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She wasn't able to fix a problem that's existed for many years before Obama.

She was the one brought in to fix the agency's problems. I'm sorry she failed.

I used to think movies like Olympus Has Fallen, about an attack on the President, were very farfetched. Not any more.

Bob Juch wrote:She wasn't able to fix a problem that's existed for many years before Obama.

What problem was that?

I posted this in another topic, but it fits here too:

jarnon wrote:Where's James West when we need him?

Here's who we need in charge of the Secret Service:

Or maybe this guy:

BackInTex wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:She wasn't able to fix a problem that's existed for many years before Obama.

What problem was that?

Nothing. It's the latest talking point given to the useful idiots. If you ask him to exapnd on it (please don't), he will be sure to have some dubious facts to support it. It's election season and we know all the usual suspects will be demonized and all the fingers will be pointed. I suppose the Secret Service scandal is Bush's fault.

One of my facebook friends has distributed something saying Fox news says Obama has 'perfected' Ebola in Africa and now is bringing it to 'Murica'. He brought it to Dallas to take care of the republican bastion there. Yeah, I'm sure that's their lead story. But it's useful to distribute crap like that because the ignorant masses will eat it up and be outraged. BJ is part of that distribution network.

Just wanted to share that. Now I got to get back to fighting the war on women......

silverscreenselect wrote:Here's who we need in charge of the Secret Service:

Isn't that the one where Frank Horrigan wants to prove he's a macho man by carrying a gun?

Estonut wrote: Here's who we need in charge of the Secret Service:
Isn't that the one where Frank Horrigan wants to prove he's a macho man by carrying a gun?

Some people do need a gun in their line of work, but relatively few.

silverscreenselect wrote:However, with the exception of the military and police forces and a few other rather limited exceptions, I think they [guns] do more harm than good.

According to statistics, almost 18 million blacks voted in the 2012 Presidential election. Of that total, Mitt Romney got about 7% of the vote or about 1,250,000 black votes. It's not surprising you can find a few of them ready to talk about their reasons. They know it's a good way to get the best seats at the next Republican convention.

Sen. Guillroy is quite willing to talk about it.

silverscreenselect wrote:According to statistics, almost 18 million blacks voted in the 2012 Presidential election. Of that total, Mitt Romney got about 7% of the vote or about 1,250,000 black votes. It's not surprising you can find a few of them ready to talk about their reasons. They know it's a good way to get the best seats at the next Republican convention.

Did you even bother to listen to what Mr. Guillory said? What did he say that was untrue or divisive in any way? Based on what he said I would vote for hom if I could. Even if he's just saying it to get a good seat at the convention. Can I still keep my conservative racial attitudes?

You discount what the man says because it goes against your agenda and your narrative and bigotry. I listen to what he says and take his words at face value. He is not promoting devisiveness like Sharpton et al. Who's the bigot, SSS?

flockofseagulls104 wrote:

silverscreenselect wrote:According to statistics, almost 18 million blacks voted in the 2012 Presidential election. Of that total, Mitt Romney got about 7% of the vote or about 1,250,000 black votes. It's not surprising you can find a few of them ready to talk about their reasons. They know it's a good way to get the best seats at the next Republican convention.

Did you even bother to listen to what Mr. Guillory said? What did he say that was untrue or divisive in any way? Based on what he said I would vote for hom if I could. Even if he's just saying it to get a good seat at the convention. Can I still keep my conservative racial attitudes?

You discount what the man says because it goes against your agenda and your narrative and bigotry. I listen to what he says and take his words at face value. He is not promoting devisiveness like Sharpton et al. Who's the bigot, SSS?

He's wrong because SSS is right.

flockofseagulls104 wrote:

silverscreenselect wrote:According to statistics, almost 18 million blacks voted in the 2012 Presidential election. Of that total, Mitt Romney got about 7% of the vote or about 1,250,000 black votes. It's not surprising you can find a few of them ready to talk about their reasons. They know it's a good way to get the best seats at the next Republican convention.

Did you even bother to listen to what Mr. Guillory said? What did he say that was untrue or divisive in any way? Based on what he said I would vote for hom if I could. Even if he's just saying it to get a good seat at the convention. Can I still keep my conservative racial attitudes?

You discount what the man says because it goes against your agenda and your narrative and bigotry. I listen to what he says and take his words at face value. He is not promoting devisiveness like Sharpton et al. Who's the bigot, SSS?

Well, you will note that Elbert Guillory did not say one word about how the Republican party policies would help blacks in Louisiana, those same blacks who got a good long firsthand look at how President Bush helped them after Hurricane Katrina. And they've also gotten a good look in a number of states at how Republican policies to combat non-existent voter fraud keep getting enacted whose actual effect and purpose is to inhibit the black vote.

silverscreenselect wrote: ... those same blacks who got a good long firsthand look at how President Bush helped them after Hurricane Katrina. And they've also gotten a good look in a number of states at how Republican policies to combat non-existent voter fraud keep getting enacted whose actual effect and purpose is to inhibit the black vote.

I suppose it would be inconvenient to mention former New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin's recent conviction and start of a prison sentence for corruption and contract fixing, especially those charge relating to Katrina recovery?

