The North Pole is currently warmer than CA, TX, and OK

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The North Pole is currently warmer than CA, TX, and OK

#1 Post by Bob Juch » Wed Dec 30, 2015 10:11 am

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Re: The North Pole is currently warmer than CA, TX, and OK

#2 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Thu Dec 31, 2015 6:44 am

* Postscript, 11:40 p.m. | Early estimates of 40-degree Fahrenheit temperatures around the North Pole didn’t hold up as data from buoys set in the sea ice, reported by Capital Weather Gang, showed a reading of 33 degrees: “A buoy (WMO ID Buoy 6400476) at a latitude of 87.45 degrees North hit a high temperature of 0.7 degrees C
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Re: The North Pole is currently warmer than CA, TX, and OK

#3 Post by Bob Juch » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:02 pm

themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:* Postscript, 11:40 p.m. | Early estimates of 40-degree Fahrenheit temperatures around the North Pole didn’t hold up as data from buoys set in the sea ice, reported by Capital Weather Gang, showed a reading of 33 degrees: “A buoy (WMO ID Buoy 6400476) at a latitude of 87.45 degrees North hit a high temperature of 0.7 degrees C
Gee, that means the water around ice is almost freezing?! Who would have thought?
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Re: The North Pole is currently warmer than CA, TX, and OK

#4 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:30 pm

Admiral Peary started his trek to the North Pole in February. Perhaps you can explain why.
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#5 Post by Beebs52 » Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:21 pm

Well, then

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Re: The North Pole is currently warmer than CA, TX, and OK

#6 Post by jarnon » Fri Jan 01, 2016 6:33 pm

Like Taylor, I'm not an earth scientist, but I know a lot about the subject.

Ocean ice is affected by short-term factors like El Niño. But it's clear in the graph that Taylor links to his story that the long-term trend is down. Then on page 2, Taylor agrees that the earth's average temperature has been increasing, but he thinks that's a natural phenomenon and a good thing. The overwhelming majority of climate scientists think human activity has contributed to the increase, and it's dangerous.
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