Jodi Arias verdict

[macrae1234]

The penalty phase, death or life in prison ended in a mistrial 8 for death 4 for life in prison, a decision must be unanimous. According to AZ law a new jury is to be chosen to decide her fate. If they can't come to a unanimous decision it will be life.
My thoughts are ratings whores like HLN, which owes its birth to this trial, have made it constitutionally impossible to impanel an impartial jury. There are reasons certain information is witheld from juries during trials and that genie is out of the bottle in a second go around. While the DA has said he will change the venue and start again I think that was "beer league talk". Once his superiors, both in Maricopa County and AZ Attorney General, realize that if they do a second hearing the results will be contested to the Supreme Court level on a multitude of constitutional violations.. They have a win, take the plus score. This is not the '30s where you can move a New York City trial up to Malone on the Canadian border where no one has heard of Dutch Schultz and get a favourable decision. Of course HLN/CNN and the rest want a second hearing it is ratings gold.
They interviewed a couple outside the court house yesterday from New Jersey who flew in specifically to be here when the decision was rendered. They said they missed their daughter's prom to be here. People were crying outside the court house because they didn't vote to put her death. Thank God lynching is illegal here.

[Bob Juch]

They should change the law so that if they can't have a unanimous vote for death the sentence is life.

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

They should change the law so that if they can't have a unanimous vote for death the sentence is life.

That is the law in South Carolina

[Bob Juch]

They should change the law so that if they can't have a unanimous vote for death the sentence is life.

That is the law in South Carolina

Yeah, one of the few smart things the legislature has done here recently.

[macrae1234]

That ,apparently, is the law here now but it was changed after but not because of the murder of Travis Anthony so they are trying her under the old rules.

[jarnon]

That ,apparently, is the law here now but it was changed after but not because of the murder of Travis Anthony so they are trying her under the old rules.

I've tried to avoid news reports about this case, but I know the victim's name is Travis Alexander. Are you thinking of Kaylee Anthony?

I hope the authorities end this media fiasco and stop spending taxpayers' money on it.

[macrae1234]

I've tried to avoid news reports about this case, but I know the victim's name is Travis Alexander. Are you thinking of Kaylee Anthony?

That was the Casey Anthony trial in Florida nothing to do with The Jodi Arias trial here(Phoenix)

[Bob Juch]

Does anyone here know why it took four and a half years for her to be brought to trial?

[silverscreenselect]

They interviewed a couple outside the court house yesterday from New Jersey who flew in specifically to be here when the decision was rendered. They said they missed their daughter's prom to be here. People were crying outside the court house because they didn't vote to put her death. Thank God lynching is illegal here.

Not a lot has changed in 100 years except the sophistication of the technology availabe to the "press"

http://chronicle.augusta.com/opinion/jo ... till-stirs

[macrae1234]

The Last Lynching in Arizona

Four years after Arizona was admitted to statehood, an effort began to
change the state's outlaw image by abolishing the death penalty, which
at the time was carried out by hanging.

So in 1916, by a margin of 152 votes out of 37,720 cast, the measure was
passed.

But the following year, a particularly brutal murder changed that.

On May 3, 1917, James Ray Gibson, a 34-year-old traveling salesman and
his 36-year-old wife, Florence, had visited his parents in Globe and were
headed back to their Tucson home. The Apache Trail was the way back to
Tucson. It was a primitive dirt road full of dangerous curves and
switchbacks. In those days, not many people risked driving at night.
The Gibsons made camp near Week's Station, which was about 24 miles
east of Mesa. People traveling long distances always kept camping gear
and provisions with them.

Shortly after dark, a young man named Starr Daley approached the camp
on horseback and asked for a drink of water. Suddenly, Starr opened fire
on James Gibson with a .32 rifle, shooting him six times, the last two at
point-blank range in the head killing him.

According to the Arizona Daily Star, "Mrs. Gibson spent the whole night
on the Apache Trail with her husband's murderer, her clothes taken from
her and under the threat of death, subjected to every whim his seemingly
degenerate mind could think of."

At sunrise, Daley forced Florence to cook breakfast and load up the car
while he used the dead man's razor to shave off his mustache in an attempt
to disguise his appearance. He told her they were going to leave James'
body there, get married, sell the car and go to Oklahoma.

Thinking quickly, she told him he would have to kill her before she would
leave her husband's body in the desert. She said if he wanted to marry
her,
he would have to take her husband's body to a mortuary in Mesa for a
proper burial. Surprisingly, he agreed.

Daley wrapped the body in a blanket and put it in the back seat of the
Dodge touring car and covered it with camping equipment.