Rehashing the fault of the guy actually responsible for the disaster's aftermath would be pointless.

Pointing out that the federal intervention actually violated the then law since the mayor, then the governor of the state affected hadn't requested federal help. Thanks be that the law has been changed and the federal government has amassed even more power in a centralized government.

Or linking to the very recent Georgia voter fraud case/conviction would just undermine SSS' contentions that simply must be true because he wishes it so.

Ignore the man behind the curtain...

Certainly the Secret does. Regardless of past problems, the current Secret Service and its problems, never mind the VA, the IRS, the FCC, the SEC, et al, all are part of the executive branch. Management of is the responsibility of a certain Chief Executive. It's not his fault. He is only the one in charge. You can't expect him to actually manage.

silverscreenselect wrote: those same blacks who got a good long firsthand look at how President Bush helped them after Hurricane Katrina.

You are completely wrong about the situation and why assistance was delayed (their black mayor denying the Federal Government to come in and assist even though the Federal Government was ready and willing) (or their black mayor no giving a mandatory evacuation or providing enough logistical resources to evacuate), or even why so much of it was a critical need (the majority of those in need were in need because they failed to help themselves, either by evacuating when it was recommended, or by just getting a frickin' job and providing for themselves rather than relying on everyone else to support them). Yep, still whining "Bush's fault". Pathetic.

Here is a book recommendation for you:
Deadly Indifference: The Perfect (Political) Storm: Hurricane Katrina, The Bush White House, and Beyond by Michael Brown

I know you won't read it. You wouldn't want any facts to influence your prejudices.

BackInTex wrote:
Here is a book recommendation for you:
Deadly Indifference: The Perfect (Political) Storm: Hurricane Katrina, The Bush White House, and Beyond by Michael Brown

Is that the same Michael Brown who headed FEMA, which did such a great job of handling the Katrina situation?

He surely wouldn't have any agenda in trying to absolve himself of blame.

Flybrick wrote: [Or linking to the very recent Georgia voter fraud case/conviction would just undermine SSS' contentions that simply must be true because he wishes it so.

I hadn't even heard of a Georgia voter fraud case (and these get reported here very frequently), so I looked it up and here's the one I found. It took place in south Georgia and involved a primary election. Ten people were indicted, one went to trial three times and was finally acquitted. All the officials who were supposedly elected due to fraudulent ballots have been re-elected twice since then. And the case involved absentee ballots, which none of the so called anti-fraud measures deal with.

But I guess that would just undermine Flybrick's contentions that simply must be true because he heard Sean Hannity say them.

http://www.l-a-k-e.org/blog/2014/09/lul ... more-10580

Flybrick wrote: Certainly the Secret does. Regardless of past problems, the current Secret Service and its problems, never mind the VA, the IRS, the FCC, the SEC, et al, all are part of the executive branch. Management of is the responsibility of a certain Chief Executive. It's not his fault. He is only the one in charge. You can't expect him to actually manage.

I've never said Obama was a good manager. I didn't vote for him either time. Neither was Bush, and I didn't vote for him either time either. But he's not on the ballot, and the Republicans still haven't given black or any minority voters any reason to vote for them.

it's about time she resigned. My favorite story about this mess is that she told people when she came in that she wanted them to be more like Disneyland and emphasize the service part of Secret Service. My own opinion is that the SS should be one of the few government agencies that errs on the side of assholiness. There is no customer service aspect of the Secret Service. You have one job, and one customer. And they have failed miserably recently.

mrkelley23 wrote:it's about time she resigned. My favorite story about this mess is that she told people when she came in that she wanted them to be more like Disneyland and emphasize the service part of Secret Service. My own opinion is that the SS should be one of the few government agencies that errs on the side of assholiness. There is no customer service aspect of the Secret Service. You have one job, and one customer. And they have failed miserably recently.

I agree with this. I'm glad she's gone.

And furthermore, if it had been a male agent, the news reports would not have said a male agent was overpowered by the suspect; they would have just said an agent was overpowered. So, she managed by her stupid policies and probably putting someone in the White House who wasn't fully trained to plant a seed of doubt about women not being qualified for such a job. I'm glad she's gone.

SportsFan68 wrote:

mrkelley23 wrote:it's about time she resigned. My favorite story about this mess is that she told people when she came in that she wanted them to be more like Disneyland and emphasize the service part of Secret Service. My own opinion is that the SS should be one of the few government agencies that errs on the side of assholiness. There is no customer service aspect of the Secret Service. You have one job, and one customer. And they have failed miserably recently.

I agree with this. I'm glad she's gone.

And furthermore, if it had been a male agent, the news reports would not have said a male agent was overpowered by the suspect; they would have just said an agent was overpowered. So, she managed by her stupid policies and probably putting someone in the White House who wasn't fully trained to plant a seed of doubt about women not being qualified for such a job. I'm glad she's gone.

Amen. I hadn't even thought about that aspect of it. Even more reason for her to be gone.

silverscreenselect wrote: Is that the same Michael Brown who headed FEMA, which did such a great job of handling the Katrina situation?

He surely wouldn't have any agenda in trying to absolve himself of blame.

It's clear you have no desire to know the truth.