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The premiere of the new Star Trek movie, which had been scheduled for this Christmas, is being delayed until May, 2009.

http://www.variety.com/VR1117980912.html

What's a few more months among Trekkies?

Bummer. I can't wait to see the movie.

silverscreenselect wrote:The premiere of the new Star Trek movie, which had been scheduled for this Christmas, is being delayed until May, 2009.

http://www.variety.com/VR1117980912.html

What's a few more months among Trekkies?

That is not a good sign.

silverscreenselect wrote:The premiere of the new Star Trek movie, which had been scheduled for this Christmas, is being delayed until May, 2009.

http://www.variety.com/VR1117980912.html

What's a few more months among Trekkies?

According to scifi.com the movie isn't being delayed because of any problems - Abrams wants to take advantage of the "summer blockbuster" period. I personally think he's wise to do so - Christmas premieres are hit-or-miss because everyone's so busy.

silverscreenselect wrote:The premiere of the new Star Trek movie, which had been scheduled for this Christmas, is being delayed until May, 2009.

http://www.variety.com/VR1117980912.html

What's a few more months among Trekkies?

I am fascinated that the dates of release are being competed for so vigorously nearly a year and a half prior. I suppose it is logical,,but I did not know this happened.

As for me: no Shatner on the screen, no etaoin at the box office.

etaoin22 wrote:

silverscreenselect wrote:The premiere of the new Star Trek movie, which had been scheduled for this Christmas, is being delayed until May, 2009.

http://www.variety.com/VR1117980912.html

What's a few more months among Trekkies?

I am fascinated that the dates of release are being competed for so vigorously nearly a year and a half prior. I suppose it is logical,,but I did not know this happened.

As for me: no Shatner on the screen, no etaoin at the box office.

I prefer Jean-Luc Picard as Captain, but will watch any Star Trek Movie.
I am excited that Leonard Nimoy is going to be in this movie.

etaoin22 wrote:

silverscreenselect wrote:The premiere of the new Star Trek movie, which had been scheduled for this Christmas, is being delayed until May, 2009.

http://www.variety.com/VR1117980912.html

What's a few more months among Trekkies?

I am fascinated that the dates of release are being competed for so vigorously nearly a year and a half prior. I suppose it is logical,,but I did not know this happened.

As for me: no Shatner on the screen, no etaoin at the box office.

I don't know what happened, but as I understand it Abrams was originally not going to include either Nimoy or Shatner. Somehow he was persuaded to change his mind about Nimoy, and when Shatner found out, he tried to get included also, but things had gone too far in the movie to give him a role. There has to be more to the story than that - star billing, money, who knows.

earendel wrote:

etaoin22 wrote:

silverscreenselect wrote:The premiere of the new Star Trek movie, which had been scheduled for this Christmas, is being delayed until May, 2009.

http://www.variety.com/VR1117980912.html

What's a few more months among Trekkies?

I am fascinated that the dates of release are being competed for so vigorously nearly a year and a half prior. I suppose it is logical,,but I did not know this happened.

As for me: no Shatner on the screen, no etaoin at the box office.

I don't know what happened, but as I understand it Abrams was originally not going to include either Nimoy or Shatner. Somehow he was persuaded to change his mind about Nimoy, and when Shatner found out, he tried to get included also, but things had gone too far in the movie to give him a role. There has to be more to the story than that - star billing, money, who knows.

Spock is way cooler than Kirk.

PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:

earendel wrote:

etaoin22 wrote: I am fascinated that the dates of release are being competed for so vigorously nearly a year and a half prior. I suppose it is logical,,but I did not know this happened.

As for me: no Shatner on the screen, no etaoin at the box office.

I don't know what happened, but as I understand it Abrams was originally not going to include either Nimoy or Shatner. Somehow he was persuaded to change his mind about Nimoy, and when Shatner found out, he tried to get included also, but things had gone too far in the movie to give him a role. There has to be more to the story than that - star billing, money, who knows.

Spock is way cooler than Kirk.

Spock is also much more plausible than Kirk adjusting for the fact that neither is exactly a spring chicken in real life appearance anymore given that in the canon Vulcans can live for a very long time. Sarek was over 200 in the canon. Then again Spock is of course half human.

Which brings up a question. They talk about Vulcans living a long time but in the future it would appear that we flimsy humans haven't really significantly extended our lifetimes. Although McCoy did make it to about 150, albeit a frail 150. Most of the other main characters either don't have a full back story or had their lifespans altered in some fashion.

Last I recall, Spock was alive as of STTNG. Nimoy, therefore, could be a bookend kind of thing where he is reminiscing about meeting Kirk. Or there could be some sort of time travel/timewarp thing.

