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Walmart's having a food drive

#1 Post by Bob Juch » Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:47 pm

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The photo above comes from the Walmart on Atlantic Boulevard in Canton, Ohio.

That's right, it's for the own underpaid employees!
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Re: Walmart's having a food drive

#2 Post by jaybee » Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:16 pm

Call me just a stupid, old-fashioned small-businessman but every time we start making a nice profit I pay out bonus money to the guys who put us there.
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#3 Post by Bob Juch » Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:27 pm

jaybee wrote:Call me just a stupid, old-fashioned small-businessman but every time we start making a nice profit I pay out bonus money to the guys who put us there.
Sam Walton's widow and kids receive more money each year than the lowest 41% of American workers - combined.
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#4 Post by TheConfessor » Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:45 pm

Bob Juch wrote:
jaybee wrote:Call me just a stupid, old-fashioned small-businessman but every time we start making a nice profit I pay out bonus money to the guys who put us there.
Sam Walton's widow and kids more more money each year than the lowest 41% of American workers - combined.
I think you omitted a verb, so it's hard to evaluate the accuracy of your claim.

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#5 Post by silverscreenselect » Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:40 am

They could probably enjoy Thanksgiving dinner a bit more if they didn't have to be at work at 6:00 on Thanksgiving evening.
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Re: Walmart's having a food drive

#6 Post by Bob Juch » Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:46 am

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Bob Juch wrote:
jaybee wrote:Call me just a stupid, old-fashioned small-businessman but every time we start making a nice profit I pay out bonus money to the guys who put us there.
Sam Walton's widow and kids more more money each year than the lowest 41% of American workers - combined.
I think you omitted a verb, so it's hard to evaluate the accuracy of your claim.
Gee, I thought you were smart enough to figure it out.
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#7 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:10 pm

A new Wal-Mart store in Washington D.C. has been inundated with applications for associates.
The store is currently combing through more than 23,000 applications for 600 available positions, reports NBC Washington.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/wal-mart ... z2l7XJp6GV
Suitguy is not bitter.

feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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#8 Post by Bob Juch » Tue Nov 19, 2013 2:12 pm

themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:
A new Wal-Mart store in Washington D.C. has been inundated with applications for associates.
The store is currently combing through more than 23,000 applications for 600 available positions, reports NBC Washington.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/wal-mart ... z2l7XJp6GV
At least the minimum wage there is $8.50 an hour.
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Re: Walmart's having a food drive

#9 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:16 pm

Bob Juch wrote:
themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:
A new Wal-Mart store in Washington D.C. has been inundated with applications for associates.
The store is currently combing through more than 23,000 applications for 600 available positions, reports NBC Washington.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/wal-mart ... z2l7XJp6GV
At least the minimum wage there is $8.50 an hour.
That might explain why so many people as desperate for work.
Suitguy is not bitter.

feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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#10 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:26 pm

Please stop posting leftist propaganda on the bored. We get enough of it in the main stream media.
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#11 Post by Bob78164 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:24 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:Please stop posting leftist propaganda on the bored. We get enough of it in the main stream media.
It's not propaganda to note that the minimum wage is not enough to provide housing and food security. When companies like Walmart (who can certainly afford better pay) pay their employees so little that they can't afford housing and food, it's the taxpayers who pick up the slack. --Bob
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#12 Post by Estonut » Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:54 pm

Bob78164 wrote:It's not propaganda to note that the minimum wage is not enough to provide housing and food security.
Has minimum wage ever been enough for that?
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#13 Post by BackInTex » Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:00 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote:Please stop posting leftist propaganda on the bored. We get enough of it in the main stream media.
It's not propaganda to note that the minimum wage is not enough to provide housing and food security. When companies like Walmart (who can certainly afford better pay) pay their employees so little that they can't afford housing and food, it's the taxpayers who pick up the slack. --Bob
It takes two Bob. The folks working for Walmart are not being conscripted. They are free to go work for any other company that will hire them. If they need more than minumum wage they shouldn't work at Walmart. If Walmart wants to employ the same people employed by other employers who pay better, then Walmart will pay better.

The problem is, many current Walmart employees are overpaid as is, but Walmart has to pay them the Federal minimum wage. Seems a lot of people don't realize the purpose of an employee. It is not to get paid by an employer. It is to provide a service or value to the employer and they should be compensated based on that value. That value is complicated but whatever it is, the employee should be the one to make sure they can provide enough value to support themselves and their family to their employer.

Walmart appears to be happy with the type of employees they get for what they pay. Many of their former customers are not. Things may change as a result. The problem for the current minimum wage Walmart workers is many may be priced out of a job if they don't give Walmart some reason they are worth more.
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#14 Post by Bob Juch » Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:58 pm

Estonut wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:It's not propaganda to note that the minimum wage is not enough to provide housing and food security.
Has minimum wage ever been enough for that?
Yes, it used to be. Prices have risen while wages have not.
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#15 Post by Lackadaisical Stumblebum » Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:04 pm

Before everybody causes permanent injury to themselves clutching their pearls and jerking their knees (what with the price of healthcare these days).......

