RIP Stephane Charbonnier, Jean Cabut, Bernard Verlhac, and

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

Georges Wolinski

"I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees"
yes they really said that.

[BackInTex]

Religion of peace my ass.

I hope every paper in Europe and the US will publish some satirical cartoon about this event showing Muhammad as a spoiled brat child akin to Anthony in the Twilight Zone episode "It's a Good Life".

But in reality, most if not all will be like the main characters. "Yes it is good Muhammad, very good."

[Estonut]

"I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees"
yes they really said that.

4:02

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

The actual translated quote "I am not afraid of retaliation. I have no kids, no wife, no car, no credit. It perhaps sounds a bit pompous, but I prefer to die standing than living on my knees". Charb

[Bob78164]

Religion of peace my ass.

So shall we start using the KKK as a yardstick by which to measure the ideals of Christianity? --Bob

[BackInTex]

Religion of peace my ass.

So shall we start using the KKK as a yardstick by which to measure the ideals of Christianity? --Bob

Sure, go ahead Bob. To you that makes sense.

[Bob78164]

Religion of peace my ass.

So shall we start using the KKK as a yardstick by which to measure the ideals of Christianity? --Bob

Sure, go ahead Bob. To you that makes sense.

As much sense as using a handful of fanatics to tar an entire faith. --Bob

[Bob Juch]

[BackInTex]

Sure, go ahead Bob. To you that makes sense.

As much sense as using a handful of fanatics to tar an entire faith. --Bob

The Taliban
Al Qaeda
Muslim Brotherhood
Boko Haram
Al-Badr
Abu Sayyaf
Hamas
Hezbollah
ISIS


Just a handful, yep.

[Bob78164]

Sure, go ahead Bob. To you that makes sense.

As much sense as using a handful of fanatics to tar an entire faith. --Bob

The Taliban
Al Qaeda
Muslim Brotherhood
Boko Haram
Al-Badr
Abu Sayyaf
Hamas
Hezbollah
ISIS


Just a handful, yep.

I seem to recall that the KKK was rather prominent in the American South just a few decades ago. In fact, I think there's a current movie out about an incident during that period of history.

And then we have the radical who walked into a church and gunned down a physician because he was willing to perform abortions. And of course, all of the survivalist cults that are out there, some of whom have engaged in armed resistance to civil authority. Hell, I think there are still parts of southern Utah and northern Arizona where decidedly out-of-mainstream Mormons have (and abuse) a considerable amount of civil authority.

Would you like Christianity's principles assessed by their beliefs and actions? --Bob

[Bob Juch]

Sure, go ahead Bob. To you that makes sense.

As much sense as using a handful of fanatics to tar an entire faith. --Bob

The Taliban
Al Qaeda
Muslim Brotherhood
Boko Haram
Al-Badr
Abu Sayyaf
Hamas
Hezbollah
ISIS


Just a handful, yep.

211 Crew
All-American Protectorate, Inc.
American Freedom Party
American Front
American Nazi Party
Aryan Brotherhood
Aryan Brotherhood of Texas
Aryan Circle
Aryan Republican Army
Assembly of Christian Soldiers
Black Legion (political movement)
Church of Jesus Christ–Christian
Citizens' Councils
Council of Conservative Citizens
Counter-Revolutionary Organization on Salvation and Service
Creativity (religion)
European Kindred
European-American Unity and Rights Organization
Free Society of Teutonia
Friends of New Germany
German American Bund
Hammerskins
Imperial Klans of America
Institute for Historical Review
Kingdom Identity Ministries
Knights of the White Camelia
Ku Klux Klan
Liberty Lobby
National Alliance (United States)
National Association for the Advancement of White People
National Renaissance Party (United States)
National Socialist League (United States)
National Socialist Movement (United States)
National Socialist Party of America
National States' Rights Party
National Vanguard (American organization)
National Youth Alliance
Nationalist Movement
Nazi Lowriders
New Century Foundation
New Order (Neo-Nazi group)
The Order (group)
Phineas Priesthood
Posse Comitatus (organization)
Public Enemy No. 1 (street gang)
Red Shirts (Southern United States)
Redneck Shop
Silver Legion of America
Supreme Order of Caucasians
United Klans of America
White Aryan Resistance
White Citizens Parties
White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan
White League
White Order of Thule
White Patriot Party
White power skinhead
White Revolution (hate group)
Women of the Ku Klux Klan
Workingmen's Party of California

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

Let's not forget that the KKK was the enforcement arm of the Democratic Party

Nor let us forget that ridicule did much to destroy the KKK's power

http://mentalfloss.com/article/23157/ho ... -klux-klan

[Bob Juch]

Let's not forget that the KKK was the enforcement arm of the Democratic Party

Until Democrats became Republicans and vice versa.