Kirk, though, is dead. D-E-A-D and buried. We saw it in the "Generations" movie. Dead men tell no tales, flashback setups or otherwise. And any timewarp thing cannot account for the fact that Shatner looks a lot older than he did when Kirk kicked the bucket. So unless he was gonna be a Space Ghost, his appearance in the movie would be problematic.

T_Bone0806 wrote:Last I recall, Spock was alive as of STTNG. Nimoy, therefore, could be a bookend kind of thing where he is reminiscing about meeting Kirk. Or there could be some sort of time travel/timewarp thing.

Kirk, though, is dead. D-E-A-D and buried. We saw it in the "Generations" movie. Dead men tell no tales, flashback setups or otherwise. And any timewarp thing cannot account for the fact that Shatner looks a lot older than he did when Kirk kicked the bucket. So unless he was gonna be a Space Ghost, his appearance in the movie would be problematic.

At which point Spock was already some 80 years beyond Kirk and company and still going strong.

Although, as has been seen on many occasions, being dead is no limitation on this type of show. However I thnk Kirk is much better off being dead!

Perhaps he can appear in some Priceline-in Space promotional spot.

T_Bone0806 wrote:Last I recall, Spock was alive as of STTNG. Nimoy, therefore, could be a bookend kind of thing where he is reminiscing about meeting Kirk. Or there could be some sort of time travel/timewarp thing.

Kirk, though, is dead. D-E-A-D and buried. We saw it in the "Generations" movie. Dead men tell no tales, flashback setups or otherwise. And any timewarp thing cannot account for the fact that Shatner looks a lot older than he did when Kirk kicked the bucket. So unless he was gonna be a Space Ghost, his appearance in the movie would be problematic.

Well, since we don't know the setup of the movie, it's hard to decide what is and is not plausible. The fact that Spock/Nimoy is in it means that there must be some sort of "flashback" going on. It might even be possible to have Kirk appear as a hologram in the future, discussing with a living Spock their Academy days.

Is there information that Nimoy is appearing as Spock and not in just some random cameo role? Given that the movie is supposed to be a prequel to the original series, with Zach Quinto (Sylar from "Heroes) as young Spock and Captain Pike still in charge of the Enterprise, it wouldn't be too difficult to keep Kirk out of it altogether, old or young.

I heard that Abrams wanted to do some rewriting of scenes and couldn't do that during the strike, so they could use some extra time for that.
If anyone's interested, I'm drawing Star Trek comics for IDW comics now. Drew 2 issue of a Year Four miniseries and I'm currently drawing a miniseries written by DC Fontana, script editor on the original Trek series (plus writing credits on several other Trek series). It'll be on the stands in April!

reeg2223 wrote:I heard that Abrams wanted to do some rewriting of scenes and couldn't do that during the strike, so they could use some extra time for that.
If anyone's interested, I'm drawing Star Trek comics for IDW comics now. Drew 2 issue of a Year Four miniseries and I'm currently drawing a miniseries written by DC Fontana, script editor on the original Trek series (plus writing credits on several other Trek series). It'll be on the stands in April!

Even though I haven't picked up a comic book in years, I still am in awe of people who create them. Some throwback to my childhood, I am sure, when they were much of what I read.

About 20 years ago, I was friends with a woman who was John Bucema's sister-in-law, and met him once. I was a jibbering idiot throughout the encounter. More than usual.

Most of the casting doesn't bother me but I am having a hard time seeing Karl Urban as Bones.

Maybe it was just my own personal attachment to the character.

Or maybe it was the recent and fairly dreadful Lonesome Dove sequel Urban was in...

I am kind of curious to see what they plan to do with James Doohan's son, who is listed as a rumored member of the cast.

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PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:I prefer Jean-Luc Picard as Captain, but will watch any Star Trek Movie.
I am excited that Leonard Nimoy is going to be in this movie.

Nimoy was on last night's Colbert Report, promoting his book of nude photos of heavy women.

I saw the preview for the movie.

It shows the NCC-1701 Enterprise being built. Everything I've read or heard about this movie is that it is set before the Star Trek TV series. I think that it is supposed to be a young Captain Kirk and the rest of the crew in or just as they leave the Academy.

IMDB lists Chris Pine as playing Captain Kirk and two different actors as playing Spock: Zachary Quinto and Leonard Nimoy.

Apparently there is time travel involved so actors/characters from any version of Star Trek are possible.

andrewjackson wrote:I saw the preview for the movie.

