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human Go champion loses 2nd game

#1 Post by earendel » Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:59 am

Lee Sedol, believed to be the best human Go player in the world, has lost two consecutive games to Google's DeepMind AI AlphaGo. It has long been believed that Go was too complex to be mastered by AI at the present.
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Re: human Go champion loses 2nd game

#2 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:49 am

I heard a story on the radio, that humans with a computer assistant can still beat a standalone computer at speed chess.

http://www.ttbook.org/book/our-minds-co ... ter-really
Suitguy is not bitter.

feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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Re: human Go champion loses 2nd game

#3 Post by Bob78164 » Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:26 am

themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:I heard a story on the radio, that humans with a computer assistant can still beat a standalone computer at speed chess.

http://www.ttbook.org/book/our-minds-co ... ter-really
Isn't that another way of saying that humans can't beat a standalone computer at speed chess? --Bob
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Re: human Go champion loses 2nd game

#4 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:21 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:I heard a story on the radio, that humans with a computer assistant can still beat a standalone computer at speed chess.

http://www.ttbook.org/book/our-minds-co ... ter-really
Isn't that another way of saying that humans can't beat a standalone computer at speed chess? --Bob

no
Suitguy is not bitter.

feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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