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RIP Robert Zildijan

#1 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:06 am

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituar ... djian.html

Robert Zildjian, who has died aged 89, was a scion of a family whose cymbal-making business can trace its roots back to the 17th-century Ottoman Empire.
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feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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#2 Post by BackInTex » Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:29 am

themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituar ... djian.html

Robert Zildjian, who has died aged 89, was a scion of a family whose cymbal-making business can trace its roots back to the 17th-century Ottoman Empire.
So he was a smashing success?
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#3 Post by etaoin22 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:57 pm

And I guess his best customers would have been the Efrems. Senior and Junior.

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#4 Post by Beebs52 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:33 pm

etaoin22 wrote:And I guess his best customers would have been the Efrems. Senior and Junior.
That's awful!!!
Well, then

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#5 Post by Bob78164 » Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:45 am

BackInTex wrote:
themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituar ... djian.html

Robert Zildjian, who has died aged 89, was a scion of a family whose cymbal-making business can trace its roots back to the 17th-century Ottoman Empire.
So he was a smashing success?
Ouch. --Bob
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#6 Post by bazodee » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:48 am

Oh no! I grew up in Quincy, MA where he was located.

I have one of his company's t-shirts.
The front has Zildjian on it, written in a faux-middle eastern font and the reverse has script in either Turkish or Armenian.

I've worn this shirt on an airplane a couple times and definitely got sneers. I was even asked if "I was one of those Arabs" (emphasis on the A)

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#7 Post by Bob Juch » Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:10 am

Trivia: Zildjian means "son of a cymbal maker".
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#8 Post by littlebeast13 » Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:13 am

BackInTex wrote:
themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituar ... djian.html

Robert Zildjian, who has died aged 89, was a scion of a family whose cymbal-making business can trace its roots back to the 17th-century Ottoman Empire.
So he was a smashing success?

That deserves a rimshot....

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#9 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:46 am

Suitguy is not bitter.

feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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#10 Post by Bob78164 » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:14 am

littlebeast13 wrote:
BackInTex wrote:
themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituar ... djian.html

Robert Zildjian, who has died aged 89, was a scion of a family whose cymbal-making business can trace its roots back to the 17th-century Ottoman Empire.
So he was a smashing success?

That deserves a rimshot....

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#11 Post by plasticene » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:47 am

Bob Juch wrote:Trivia: Zildijan means "son of a cymbal maker".
What a coincidence! You transpose two letters of his name and get something related to his occupation! :wink:

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#12 Post by Estonut » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:26 pm

His name was Robert Zildjian.
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