Of course Juch didn't bother to tell you The Rest of the Story.

These boxes are in an employee only area. So fellow co-workers can help out fellow co-workers if they feel like it. Have you people never worked anywhere that a hat hasn't been passed or one of those cupboard banging things organized or a memo asking people with a lot of sick leave to donate some of theirs to a co-worker in need?

You people should be hip to this kind of thing by now, but it's so much easier to just keep stirring the shit and getting your bowels all in an uproar......
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#16 Post by Bob Juch » Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:12 pm

Lackadaisical Stumblebum wrote:Before everybody causes permanent injury to themselves clutching their pearls and jerking their knees (what with the price of healthcare these days).......

Of course Juch didn't bother to tell you The Rest of the Story.

These boxes are in an employee only area. So fellow co-workers can help out fellow co-workers if they feel like it. Have you people never worked anywhere that a hat hasn't been passed or one of those cupboard banging things organized or a memo asking people with a lot of sick leave to donate some of theirs to a co-worker in need?

You people should be hip to this kind of thing by now, but it's so much easier to just keep stirring the shit and getting your bowels all in an uproar......
It doesn't matter where the bins are. No one that works there should be dependant on donations in order to eat.
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#17 Post by elwoodblues » Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:13 pm

Lackadaisical Stumblebum wrote: These boxes are in an employee only area. So fellow co-workers can help out fellow co-workers if they feel like it. Have you people never worked anywhere that a hat hasn't been passed or one of those cupboard banging things organized or a memo asking people with a lot of sick leave to donate some of theirs to a co-worker in need?
I have donated sick leave to someone in my department who had a family emergency before, and I have seen collections for employees who had an emergency. But this is different. This is a company asking employees to help out other employees simply because the company refuses to pay a living wage.

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#18 Post by littlebeast13 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:25 pm

elwoodblues wrote:
Lackadaisical Stumblebum wrote: These boxes are in an employee only area. So fellow co-workers can help out fellow co-workers if they feel like it. Have you people never worked anywhere that a hat hasn't been passed or one of those cupboard banging things organized or a memo asking people with a lot of sick leave to donate some of theirs to a co-worker in need?
I have donated sick leave to someone in my department who had a family emergency before, and I have seen collections for employees who had an emergency. But this is different. This is a company asking employees to help out other employees simply because the company refuses to pay a living wage.

I wasn't going to respond to this typical example of Juchbaiting, but when even people who I consider to be pretty levelheaded like elwood are reading into this the same thing as Bob and the other anti-Mecca/anti-big business people are, then I guess I better at least say something...

No elwood, this isn't different. This isn't a bread line or the Salvation Mecca Army like the photo looks out of context. I don't know of any Mecca who has or even would do something as tacky as that, on the salesfloor or behind the scenes. These are collections for associates who fell on hard times due to some kind of personal emergency during the year. There was an article about this latest viral picture (maybe the one tmitsss linked to, I didn't bother to check) that explained this...

Of course, people are going to believe what they want to believe, so I'm not going to waste any breath trying to change anyone's mind....

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#19 Post by elwoodblues » Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:47 pm

littlebeast13 wrote:
elwoodblues wrote:
Lackadaisical Stumblebum wrote: These boxes are in an employee only area. So fellow co-workers can help out fellow co-workers if they feel like it. Have you people never worked anywhere that a hat hasn't been passed or one of those cupboard banging things organized or a memo asking people with a lot of sick leave to donate some of theirs to a co-worker in need?
I have donated sick leave to someone in my department who had a family emergency before, and I have seen collections for employees who had an emergency. But this is different. This is a company asking employees to help out other employees simply because the company refuses to pay a living wage.

I wasn't going to respond to this typical example of Juchbaiting, but when even people who I consider to be pretty levelheaded like elwood are reading into this the same thing as Bob and the other anti-Mecca/anti-big business people are, then I guess I better at least say something...

No elwood, this isn't different. This isn't a bread line or the Salvation Mecca Army like the photo looks out of context. I don't know of any Mecca who has or even would do something as tacky as that, on the salesfloor or behind the scenes. These are collections for associates who fell on hard times due to some kind of personal emergency during the year. There was an article about this latest viral picture (maybe the one tmitsss linked to, I didn't bother to check) that explained this...

Of course, people are going to believe what they want to believe, so I'm not going to waste any breath trying to change anyone's mind....

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LB, I'm sure you are right. I was not going to comment on this because the only person on the Bored who actually works there is you, and you seem to like it just fine. It is just that I am angry about a lot of things going on in this country right now, and I have to say something every now and then.

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#20 Post by littlebeast13 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:03 pm

elwoodblues wrote:
littlebeast13 wrote:
elwoodblues wrote: I have donated sick leave to someone in my department who had a family emergency before, and I have seen collections for employees who had an emergency. But this is different. This is a company asking employees to help out other employees simply because the company refuses to pay a living wage.

I wasn't going to respond to this typical example of Juchbaiting, but when even people who I consider to be pretty levelheaded like elwood are reading into this the same thing as Bob and the other anti-Mecca/anti-big business people are, then I guess I better at least say something...

