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Transcript 6/18/2010 - Kate Kobs (carryover contestant)

#1 Post by BBTranscriptTeam » Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:22 pm

Kate Kobs
West Hartford, CT
Unemployed


Kate brought the two things she loves most - her husband Graham and the shoes that will help her "strut her stuff" in the Hot Seat. Meredith thinks they're gorgeous and she got them at a discount thanks to her husband. Kate can cross only one eye at a time. She used to cross both eyes and tried to see what she looked like in the mirror. Kate
demonstrates and Meredith says she finds that disturbing.

Topic Tree:
- World Records
- Important Words
- Astronomy
- Le Tour de France
- U.S. Presidents
- Guy Pierced
- At the Zoo
- Oprah Winfrey
- Pop Singers
- The Animal Kingdom
- Living History
- Basketball
- Old Sayings
- Rolling Papers
- Feats of Strength


$2000 - According to an old saying, "A bird" where "is worth two in the bush"?
A - in the cage
B - in the nest
C - in the oven
D - in the hand
Spoiler
D - in the hand (9)
$3000 - The NBA's Philadelphia 76ers are named for the year what historical document was signed?
A - Declaration of Independence
B - Mayflower Compact
C - Emancipation Proclamation
D - Bill of Rights
Spoiler
A - Declaration of Independence (4)
$5000 - In the United States National African-American History Month is celebrated when?
A - February
B - April
C - June
D - August
Spoiler
A - February (9)
$7500 - "One can fly and the other cannot" is an accurate way of describing a major difference between what two
animals?
A - bees and wasps
B - alligators and crocodiles
C - penguins and puffins
D - monkeys and apes
Spoiler
C - penguins and puffins (15)
$10000 - The pop singer Fergie has what lesser-known first name?
A - Alicia
B - Stacy
C - Robyn
D - Natalie

Kate says that she should know this but she doesn't, so she decides to ask the audience, stopping the clock with 22 seconds remaining.
ATA results
A - 8%
B - 66%
C - 11%
D - 15%
Kate says that wasn't the number she was hoping for but it's strong enough that she's going to go with the audience's answer.
Spoiler
B - Stacy (8)

Meredith gives her full name - Stacy Ann Ferguson
$12500 - In 2008, Oprah premiered a philanthropy-based reality TV series called what?
A - Oprah's New Day
B - Oprah's Big Give
C - Oprah's Special Delivery
D - Oprah's Helping Hand
Spoiler
B - Oprah's Big Give (13)
commercial break

Kate used to work in sales but she's unemployed for now. Her husband is a shoe salesman.

$15000 - Scientists working with the Fresno Zoo have discovered that what animal produces a sweat-like secretion that acts as a natural sunblock?
A - hippo
B - zebra
C - lion
D - giraffe

Kate says she has an idea but she wants to ask the expert, Margaret Cho. The clock stops with 19 seconds.
ATE conversation
Margaret says she knows a lot about animals and sometimes prefers them to people. After reading the question Margaret sighs dolefully. "OK, OK, OK, let's go through this. This is my first guess - because all the other animals have fur, which is a natural sunblock, the hippo is probably the one. Although I don't know." Kate says that's honest. She thanks Margaret for all her help.
Kate goes with Margaret's answer. Meredith does the fakeout before telling her she's right.
Spoiler
A - hippo (12)
$25000 - In honor of a historical figure who reportedly had one, a "below the belt" body piercing is slangily known as a what?
A - King George
B - Emperor Ferdinand
C - Prince Albert
D - Czar Alexander

Meredith comments that Kate is too strait-laced to know this one but Kate replies that she has quite a few friends
who have piercings and tattoos and she knows what the answer is.
Spoiler
C - Prince Albert (16)
commercial break

Last year was a good news/bad news situation for Kate - she got married to Graham but a couple months later she lost her job. With the money they would like to buy a house, start a family and start living their American dream.

