am
by BackInTex
Bob78164 wrote:
SpacemanSpiff wrote: Over Hollywood accounting.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/b ... hit-885459
Seems like an oxymoron. --Bob
Not much detail provided of the costs.

82% of the cost is simply labeled "Negative Costs" (the term irks me as an accountant as "negative" costs are actually revenue).

The article says the Negative Costs are comprised of production costs and an "administrative fee". Since this is such a large portion of the total costs, and the crux of the disagreement is likely centered around that "administrative fee", it should have been reported as a separate amount. Otherwise none of those numbers give the reader any idea of the validity of the suit.

Re: Fire Up the Toaster (TV Version)

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 10:38 am
by Ritterskoop
The 12th and final season of Bones will proceed regardless of the lawsuit.

Re: Fire Up the Toaster (TV Version)

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 12:44 pm
by Bob Juch
BackInTex wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:
SpacemanSpiff wrote: Over Hollywood accounting.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/b ... hit-885459
Seems like an oxymoron. --Bob
Not much detail provided of the costs.

82% of the cost is simply labeled "Negative Costs" (the term irks me as an accountant as "negative" costs are actually revenue).

The article says the Negative Costs are comprised of production costs and an "administrative fee". Since this is such a large portion of the total costs, and the crux of the disagreement is likely centered around that "administrative fee", it should have been reported as a separate amount. Otherwise none of those numbers give the reader any idea of the validity of the suit.
I believe the "negative costs" don't refer to money but to the costs of producing a "negative" (since almost everyone uses digital now the need to rename that). Then there are costs to duplicate the "negative".

This whole thing sounds like the way big corporations show a loss and thus avoid paying taxes year after year.