No elwood, this isn't different. This isn't a bread line or the Salvation Mecca Army like the photo looks out of context. I don't know of any Mecca who has or even would do something as tacky as that, on the salesfloor or behind the scenes. These are collections for associates who fell on hard times due to some kind of personal emergency during the year. There was an article about this latest viral picture (maybe the one tmitsss linked to, I didn't bother to check) that explained this...

Of course, people are going to believe what they want to believe, so I'm not going to waste any breath trying to change anyone's mind....

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LB, I'm sure you are right. I was not going to comment on this because the only person on the Bored who actually works there is you, and you seem to like it just fine. It is just that I am angry about a lot of things going on in this country right now, and I have to say something every now and then.

I understand that... and you have every right to be angry at the current state of things.

But at the same time, I have to stand up to the generation of trolls Facebook and Twitter have created who post and spread their bullshit when it's something relevant to me....

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#21 Post by TheConfessor » Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:40 pm

Bob Juch wrote:
TheConfessor wrote:
Bob Juch wrote: Sam Walton's widow and kids more more money each year than the lowest 41% of American workers - combined.
I think you omitted a verb, so it's hard to evaluate the accuracy of your claim.
Gee, I thought you were smart enough to figure it out.
Sorry, but I can't read your mind. I don't know what word could be added to make your statement accurate. Have? Earn? Spend? Burn? Donate?

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#22 Post by silverscreenselect » Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:21 pm

BackInTex wrote: It is not to get paid by an employer. It is to provide a service or value to the employer and they should be compensated based on that value. That value is complicated but whatever it is, the employee should be the one to make sure they can provide enough value to support themselves and their family to their employer.
Unless you're Payton Manning, an individual employee is at a vast bargaining disadvantage compared to an employer like Wal Mart. WalMart is to a certain extent equally dependent on its capital and management on the one hand and its employees on the other for its success, but the employees for the most part do not bargain as a unit. There are only a couple of ways they can do something about that. One is by organizing collectively, and the other is by using their true power, which is the power of the ballot, to enact favorable labor law legislation. Although Wal Mart employees can't effectively negotiate on their own, by banding together with enough like minded voters who recognize the benefits of a self-supporting working class, they can elect like minded legislators.

Walmart depends on our legal framework for its very existence. Its employees should be able to use that framework to have a livable existence.
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#23 Post by a1mamacat » Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:55 pm

Oh Lord, the crap in here today :shock:

I assumed that it was a group effort to help someone out, that may have......

had a serious family situation that caused them to lose time and money, and co-workers were helping them back on their feet.

or

maybe there was a health issue,

or their house burned down,

or they were in a car crash and the other driver had no insurance.

I never once assumed that Walmart was asking customers to donate to staff. Sheesh,
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#24 Post by Bob Juch » Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:21 am

silverscreenselect wrote:
BackInTex wrote: It is not to get paid by an employer. It is to provide a service or value to the employer and they should be compensated based on that value. That value is complicated but whatever it is, the employee should be the one to make sure they can provide enough value to support themselves and their family to their employer.
Unless you're Payton Manning, an individual employee is at a vast bargaining disadvantage compared to an employer like Wal Mart. WalMart is to a certain extent equally dependent on its capital and management on the one hand and its employees on the other for its success, but the employees for the most part do not bargain as a unit. There are only a couple of ways they can do something about that. One is by organizing collectively, and the other is by using their true power, which is the power of the ballot, to enact favorable labor law legislation. Although Wal Mart employees can't effectively negotiate on their own, by banding together with enough like minded voters who recognize the benefits of a self-supporting working class, they can elect like minded legislators.

Walmart depends on our legal framework for its very existence. Its employees should be able to use that framework to have a livable existence.
Walmart employees are trying to unionize. Of course Walmart is getting rid of those who try to organize that. There hundreds of unlawful discharge lawsuits pending.
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#25 Post by BackInTex » Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:27 am

silverscreenselect wrote: Unless you're Payton Manning, an individual employee is at a vast bargaining disadvantage compared to an employer like Wal Mart.
Actually, Walmart employees are in a BETTER position than Payton. They can leave on day 1 and on the same day begin working for another employer doing the same thing for better pay. If they are worth it of course. It is up to them to make themselves worth it.
silverscreenselect wrote: WalMart is to a certain extent equally dependent on its capital and management on the one hand and its employees on the other for its success,
As is almost every enterprise in the US and the world for that matter.
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but the employees for the most part do not bargain as a unit. There are only a couple of ways they can do something about that. One is by organizing collectively, and the other is by using their true power, which is the power of the ballot, to enact favorable labor law legislation. Although Wal Mart employees can't effectively negotiate on their own, by banding together with enough like minded voters who recognize the benefits of a self-supporting working class, they can elect like minded legislators.
Sounds downright Marxist
silverscreenselect wrote: Walmart depends on our legal framework for its very existence. Its employees should be able to use that framework to have a livable existence.
Exactly. The 13th amendment pretty much covers it. Those employees are free, free to leave Walmart anytime they want and to go work for higher wages where someone is willing to pay them those wages.
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