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Ammon Bundy arrested, 2 shot. 3 or 8 in custody

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:09 pm
by Bob Juch
Breaking news so things are fuzzy.

Re: Ammon Bundy arrested, 2 shot. 3 or 8 in custody

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:15 pm
by Bob Juch
Bob Juch wrote:Breaking news so things are fuzzy.
One dead, 3 is custody says the latest update.

Re: Ammon Bundy arrested, 2 shot. 3 or 8 in custody

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:04 am
by Pastor Fireball
So I guess this means Americans can stop sending them sex toys...

Re: Ammon Bundy arrested, 2 shot. 3 or 8 in custody

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:02 pm
by SpacemanSpiff
Pastor Fireball wrote:So I guess this means Americans can stop sending them sex toys...
I thought they were sending those to them because the senders weren't sure what they actually were and wanted their expert analysis.

After all, it takes one to know one.

Re: Ammon Bundy arrested, 2 shot. 3 or 8 in custody

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:09 pm
by Bob Juch
They have the last four surrounded.

Re: Ammon Bundy arrested, 2 shot. 3 or 8 in custody

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:26 am
by SpacemanSpiff
I know folks can be overzealous (and that goes for all stripes within the political spectrum), and that seems to get magnified when one only seems to hear like-minded folks.

That being said, am I the only one who think these folks totally overplayed their hand from the git-go? Or did they just believe, like many folks do, that "we have a righteous cause, so everyone else is going to support us"?

First, the group takes over an isolated Federal area, trying to force the hand of the government over the imprisoning of two like-minded folks nearby the wildlife site, and they ask for others like them to show up.

Except (a) the folks go to prison, and tell the younger Bundy and company to go home, and (b) not a whole lot of other folks show up.

Then they say they'll stay as long as the locals support them. Except the locals, who are sympathetic to their cause, doesn't want them there. (BTW -- I somehow thought of this as a variation of NIMBYism. I'm sure they'd be publicly supporting them if they were still in Nevada, but not when they're running around their quiet town. Let's put it this way -- when a community that is used to rifles in trucks and open carry weapons get worried about these folks, that's not a good sign.)

And then they say they'll leave, but only if the charges are dropped. That doesn't happen.

And it goes on from there. Every step of the way, they've tried to dictate the terms. And folks say no.

I sincerely hope this ends without additional bloodshed.

Re: Ammon Bundy arrested, 2 shot. 3 or 8 in custody

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:08 pm
by Bob Juch
The last four have now surrendered.

Re: Ammon Bundy arrested, 2 shot. 3 or 8 in custody

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 2:59 pm
by SpacemanSpiff
Bob Juch wrote:The last four have now surrendered.
Good. It would have been very easy to have made these folks into martyrs and folk heroes if the Feds had gone in with guns blazing early on (think of the Waco experience). They may still be heroes to some, but getting them off the property and into jail doesn't have the same effect in the court of public opinion.

Now let the legal system take it from here.