[BackInTex]

I seem to recall that the KKK was rather prominent in the American South just a few decades ago. In fact, I think there's a current movie out about an incident during that period of history.

You really want to compare the KKK to ISIS or the Taliban? And those groups support (both public and financial) by the representative religious communities?

And then we have the radical who walked into a church and gunned down a physician because he was willing to perform abortions.

Partial birth abortions. Let's be clear about that. That is what Tiller did and why Scott Roeder killed him. To Roeder and many others, partially delivering a baby and sucking the brain out of the skull is murder. 1 nut, 1 death vs. Major Nidal Hasan who shot up an entire building killing 13 and wounding over 30 others.

And of course, all of the survivalist cults that are out there, some of whom have engaged in armed resistance to civil authority.

Not Christian. Some may claim to be but most are like you. Christians have no need for survivalist type communities.

Hell, I think there are still parts of southern Utah and northern Arizona where decidedly out-of-mainstream Mormons have (and abuse) a considerable amount of civil authority.

Mormans are not Christians. You're showing your ignorance. Scientologists are not either, in case you go there.

Would you like Christianity's principles assessed by their beliefs and actions? --Bob

Yes, but you don't seem to understand who 'their' is.

[Bob78164]

I seem to recall that the KKK was rather prominent in the American South just a few decades ago. In fact, I think there's a current movie out about an incident during that period of history.

You really want to compare the KKK to ISIS or the Taliban? And those groups support (both public and financial) by the representative religious communities?

And then we have the radical who walked into a church and gunned down a physician because he was willing to perform abortions.

Partial birth abortions. Let's be clear about that. That is what Tiller did and why Scott Roeder killed him. To Roeder and many others, partially delivering a baby and sucking the brain out of the skull is murder. 1 nut, 1 death vs. Major Nidal Hasan who shot up an entire building killing 13 and wounding over 30 others.

And of course, all of the survivalist cults that are out there, some of whom have engaged in armed resistance to civil authority.

Not Christian. Some may claim to be but most are like you. Christians have no need for survivalist type communities.

Hell, I think there are still parts of southern Utah and northern Arizona where decidedly out-of-mainstream Mormons have (and abuse) a considerable amount of civil authority.

Mormans are not Christians. You're showing your ignorance. Scientologists are not either, in case you go there.

Would you like Christianity's principles assessed by their beliefs and actions? --Bob

Yes, but you don't seem to understand who 'their' is.

Roeder unilaterally executed someone who performed an act he considered an affront to his view of God. That's no different (except in scope) from what just happened in Paris.

Tim McVeigh professed to be a Christian, didn't he?

I'm pretty sure these groups would disagree with you about their Christianity, but I'll use a more trenchant example.

Would you like me to assess Christianity by using Al Sharpton's views?

Large groups don't get to control who claims affiliation with them. But judging large groups (as you are doing) by their most extreme elements does nothing more than perpetuate unjustified prejudice. I would venture to guess that most Moslems (like most other people) are horrified by what happened in Paris. Your prejudice does them a disservice. --Bob

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

Let's not forget that the KKK was the enforcement arm of the Democratic Party

Until Democrats became Republicans and vice versa.

Keep believing your fantasies

[elwoodblues]

Let's not forget that the KKK was the enforcement arm of the Democratic Party

Until Democrats became Republicans and vice versa.

Keep believing your fantasies

Most people vote according to where the parties stand today and not where they stood a hundred or more years ago.

[BackInTex]

Most people vote according to where the parties stand today and not where they stood a hundred or more years ago.

And we Republicans are still against slavery; to private citizens or the government.

[Bob Juch]

Most people vote according to where the parties stand today and not where they stood a hundred or more years ago.

And we Republicans are still against slavery; to private citizens or the government.

But obviously not to corporations.

[BackInTex]

Roeder unilaterally executed someone who performed an act he considered an affront to his view of God. That's no different (except in scope) from what just happened in Paris.

The situations are vastly different. Roeder killed Tiller not because Tiller was insulting God, but was killing someone else (in his mind). Tiller was not killed because Roeder was offended by words or drawings. That is a huge difference.

Tim McVeigh professed to be a Christian, didn't he?

McVeigh's religious views played no part in his act. It was a purely secular act against what he felt was an oppressive government.

Would you like me to assess Christianity by using Al Sharpton's views?

You're going to have to help me out here...how many innocent people has Sharpton killed? I lost count at zero.

Large groups don't get to control who claims affiliation with them. But judging large groups (as you are doing) by their most extreme elements does nothing more than perpetuate unjustified prejudice. I would venture to guess that most Moslems (like most other people) are horrified by what happened in Paris. Your prejudice does them a disservice. --Bob

You are right, they don't. But the underlying tenets of whatever creates the bond (real or fantasy) between the groups and those professing they are part of the group are based somewhat in the beliefs of the groups.