$50000 - In his inaugural address what U.S. president said, "the Republic of Texas has made known her decision to
come into our Union"?
A - John Quincy Adams
B - James K. Polk
C - Rutherford B. Hayes
D - Benjamin Harrison

Kate almost immediately asks for the Double Dip, stopping the clock with 33 seconds remaining.
DD results
Kate makes C her first final answer. That's not correct. The clock starts again and Kate makes B
her second final answer.
Spoiler
B - James K. Polk (26)
$100000 - For the 2009 Tour de France, officials unveiled a new "super route" that included excursions outside of
France to all but which of these countries?
A - Belgium
B - Switzerland
C - Italy
D - Spain

Kate says that sports and geography are her two worst subjects and this question combines them. She decides to walk away with what she already has.
Spoiler
A - Belgium (29)

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#2 Post by Kazoo65 » Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:44 pm

With all LLs intact:$15K-what a WWOQ.  I doubt the audience would know, so I'd ATE.$50K-I know when these guys served. JQ Adams is way too early, Hayes is way too late (he was elected in 1876), and so is B. Harrison. I go with Polk.

$100K-good grief, basic European geography for this much money? If you can picture France and know which countries it borders, you can easily figure out this answer.
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#3 Post by SportsFan68 » Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:46 pm

Kazoo65 wrote:With all LLs intact:$15K-what a WWOQ.  I doubt the audience would know, so I'd ATE.$50K-I know when these guys served. JQ Adams is way too early, Hayes is way too late (he was elected in 1876), and so is B. Harrison. I go with Polk.

$100K-good grief, basic European geography for this much money? If you can picture France and know which countries it borders, you can easily figure out this answer.
Pretty sure that France borders all of those. No geography expert here, I hasten to add.
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#4 Post by MarleysGh0st » Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:47 pm

Kazoo65 wrote:$100K-good grief, basic European geography for this much money? If you can picture France and know which countries it borders, you can easily figure out this answer.
France borders all four of the listed countries. Could you explain your reasoning further?

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#5 Post by Kazoo65 » Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:50 pm

Belgium is one of the Low Countries. The other three are mountainous in some parts.
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#6 Post by silvercamaro » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:12 pm

Kazoo65 wrote:Belgium is one of the Low Countries. The other three are mountainous in some parts.
True, but that has nothing to do with the Tour de France. The race always has included mountainous sections, which may be one reason why Spain, Switzerland, and Italy always field strong teams.

So, you might have gotten the right answer for the wrong reasons. Would you have gotten far enough to see it? I don't see why the audience wouldn't have known the 15K Q, as it seems figure-outable to me. What about the 25K Q? Did you know that one without a lifeline?
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#7 Post by FannyHeartsNene » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:24 pm

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Kazoo65 wrote:What about the 25K Q? Did you know that one without a lifeline?
I did. Ha! Although I admit I didn't know that's where it got the name. I shouldn't be so surprised, though. Body piercings and tattoos were very popular back then among the rich and privileged. These people today, thinking they're so daring and cutting edge...... not even realizing that there is truly nothing new under the sun. But I still can't believe they had a question about it on this show.

And correct me if I'm wrong, lb (I'm sure you will), I do believe that a PA discussion quite some time ago is what spurred the creation of the Avatar Genie.....
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#8 Post by littlebeast13 » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:38 pm

FannyHeartsNene wrote:
silvercamaro wrote:
Kazoo65 wrote:What about the 25K Q? Did you know that one without a lifeline?
I did. Ha! Although I admit I didn't know that's where it got the name. I shouldn't be so surprised, though. Body piercings and tattoos were very popular back then among the rich and privileged. These people today, thinking they're so daring and cutting edge...... not even realizing that there is truly nothing new under the sun. But I still can't believe they had a question about it on this show.

And correct me if I'm wrong, lb (I'm sure you will), I do believe that a PA discussion quite some time ago is what spurred the creation of the Avatar Genie.....