As they entered Mesa [suburb of Phoenix now], which then was a small
Mormon farming community, the car ran out of gas on East Main Street.
That is when Daley made the mistake that cost him his life. He left
Florence with the car as he set out to find a gas station. It was early
in the morning when a local resident named H.S. Phelps came by while
riding his bicycle to work. Florence hysterically told him what had
happened and Phelps immediately rode his bicycle to the home of City
Marshal Tom Peyton and relayed Florence's story. Peyton grabbed
his .45 and handed Phelps a shotgun and the pair raced back to the
Dodge.

As they approached, they saw Daley pouring a can of gasoline into
the tank. They arrested him without incident. Florence was taken
to a doctor and Daley had a preliminary appearance before a Mesa
judge before being transferred to the Maricopa County Jail in Phoenix.

When newspapers across the state headlined the gruesome murder and
heinous assault on the victim's wife, emotions ran at a fever pitch as
men and women from all quarters of society throughout the state cried
out for justice. But they knew the worst sentence he could receive was
life in prison since 1916's vote did away with the death penalty.

Daley himself threw fuel on the fire by telling lawmen and newspaper
reporters alike, "I was a fool to take the body in the car. Anyway,
I read the papers. I know they can't hang me. And I know no jail
can hold me for long."

Talk of vigilante justice raced through the streets of Phoenix. People
found the crime so deplorable that life in prison seemed like a slap
on the wrist.

On the evening of May 17, the talk of lynching Daley picked up steam
and some 500 men, as well as a number of women, advanced on the
Maricopa County Jail.

Sheriff W.H. Wilky, in an attempt to prevent mob violence and aware
of the fact he had a duty to protect the prisoner's life, came up with a
scheme to get Daley out of there and take him to the state prison in
Florence. Since no one in the crowd had seen Daley, Wilky had two of
his deputies lead Daley out of the courthouse unshackled and through the
crowd into an awaiting car. When they left, Wilky allowed the leaders
of the crowd to look in the jail cells to see Daley was not there. Since
the leaders had not seen Daley, even if he were there, they would have
a hard time finding him.

Somehow, some people realized the ruse and took off after the deputies'
vehicle. Dozens of vehicles gave chase. One pursuer called ahead and a
large number of cars and people blocked a road bridge just outside
Florence. As the deputies approached they saw the angry mob and
turned their car around only to be met by the convoy that was following
them. Cars surrounded the vehicle with their lights shining. A leader was
selected to approach the car. He wore a white handkerchief over his face
as did most of the others in the mob.

The leader, who was unarmed, told the deputies they wanted Daley. When
they replied they couldn't give up the prisoner, two armed masked men came
up to the car and grabbed Daley. The deputies gave up and headed back to
Phoenix. The mob told Daley they were taking him back to the scene of the
crime where he would be hanged.

According to unsubstantiated accounts that were reported in the Tucson
Citizen,
Daley asked to make a final statement and the crowd obliged. Daley
allegedly
said his mother made him "what I am."

He said, "She ran a brothel when I was young and she used to make me go out
and seduce girls and bring them to work there. I killed Gibson and did
what
I wanted to with his wife."

He allegedly said his real name was Van Ashmore and that his stepfather was
a bank robber. He said he participated in a number of bank robberies with
him and killed a number of men along the way. He said he was willing to be
hanged but hoped he wouldn't be burned or shot full of holes. As a rope
was thrown over a telegraph pole and placed around his neck, Daley once
again blamed his mother for his crimes.

Daley was put on the trunk of a car with the noose around his neck, the
car sped away, leaving Daley dangling from the pole. The New York Times
reported, "And then the perpetrator of the most sensational crime in the
history of Arizona was swung into eternity."

Although many newspapers reported numerous anonymous quotes from so
many people in the mob, Arizona authorities were unable to identify anyone
and no one was charged with Daley's lynching.

In 1918, by a vote of 20,443 to 10,602 capital punishment was restored
in Arizona.

[macrae1234]

Does anyone here know why it took four and a half years for her to be brought to trial?

Don't know but interestingly in the preliminary hearing the ME said he was shot first, make sense why attack him with a knife when you have a gun as Sean Connery said "Isn't that just like a wop? Brings a knife to a gun fight" In the trial the ME and lead detective changed their stories and said he was knifed first. This was done to fit into the DA's agenda. He couldn't get a death penalty without cruel and aggravated circumstances. if he was dead before he was stabbed there was no cruelty.

[etaoin22]

I can't imagine why prosecutors would accept a locale close to the Canadian border for a thirties-era gangster trial, given the boost given to the border economy by bootlegging. A quick search tells me that Malone acquitted Schultz.

[macrae1234]

I can't imagine why prosecutors would accept a locale close to the Canadian border for a thirties-era gangster trial, given the boost given to the border economy by bootlegging. A quick search tells me that Malone acquitted Schultz.

You obviouly never saw Billy Bathgate with Nicole Kidman and Dustin Hoffman and Dutch

[jarnon]

In the second trial, the jury once again couldn't agree, so Arias will get life in prison. Jurors said the split was 11-1 in favor of death.