Christian groups trying to convert people minister to their needs as a way of reaching them. Muslim groups cut off the heads of those who refuse.

Your example of 'Christian' survivalists tend to stay to themselves on property they own and are only a problem when the government comes to them. Muslim survivalist groups tend to kill everyone in a mass execution when taking over areas that aren't theirs.

Al Sharpton calls for protests and economic sanctions and boycotts (and payoffs). Iman's issue fatwas.

Radical Christians don't want gays to get married and vote against allowing it. Radical Muslims, even non-radical ones in Muslim controlled countries, execute them.

Even the most vile of groups proclaiming action in the name of Christianity (Westboro) refrain from murdering people.

[BackInTex]

Most people vote according to where the parties stand today and not where they stood a hundred or more years ago.

And we Republicans are still against slavery; to private citizens or the government.

But obviously not to corporations.

Not too obvious. Please explain.

[flockofseagulls104]

BiT. It's not worth it arguing with the bobs and bjs. They've been institutionalized. They will never understand or acknowledge that we know the difference between Islam and radical islam. They and their ilk equate all conservatives and Christians with that vile list of groups bj got probably from the southern poverty site. I'm surprised the tea party wasn't included on the list. As usual with them your expression of outrage has been changed to a political diatribe. They just hate us more than they do the islamic terrorists.

[BackInTex]

Islam is the Most Violent Religion in the World, But Let’s Keep Calling it ‘Peaceful’ Anyway

I didn’t say that all Muslims are violent, or even that most Muslims are violent. I didn’t even say that Islam is the most destructive religion in the world — that title belongs to progressivism, which murders babies, destroys families, and damns souls.

Yet it is the most violent, and we all know it.

Hopefully we soon come in contact with a dictionary, or any book actually, because if we do we’ll see that a “fundamentalist” is simply someone who follows the fundamentals of a religion. Saying that “Islam isn’t the problem; fundamentalist Islam is the problem” is the same as saying “Islam isn’t the problem; the basic, fundamental nature of it is the problem,” which is the same as saying “Islam isn’t the problem; Islam is the problem.”

And although it might make us feel better to assume that no culture and no religion carries its own unique flaws and pitfalls, the fact remains that Christians and Jews are not often found brutalizing innocent civilians in the name of their religion. And if such an anomaly were to occur, it would be quite easy to tell that the murderous Christian is not a fair representative of his Creed. After all, his Savior spoke rather extensively about the need for peace and mercy. His Savior also wasn’t a militant figure in His own right, killing infidels and taking child brides along the way.

Rather, our Savior told us to turn the other cheek, and that’s what Christians have consistently done. They were pursued, captured, beaten, killed, and made into lion’s food for 300 years before they finally emerged as a dominant religion. If Christianity is inherently violent, it would have been born in violence and spread through violence, but it wasn’t. Unlike Islam.

Bull crap, you cowards. There is disagreement about the “true” nature of every religion. Put 100 Christians of different denominations in a room and they’ll argue over virtually every aspect of their faith. What they won’t do, however, is debate whether they’re supposed to be out killing cartoonists, shooting up schools, murdering soldiers at the Canadian parliament, or taking hostages at a cafe in Sydney. Only one religion has to even entertain that discussion. And that, to me, clearly indicates some very serious and inherent flaws.

[Bob78164]

Islam is the Most Violent Religion in the World, But Let’s Keep Calling it ‘Peaceful’ Anyway

Rather, our Savior told us to turn the other cheek, and that’s what Christians have consistently done. They were pursued, captured, beaten, killed, and made into lion’s food for 300 years before they finally emerged as a dominant religion. If Christianity is inherently violent, it would have been born in violence and spread through violence, but it wasn’t. Unlike Islam.

You have heard of the Crusades? The Inquisition? The conquest of the New World?

What was the English Revolution other than a holy war?

Believing that Islam is uniquely violent among world religions simply betrays utter ignorance of history.

Flock, you may well understand the difference between Islam and radical Islam. I'm pretty sure that BiT doesn't. --Bob

[BackInTex]

Islam is the Most Violent Religion in the World, But Let’s Keep Calling it ‘Peaceful’ Anyway

Rather, our Savior told us to turn the other cheek, and that’s what Christians have consistently done. They were pursued, captured, beaten, killed, and made into lion’s food for 300 years before they finally emerged as a dominant religion. If Christianity is inherently violent, it would have been born in violence and spread through violence, but it wasn’t. Unlike Islam.

You have heard of the Crusades? The Inquisition? The conquest of the New World?

What was the English Revolution other than a holy war?

Believing that Islam is uniquely violent among world religions simply betrays utter ignorance of history.

Flock, you may well understand the difference between Islam and radical Islam. I'm pretty sure that BiT doesn't. --Bob

You didn't read the article, did you? Do you know the history of Christianity? How it started, how it grew? Do you know the history of Islam? How it started and how it grew?