WWTBAM Bored

Sure to be overshadowed by yesterday's death...

Lauren Bacall, Star of Hollywood’s Golden Age, Dies at 89

Perhaps not. I doubt conservatives will be trying to make political hay over her death though.

Bob Juch wrote:Perhaps not. I doubt conservatives will be trying to make political hay over her death though.

WTF? What "conservatives"here have done so? Think you need to get off whatever sites you think are making political hay. Cause you aren't visiting many mainstream ones.

Estonut wrote:Sure to be overshadowed by yesterday's death...

Lauren Bacall, Star of Hollywood’s Golden Age, Dies at 89

A legend.

Bob Juch wrote:Perhaps not. I doubt conservatives will be trying to make political hay over her death though.

Please do not politicize a death.

RIP an accomplished actress.

Beebs52 wrote:

Estonut wrote:Sure to be overshadowed by yesterday's death...

Lauren Bacall, Star of Hollywood’s Golden Age, Dies at 89

A legend.

A queen of wack before wack was cool. In a good way, of course.

mrkelley23 wrote:

Beebs52 wrote:

Estonut wrote:Sure to be overshadowed by yesterday's death...

Lauren Bacall, Star of Hollywood’s Golden Age, Dies at 89

A legend.

A queen of wack before wack was cool. In a good way, of course.

Man, I should have her wack. Sigh.

mrkelley23 wrote:

Beebs52 wrote:

Estonut wrote:Sure to be overshadowed by yesterday's death...

Lauren Bacall, Star of Hollywood’s Golden Age, Dies at 89

A legend.

A queen of wack before wack was cool. In a good way, of course.

Man, I should have her wack. Sigh.

Two.....

And RIP to another great one.

She made a name for herself in Hollywood with just one line:



Sadly, there are few actors or actresses around with her type of class any more.

RIP

Bob Juch wrote:Perhaps not. I doubt conservatives will be trying to make political hay over her death though.

I am not a conservative, but I am as sick of your damn kneejerk soapbox as any conservative here.

It is amazingly hypocritical for you to chastise conservatives for making political hay over the death of Robin Williams when you yourself are using the death of Lauren Bacall to make a political point.

I don't expect a response to this. I don't expect it to penetrate at all.

I had to read her autobiography By Myself to become a fan. Then I understood her better and enjoyed her movies more.

She didn't have a big role in Misery, but it's my favorite anyway. She was perfect.

I'm glad someone had this scene on YouTube. My favorite Bacall role was as the wife of a missing man who hires Paul Newman to find her husband in Harper. The film has some great dialogue by William Goldman, based on one of the Lew Archer novels by Ross MacDonald. Newman puts every character in the film in his or her place ... except Bacall. It's a terrific example of refined cattiness on her part and she isn't cowed by Newman in this scene:

Beebs52 wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:Perhaps not. I doubt conservatives will be trying to make political hay over her death though.

WTF? What "conservatives"here have done so? Think you need to get off whatever sites you think are making political hay. Cause you aren't visiting many mainstream ones.

I did not say anyone here had done so. I don't visit conservative sites, but the biggest mainstream one is Fox News. Their Shepard Smith said on the air, "Something inside you is so horrible or you're such a coward or whatever the reason that you decide that you have to end it. Robin Williams, at 63, did that today," Smith said during his breaking news telecast. He later apologized saying to the website Mediaite, "I would never presume to know anything about his private life. And if any of his family members and friends were to have seen me use the word 'coward,' I would be horrified. I would just like to apologize to the end of the earth to anyone who might think that I meant to openly call him a 'coward.' To the core of my being, I regret it. It just came out of my mouth. And I'm so sorry. And to anyone and their families who see that, I am sorry." He should have said that on the air instead of to a website.

Others, such as Rush Limbaugh, have said it was Williams's "liberal lifestyle" that resulted in his death.

franktangredi wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:Perhaps not. I doubt conservatives will be trying to make political hay over her death though.

I am not a conservative, but I am as sick of your damn kneejerk soapbox as any conservative here.

It is amazingly hypocritical for you to chastise conservatives for making political hay over the death of Robin Williams when you yourself are using the death of Lauren Bacall to make a political point.

I don't expect a response to this. I don't expect it to penetrate at all.

Wow, one sentence is chastising? I'm not using her death to make a point, merely pointing out that her death won't be politicised.

Bob Juch wrote: I doubt conservatives will be trying to make political hay over her death though.

Bob Juch wrote: I did not say anyone here had done so. I don't visit conservative sites, but the biggest mainstream one is Fox News. Their Shepard Smith said on the air, "Something inside you is so horrible or you're such a coward or whatever the reason that you decide that you have to end it. Robin Williams, at 63, did that today," Smith said during his breaking news telecast.

How is that anything anything political? The ONLY person that made that political is you.

Bob Juch wrote:Others, such as Rush Limbaugh, have said it was Williams's "liberal lifestyle" that resulted in his death.

Others? Who?
Such as Rush? or Rush? "Such as Rush.." does not imply he actually said anything. Did he? Do you listen to Rush? If not, where is your source of rhetoric?

Bob Juch wrote:

franktangredi wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:Perhaps not. I doubt conservatives will be trying to make political hay over her death though.

I am not a conservative, but I am as sick of your damn kneejerk soapbox as any conservative here.

It is amazingly hypocritical for you to chastise conservatives for making political hay over the death of Robin Williams when you yourself are using the death of Lauren Bacall to make a political point.

I don't expect a response to this. I don't expect it to penetrate at all.

Wow, one sentence is chastising? I'm not using her death to make a point, merely pointing out that her death won't be politicised.

That is disingenuous.

BackInTex wrote:

Bob Juch wrote: I doubt conservatives will be trying to make political hay over her death though.