It shows the NCC-1701 Enterprise being built. Everything I've read or heard about this movie is that it is set before the Star Trek TV series. I think that it is supposed to be a young Captain Kirk and the rest of the crew in or just as they leave the Academy.

IMDB lists Chris Pine as playing Captain Kirk and two different actors as playing Spock: Zachary Quinto and Leonard Nimoy.

Apparently there is time travel involved so actors/characters from any version of Star Trek are possible.

It will be interesting to see how they follow the current established Star Trek timeline, if at all. The Enterprise was built before Kirk even entered Starfleet Academy. And of course although Kirk was supposedly the youngest Captain in Starfleet he did not make Captain for about 10 years after graduating from the Academy so presumably the movie covers some of that time period. The Enterprise had already had two Captains before Kirk took over in 2264, Pike of course and the first Captain, Robert April.

tanstaafl2 wrote:

andrewjackson wrote:I saw the preview for the movie.

It shows the NCC-1701 Enterprise being built. Everything I've read or heard about this movie is that it is set before the Star Trek TV series. I think that it is supposed to be a young Captain Kirk and the rest of the crew in or just as they leave the Academy.

IMDB lists Chris Pine as playing Captain Kirk and two different actors as playing Spock: Zachary Quinto and Leonard Nimoy.

Apparently there is time travel involved so actors/characters from any version of Star Trek are possible.

It will be interesting to see how they follow the current established Star Trek timeline. The Enterprise was built before Kirk even entered Starfleet Academy. And of course although Kirk was supposedly the youngest Captain in Starfleet he did not make Captain for about 10 years after graduating from the Academy so presumably the movie covers some of that time period. The Enterprise had already had two Captains before Kirk took over in 2264, Pike of course and the first Captain, Robert April.

Right. I'm not sure that the building of the Enterprise is even part of the movie. The feeling that I got was that they were trying to give a "back to the beginning" feeling to the movie.

There is a Christopher Pike character in this movie. Bruce Greenwood who seems perfect to me from my memories of the Menagerie episodes.

I just looked at the IMDB extended cast list and there is a George Kirk and a "Young Kirk (rumored)" character listed. So this movie may cover quite a span of time.

And I'm not sure that Captain April is "official" Star Trek canon.

I just checked. He is only referenced in the animated series and in some of the books.

andrewjackson wrote:And I'm not sure that Captain April is "official" Star Trek canon.

I just checked. He is only referenced in the animated series and in some of the books.

As you probably know, what constitutes Star Trek canon has become about as convoluted as the storyline on Lost. But if the Enterprise was built in 2245 and Kirk didn't take command until 2264 somebody else had to fill the chair and I don't think it would have been Pike for 19 years.

Several sites refer to CAPT April and Memory Alpha, the wiki Star Trek site notes that Paramount now considers the animated series to be canon as well and note it as such on their sites.

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Canon

The Paramount site also lists April as the first Captain. Perhaps he will make his first non animated appearance in this movie although by the time Kirk gets to the Academy Pike has taken over command.

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Robert_April
Note the reference to the connection between Jonathan Archer and April in this bio.

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/l ... 19568.html

In the end it doesn't much matter I suppose.

andrewjackson wrote:

tanstaafl2 wrote:

andrewjackson wrote:I saw the preview for the movie.

It shows the NCC-1701 Enterprise being built. Everything I've read or heard about this movie is that it is set before the Star Trek TV series. I think that it is supposed to be a young Captain Kirk and the rest of the crew in or just as they leave the Academy.

IMDB lists Chris Pine as playing Captain Kirk and two different actors as playing Spock: Zachary Quinto and Leonard Nimoy.

Apparently there is time travel involved so actors/characters from any version of Star Trek are possible.

It will be interesting to see how they follow the current established Star Trek timeline. The Enterprise was built before Kirk even entered Starfleet Academy. And of course although Kirk was supposedly the youngest Captain in Starfleet he did not make Captain for about 10 years after graduating from the Academy so presumably the movie covers some of that time period. The Enterprise had already had two Captains before Kirk took over in 2264, Pike of course and the first Captain, Robert April.

Right. I'm not sure that the building of the Enterprise is even part of the movie. The feeling that I got was that they were trying to give a "back to the beginning" feeling to the movie.

There is a Christopher Pike character in this movie. Bruce Greenwood who seems perfect to me from my memories of the Menagerie episodes.

I just looked at the IMDB extended cast list and there is a George Kirk and a "Young Kirk (rumored)" character listed. So this movie may cover quite a span of time.

George Kirk and George Kirk Jr are Kirk's father and brother. In another part of the canon George senior supposedly served on the Enterprise with CAPT April.