I don't know about that, but I do recall I made up the Avatar Genie as a promo for my Judge Judy skit. I do recall us having a Prince Albert conversation back around that time though.......

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#9 Post by FannyHeartsNene » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:46 pm

littlebeast13 wrote:
FannyHeartsNene wrote:
silvercamaro wrote:
I did. Ha! Although I admit I didn't know that's where it got the name. I shouldn't be so surprised, though. Body piercings and tattoos were very popular back then among the rich and privileged. These people today, thinking they're so daring and cutting edge...... not even realizing that there is truly nothing new under the sun. But I still can't believe they had a question about it on this show.

And correct me if I'm wrong, lb (I'm sure you will), I do believe that a PA discussion quite some time ago is what spurred the creation of the Avatar Genie.....

I don't know about that, but I do recall I made up the Avatar Genie as a promo for my Judge Judy skit. I do recall us having a Prince Albert conversation back around that time though.......

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Maybe just coincidence?

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#10 Post by Estonut » Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:23 pm

silvercamaro wrote:
Kazoo65 wrote:Belgium is one of the Low Countries. The other three are mountainous in some parts.
True, but that has nothing to do with the Tour de France. The race always has included mountainous sections, which may be one reason why Spain, Switzerland, and Italy always field strong teams.
This year's Tour, which begins in a couple of weeks, starts in Rotterdam (the Netherlands) and the first leg ends in Bruxelles (Brussels). Leg 2 is Bruxelles to Spa (Belgium). Leg 3 is Spa to Wanze (Belgium). During Leg 4, they first cross into France.
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#11 Post by ten96lt » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:35 am

I knew the $25K question thanks to Robin Williams who made a whole routine about it.

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#12 Post by Pastor Fireball » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:21 am

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France to all but which of these countries?
A - Belgium
B - Switzerland
C - Italy
D - Spain
From the comfort of my home, I picked the right answer. I figured that with Switzerland, Italy, and Spain all being relatively close to each other, Belgium was too far away from the other three to be included in the race. In the HS, I probably would've asked the audience and see if they could confirm it. I'm certainly not giving this question to Margaret. If the audience vote is inconclusive, then I'll burn the DD and still pick Belgium.
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#13 Post by Jeemie » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:06 am

Kazoo65 wrote:With all LLs intact:$15K-what a WWOQ.  I doubt the audience would know, so I'd ATE.$50K-I know when these guys served. JQ Adams is way too early, Hayes is way too late (he was elected in 1876), and so is B. Harrison. I go with Polk.

$100K-good grief, basic European geography for this much money? If you can picture France and know which countries it borders, you can easily figure out this answer.
Actually, her reasoning was sound- all the other animals have fur...the hippo does not.

Not such a WWOQ after-all. A WWOQ is one where there's no amount of logic you could use to help you get the answer.

As for the $100K, news flash- Belgium borders France.

I would have guessed it assuming that Belgium doesn't have many (any?) hills, so they'd want to go places where there were hills/mountains.

Ooops! Didn't read all the way thru the thread- I see I had the same reasoning as Kazoo...and would've been right for the wrong reason!!!
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#14 Post by MarleysGh0st » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:23 am

Jeemie wrote:Ooops! Didn't read all the way thru the thread- I see I had the same reasoning as Kazoo...and would've been right for the wrong reason!!!
Since Esto says that this year's race will include Belgium and the Netherlands in the race, trying to make a logical guess at the race organizers' objectives in expanding the race seems to be rather speculative, unless one remembers an article that might have included some official explanations. Are they trying to turn this into a Tour de Europe?