Bob Juch wrote: I did not say anyone here had done so. I don't visit conservative sites, but the biggest mainstream one is Fox News. Their Shepard Smith said on the air, "Something inside you is so horrible or you're such a coward or whatever the reason that you decide that you have to end it. Robin Williams, at 63, did that today," Smith said during his breaking news telecast.

How is that anything anything political? The ONLY person that made that political is you.

Bob Juch wrote:Others, such as Rush Limbaugh, have said it was Williams's "liberal lifestyle" that resulted in his death.

Others? Who?
Such as Rush? or Rush? "Such as Rush.." does not imply he actually said anything. Did he? Do you listen to Rush? If not, where is your source of rhetoric?

Oh for fuck's sake! Here's a source:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... lf-due-le/

Please don't respond here, start a new thread. It was never my intent to go off topic here.

Bob Juch wrote: Their Shepard Smith said on the air, "Something inside you is so horrible or you're such a coward or whatever the reason that you decide that you have to end it. Robin Williams, at 63, did that today," Smith said during his breaking news telecast. He later apologized saying to the website Mediaite, "I would never presume to know anything about his private life. And if any of his family members and friends were to have seen me use the word 'coward,' I would be horrified. I would just like to apologize to the end of the earth to anyone who might think that I meant to openly call him a 'coward.' To the core of my being, I regret it. It just came out of my mouth. And I'm so sorry. And to anyone and their families who see that, I am sorry." He should have said that on the air instead of to a website.

I see this as being stupid and insensitive but I don't see it as being a "conservative" viewpoint. Here's something nearly as insensitive from Jeffrey Wells, who writes for one of the film blogs I read regularly and is about as liberal as they get (he regularly bashes Hillary for being in the pocket of the business community):

I’m very, very, very sad about this. The poor guy had been wrestling with severe depression, probably in part because his heyday was clearly over and he was on a kind of career downswing. I hate to say this but he was. Life can feel so awful and cruel at times when the heat leaves the room and the candle starts to flicker. The weight can feel crushing and oppressive. And for a guy who seemed to burn a lot more brightly than most of us, certainly in the late ’70s, ’80s and ’90s. A genius improviser, gifted madman and comic superstar for…what, 25 years or so?

Smith, at least, knew when to apologize. Wells was still at it today, talking about Williams' house:

Williams’ ranch pad [below] is large and sprawling but is basically looks like a cookie-cutter suburban tract home. No security walls to speak of, no big lawn, no pond, no sense of style…just the home of a regular successful guy. The suburbs are full of homes like this, but stars don’t live in them. I know what kind of homes they usually live in. Trust me — they don’t look like this. This could be the home of a real-estate queen or a contractor who builds shopping malls or some dude who owns a car dealership. I’m guessing that Williams used to to live in a movie-star home or two but he had to cut back. This is the fallback place that he bought after saying, “Well, it’s okay…what the hell, there’s plenty of room.”

People can be insensitive regardless of their political views, and I don't view either statement as being in the slightest bit political. And lowering oneself to Rush Limbaugh's level to make a political point about a person's death, whether directly or in "responding" to someone else's insensitive statement is low and does a disservice to the memory of both Williams and Bacall.

I was one of those people. You know, the ones who, when someone mentioned depression, the first instinct is to say, "Buck up, buttercup." I was the "if you think you've got it bad, go spend some time at the Rescue Mission" person. Then I was hit with depression after my husband's accident. About three years into that adventure, I realized I was not participating, just going through the motions. I told myself the same things I thought about telling others when they complained. Buck up. You could be worse off. At least you have a <fill in the blank> when lots of others don't. Eventually none of it mattered. I don't believe I was ever suicidal, but I was most definitely what I'd call coma-cidal. I prayed daily for 'something' to happen to send me into a coma so I could just check-out for, oh, six months or so. I just wanted to sleep forever. Thankfully, I was taking my husband to a counselor at the time, and she recognized what was going on. It took some doing, but she talked me into anti-depressants. I resisted because in my mind, my depression was 'situational' and my situation wasn't going to change. She helped me understand the physiological impact of stress, etc., that pills could help with. I stayed on them for two years, then weaned myself off them. Things are much better now. I get down, but not like before, and I bounce back. But I remember, and it gives me a better understanding of those going through it. Mine was nothing compared to what Robin Williams struggled with. God rest his beautiful soul. And Ms. Bacall's, as well.

Or stay neutral on politics and say Lauren Bacall dead at 89 or mention her death the way that's not allowed here

I was going to write something along the lines of what Tgirl wrote, but she wrote it much better than I ever could because she went through it. I had a brief episode after my ex dumped me, but it was nothing like clinical depression. Most of us have no idea what it's about, just as non-alcoholics can throw out with such callous disregard, "Oh, you can have just one. Come on, don't be a buzzkill." Thanks to AA, that's largely ended in this country, but people like the critic SSS mentioned are still prattling on about depression, something they know nothing about, and doing real damage to people who could be helped with medication or therapy.

Apparently, this one can be laid at Madonna's door. Now everyone named in her hit "Vogue" has passed.

RIP Betty Perske. I don't always play the "they're a lansman" bit but boy, she was the world's most famous "nice Jewish girl". Only maybe not in the way nice Jewish boys' Moms meant.


Now, I would have left it at that, but since some of the bios mention that at least the "Bacall" part was her mother's maiden name, & "Bacall" doesn't sound particularly Jewish, this bio in the link below confirms that it was originally "Bacal" (still doesn't sound particularly Jewish, or particularly anything, but what the hey) & the extra "l" was added for Hollywood. Howard Hawkes came up with "Lauren". I've read it various places that her friends all her life called her "Betty".


http://jacksonville.com/slideshow/2014- ... ll#slide-1