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BackInTex wrote:A bear still shits in the woods but no longer so sure the Pope is Catholic.

I wonder what Wintergreen thinks of all the things the new Pope is saying and doing.

Bob Juch wrote:

BackInTex wrote:A bear still shits in the woods but no longer so sure the Pope is Catholic.

I wonder what Wintergreen thinks of all the things the new Pope is saying and doing.

It looks like, unlike most folks who call themselves Christians, he's actually following the teachings of Jesus.

BackInTex wrote:
Bob, believe in the Bible or not, but clearly what Francis is teaching is not what, according to the Bible, Jesus taught.

silverscreenselect wrote:

BackInTex wrote:
Bob, believe in the Bible or not, but clearly what Francis is teaching is not what, according to the Bible, Jesus taught.

Perhaps Francis got on the hot line with his boss to get some clarification.

On a more serious note, it's my understanding that a lot of Christian belief today is based on the teachings of Paul, who never met Jesus' during Jesus' life. Now, if Paul can have visions of a meeting with Jesus which lead him to writing some of the Gospels Christians believe in today, why can't Francis have similar visions (or insights) which lead him to his own interpretation of Christianity?

BackInTex wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:

BackInTex wrote:A bear still shits in the woods but no longer so sure the Pope is Catholic.

I wonder what Wintergreen thinks of all the things the new Pope is saying and doing.

It looks like, unlike most folks who call themselves Christians, he's actually following the teachings of Jesus.

Once again you prove you don't have a clue.

John 14:6. Jesus answered "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

Pope Francis (paraphrasing)"Do good and follow your conscious and you can get to heaven, even without believing in heaven."

Bob, believe in the Bible or not, but clearly what Francis is teaching is not what, according to the Bible, Jesus taught.

DevilKitty100 wrote:I'm just always in awe that people argue about stuff like this. Boggles my mind.

SportsFan68 wrote:

BackInTex wrote:

Bob Juch wrote: It looks like, unlike most folks who call themselves Christians, he's actually following the teachings of Jesus.

Once again you prove you don't have a clue.

John 14:6. Jesus answered "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

Pope Francis (paraphrasing)"Do good and follow your conscious and you can get to heaven, even without believing in heaven."

Bob, believe in the Bible or not, but clearly what Francis is teaching is not what, according to the Bible, Jesus taught.

I read through a couple summaries of the extensive Jesuit journal La Civilta Cattolica interview, and I can't find anything that would paraphrase into the above statement, BiT.

BackInTex wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:

BackInTex wrote:A bear still shits in the woods but no longer so sure the Pope is Catholic.

I wonder what Wintergreen thinks of all the things the new Pope is saying and doing.

It looks like, unlike most folks who call themselves Christians, he's actually following the teachings of Jesus.

Once again you prove you don't have a clue.

John 14:6. Jesus answered "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

Pope Francis (paraphrasing)"Do good and follow your conscious and you can get to heaven, even without believing in heaven."

Bob, believe in the Bible or not, but clearly what Francis is teaching is not what, according to the Bible, Jesus taught.

Pope Francis wrote:The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! "Father, the atheists?” Even the atheists. Everyone! And this Blood makes us children of God of the first class! We are created children in the likeness of God and the Blood of Christ has redeemed us all! And we all have a duty to do good. And this commandment for everyone to do good, I think, is a beautiful path towards peace. If we, each doing our own part, if we do good to others, if we meet there, doing good, and we go slowly, gently, little by little, we will make that culture of encounter: we need that so much. We must meet one another doing good. "But I don’t believe, Father, I am an atheist!” But do good: we will meet one another there.

Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect works as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray’s case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward-reversing cause and effect. I call these the “wet streets cause rain” stories. Paper’s full of them.

themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:

Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect works as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray’s case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward-reversing cause and effect. I call these the “wet streets cause rain” stories. Paper’s full of them.

jarnon wrote:BiT, I think you're paraphrasing newspaper accounts rather than Pope Francis's actual words. Whenever a Pope mentions atheists, the press tries to read into it something about them going to heaven.

BackInTex wrote:

jarnon wrote:BiT, I think you're paraphrasing newspaper accounts rather than Pope Francis's actual words. Whenever a Pope mentions atheists, the press tries to read into it something about them going to heaven.

You are correct. I was paraphrasing an inaccurate reporting of his words. I read the actual quote from the Pope and agree with others here that he was not saying what was misinterpreted by the press accounts (and repeated by me). Thanks for posting.

mrkelley23 wrote:

BackInTex wrote:

jarnon wrote:BiT, I think you're paraphrasing newspaper accounts rather than Pope Francis's actual words. Whenever a Pope mentions atheists, the press tries to read into it something about them going to heaven.

You are correct. I was paraphrasing an inaccurate reporting of his words. I read the actual quote from the Pope and agree with others here that he was not saying what was misinterpreted by the press accounts (and repeated by me). Thanks for posting.

But....wait.....that's not how the internet works. You're supposed to get all defensive, and then quote of bunch of other tertiary sources you've Googled that support your original message, then refuse to post any more in this thread. This whole graceful acceptance that you might have been mistaken stuff is just, just wrong.

jarnon wrote:The Archbishop of Philadelphia, Charles Chaput, regarded as a conservative, has stated that he has no problem with Pope Francis's leadership.

Chaput to Catholics: Don't use Francis to 'further own agendas'

The list of Church leaders who will be promoted to Cardinal in 2014 will be released next month. Archbishops of Philadelphia have always become Cardinals. Pope Francis is expected to attend the World Conference of Families in Philadelphia in 2015.