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$8 for a gallon of milk?

#1 Post by Bob Juch » Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:37 pm

An $8 gallon of milk? That's what you could be seeing at the supermarket, if Congress doesn't pass a new farm bill soon.

Why the possible jump off the so-called "dairy cliff" and potential price hike? The farm bill from 2008 — which overrode legislation from back in 1949 — is set to expire at the end of the year, CNBC reported.

Without a farm bill, the law would revert to the 64-year-old permanent one, which would require the government to buy dairy products at about twice the market rate. That old law was enacted when the dairy industry was far less efficient and far smaller than it is today, NPR explained.

U.S. Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack told NPR that due to the increased price the government would have to pay, dairy producers would be forced to sell to the government in large quantities — causing shortages in stores and ultimately major price hikes.

That would hit Americans' wallets hard.

"In most cases, it's the reason why we've had fairly routine extensions of the farm bill for the past 50 years," he told NPR.

The deadline to extend the 2008 farm bill comes at the end of the year, and according to Chris Galen, senior vice president of communications for the National Milk Producers Federation, "gridlock on Capitol Hill" is why a vote for a new bill is being pushed to the last minute.

"It's very similar to the showdown and shutdown we had in October," he told CNBC.

CNBC reported that if Congress fails to pass a new farm bill, there could be a 9 percent drop in domestic dairy demand, and the dairy export industry could essentially disappear.

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Re: $8 for a gallon of milk?

#2 Post by jaybee » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:48 pm

You can bet we are watching this one intently. Thanks to having the three man-children still living at home, we consume just under 2 gallons of milk each and every day. The only good thing about $8 a gallon milk is that if we get used to it then when our young men do manage to jump out of the parental nest, we will have a fortune in cash flow money available.
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Re: $8 for a gallon of milk?

#3 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:52 pm

Its almost as if government interference in the market has unfortunate consequences.
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Re: $8 for a gallon of milk?

#4 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:54 pm

Meanwhile in Venezuela and Argentina....
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Re: $8 for a gallon of milk?

#5 Post by BackInTex » Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:02 pm

The good news is that if you like your milk you can keep it.
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Re: $8 for a gallon of milk?

#6 Post by Bob Juch » Thu Dec 05, 2013 8:07 am

I don't drink milk and object to my tax money being used to buy it.
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Re: $8 for a gallon of milk?

#7 Post by BackInTex » Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:50 am

Bob Juch wrote:I don't drink milk and object to my tax money being used to buy it.

But you are ok with my tax money buying things for others that I don't use.
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Re: $8 for a gallon of milk?

#8 Post by tlynn78 » Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:15 am

BackInTex wrote:
Bob Juch wrote:I don't drink milk and object to my tax money being used to buy it.

But you are ok with my tax money buying things for others that I don't use.

Priceless.
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Re: $8 for a gallon of milk?

#9 Post by Bob Juch » Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:39 am

BackInTex wrote:
Bob Juch wrote:I don't drink milk and object to my tax money being used to buy it.
But you are ok with my tax money buying things for others that I don't use.
I hope you realize I was facetiously sounding like a Republican.
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Re: $8 for a gallon of milk?

#10 Post by macrae1234 » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:05 pm

Can someone explain why 80% of the appropriations for the farm bill are for food stamps?
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Re: $8 for a gallon of milk?

#11 Post by macrae1234 » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:06 pm

Can someone explain why 80% of the appropriations for the farm bill are for food stamps?
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Re: $8 for a gallon of milk?

#12 Post by Bob Juch » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:13 pm

macrae1234 wrote:Can someone explain why 80% of the appropriations for the farm bill are for food stamps?
Because Congress hasn't taken that out of it yet. The program started out as a way to use surplus farm products ("government cheese") but has transmogrified to what it is today. The USDA shouldn't have anything to do with it.
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Re: $8 for a gallon of milk?

#13 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:15 pm

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... hit-7.html


The 1949 bill mandates that the secretary of agriculture set a floor on prices for the milk sold by producers (usually dairy cooperatives) at what’s known as the parity price. According to the 1949 bill, that price is $39.53 per hundred pounds (PDF). The prevailing price for dairy producers is closer to $19 or $20 per hundred pounds. That $39.53 translates to roughly doubling milk prices, which means that the price for a gallon of milk would go up to about $7.
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feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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