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#1 Post by **Bob78164** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:33 pm

But the final score of the UCLA - Texas A&M game should have been 51-49. The replays clearly showed that the red light went off before the dunk at the buzzer. --Bob

Ritterskoop · #2 Post by **Ritterskoop** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:20 pm

I waited a while before putting it in the paper, but CBS and AP both said 53, and we had to go with it. Maybe they will correct it later.

AnnieCamaro · #3 Post by **AnnieCamaro** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:56 pm

I lovehate basketball.

I thought it was hardhardhard to be a basketball picker, but now I know that after you've picked your teams, it's harderharderharder to be a basketball watcher.

#4 Post by **Bob78164** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:12 am

Ritterskoop wrote:I waited a while before putting it in the paper, but CBS and AP both said 53, and we had to go with it. Maybe they will correct it later.

They won't. That's the official score. If the referees had reviewed it, though, they would have corrected the score. --Bob

ulysses5019 · #5 Post by **ulysses5019** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:30 am

Did it make any difference on the Vegas point spread?

Bob Juch · #6 Post by **Bob Juch** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:57 am

Bob78164 wrote:But the final score of the UCLA - Texas A&M game should have been 51-49. The replays clearly showed that the red light went off before the dunk at the buzzer. --Bob

Wow, why so low?

#7 Post by **Bob78164** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:26 am

Bob Juch wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:But the final score of the UCLA - Texas A&M game should have been 51-49. The replays clearly showed that the red light went off before the dunk at the buzzer. --Bob
Wow, why so low?

Shipp went 0 for the game, and Westbrook went 0 for the first half. Mbah a Moute didn't look like himself -- I'm guessing he hasn't fully recovered from the sprained ankle he suffered in the Pac 10 tournament. Also, A&M is a big team that plays tough defense. --Bob

#8 Post by **Bob78164** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:26 am

ulysses5019 wrote:Did it make any difference on the Vegas point spread?

I don't think so. I think UCLA was favored by 10 1/2. --Bob

ulysses5019 · #9 Post by **ulysses5019** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:38 am

How about the over/under?

SportsFan68 · #10 Post by **SportsFan68** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:08 pm

Someone in the control booth must have taken it upon her or himself to change it to 51-49 -- that's definitely what was on the screen for at least a few seconds, and that's what SteelersFan recorded on his sheet. I didn't know until just now that the official score was 53.

#11 Post by **Bob78164** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:16 pm

SportsFan68 wrote:Someone in the control booth must have taken it upon her or himself to change it to 51-49 -- that's definitely what was on the screen for at least a few seconds, and that's what SteelersFan recorded on his sheet. I didn't know until just now that the official score was 53.

I wouldn't blame the control room for this one -- the live shot clearly showed an official waving off the basket. Another official must have overruled him, incorrectly as it happens, but the CBS feed had the official score before they signed off from the game.

But they also got a much more consequential call wrong. The front page of the Los Angeles Times sports section has a great picture of Shipp's block of Sloan at the end of the game. The ball is still in Sloan's hand, and you can clearly see Shipp's fingers wrapped around Sloan's wrist. They should have called the foul. --Bob

silvercamaro · #12 Post by **silvercamaro** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:20 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
But they also got a much more consequential call wrong. The front page of the Los Angeles Times sports section has a great picture of Shipp's block of Sloan at the end of the game. The ball is still in Sloan's hand, and you can clearly see Shipp's fingers wrapped around Sloan's wrist. They should have called the foul. --Bob

With many years of practice, I have found serenity in remembering that the outcome of games often involves luck -- and that includes the luck of the outcome of officials' rulings on specific plays.

#13 Post by **Bob78164** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:36 pm

silvercamaro wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:
But they also got a much more consequential call wrong. The front page of the Los Angeles Times sports section has a great picture of Shipp's block of Sloan at the end of the game. The ball is still in Sloan's hand, and you can clearly see Shipp's fingers wrapped around Sloan's wrist. They should have called the foul. --Bob
With many years of practice, I have found serenity in remembering that the outcome of games often involves luck -- and that includes the luck of the outcome of officials' rulings on specific plays.

I have found that such serenity is much easier for me, at least, to achieve where, as here, the blown call goes in my team's favor. --Bob

TheConfessor · #14 Post by **TheConfessor** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:51 pm

The NCAA doesn't care about any of that stuff. They're more focused on their own self aggrandizement, even if it changes the outcome of a game. In the past few days, I've seen several players slip on those absurdly huge center court NCAA logos that are installed at each regional site.

Ritterskoop · #15 Post by **Ritterskoop** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:47 pm

AP sent a correction this afternoon:

Repeating last night’s box to fix Westbrook’s shooting, reflecting last shot of game occurred after time expired.

TheConfessor · #16 Post by **TheConfessor** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:37 pm

That's surprising, since the NCAA's own site still shows it as 53-49.
http://www.ncaa.com/basketball-mens/def ... e=20080322

Ritterskoop · #17 Post by **Ritterskoop** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:59 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Ritterskoop wrote:I waited a while before putting it in the paper, but CBS and AP both said 53, and we had to go with it. Maybe they will correct it later.
They won't. That's the official score. If the referees had reviewed it, though, they would have corrected the score. --Bob

AP did send a corrected box score, this afternoon.

Ritterskoop · #18 Post by **Ritterskoop** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:08 pm

http://www.newsday.com/sports/college/w ... 3321.story

The officials did change the score last night. It wasn't a process we saw on TV.

TheConfessor · #19 Post by **TheConfessor** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:29 pm

Yep, the LA Times made the correction.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/college/b ... 1104.story

Their photo gallery clearly shows the uncalled foul in the final seconds.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/college/b ... ry?index=2

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