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#15 Post by SportsFan68 » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:28 am

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Jeemie wrote:Ooops! Didn't read all the way thru the thread- I see I had the same reasoning as Kazoo...and would've been right for the wrong reason!!!
Since Esto says that this year's race will include Belgium and the Netherlands in the race, trying to make a logical guess at the race organizers' objectives in expanding the race seems to be rather speculative, unless one remembers an article that might have included some official explanations. Are they trying to turn this into a Tour de Europe?
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#16 Post by ulysses5019 » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:58 am

From wiki:
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The first three Tours stayed within France. The 1906 race went into Alsace-Lorraine, territory occupied by Germany since the end of the Franco-Prussian war in 1870. Passage was secured through a meeting at Metz between Desgrange's collaborator, Alphonse Steinès, and the German governor. The race passed to the waving of local people, the race director Victor Breyer wrote, but not without trouble at the border. L'Auto reported the difference between the German and French border controls:
Woken from a deep sleep, obliged to get up in three minutes, the German customs appeared before us correctly dressed in new uniforms. At the French border, by contrast, it was simply distressing. Smelly, covered in mud, their clothes patched and discoloured, backs bent, squashed képis on dirty bodies, the two officials charged with nosing around on behalf of the tax authorities and who represented France revolted us.
—[88]
The Germans let not only the competitors pass without problem but all the officials and their cars and the amateur enthusiasts who rode with them. "It is distressing," L'Auto said, "to find that it's only the French who can't grasp the simple idea ... of allowing the best representatives of French energy [to cross the border]."[89] The paper offered to start a public appeal to provide better clothes for its frontier officials.
No teams from Italy, Germany or Spain rode in 1939 because of tensions preceding the second world war, and the race was not held again until 1947 (see Tour de France during the Second World War). The first German team after the war was in 1960, although individual Germans had ridden in mixed teams. The Tour has since started in Germany three times: in Cologne in 1965, in Frankfurt in 1980 and in West Berlin on the city's 750th anniversary in 1987. Plans to enter East Germany that year were abandoned.
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#17 Post by earendel » Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:58 am

BBTranscriptTeam wrote:Kate Kobs
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Kate brought the two things she loves most - her husband Graham and the shoes that will help her "strut her stuff" in the Hot Seat. Meredith thinks they're gorgeous and she got them at a discount thanks to her husband. Kate can cross only one eye at a time. She used to cross both eyes and tried to see what she looked like in the mirror. Kate demonstrates and Meredith says she finds that disturbing.
It wasn't very attractive, that's for certain.
BBTranscriptTeam wrote:$10000 - The pop singer Fergie has what lesser-known first name?
A - Alicia
B - Stacy
C - Robyn
D - Natalie

Kate says that she should know this but she doesn't, so she decides to ask the audience, stopping the clock with 22 seconds remaining.
ATA results
A - 8%
B - 66%
C - 11%
D - 15%
Kate says that wasn't the number she was hoping for but it's strong enough that she's going to go with the audience's answer.
Spoiler
B - Stacy (8)

Meredith gives her full name - Stacy Ann Ferguson
I'd have to ATA on this one also.
BBTranscriptTeam wrote:$12500 - In 2008, Oprah premiered a philanthropy-based reality TV series called what?
A - Oprah's New Day
B - Oprah's Big Give
C - Oprah's Special Delivery
D - Oprah's Helping Hand
Spoiler
B - Oprah's Big Give (13)
elwing and I watched this. It wasn't a bad concept.
BBTranscriptTeam wrote:$15000 - Scientists working with the Fresno Zoo have discovered that what animal produces a sweat-like secretion that acts as a natural sunblock?
A - hippo
B - zebra
C - lion
D - giraffe

Kate says she has an idea but she wants to ask the expert, Margaret Cho. The clock stops with 19 seconds.
ATE conversation
Margaret says she knows a lot about animals and sometimes prefers them to people. After reading the question Margaret sighs dolefully. "OK, OK, OK, let's go through this. This is my first guess - because all the other animals have fur, which is a natural sunblock, the hippo is probably the one. Although I don't know." Kate says that's honest. She thanks Margaret for all her help.
Kate goes with Margaret's answer. Meredith does the fakeout before telling her she's right.
Spoiler
A - hippo (12)
OK, I have to give the expert credit for this one. Her approach was logical and she didn't try to oversell the answer since she wasn't sure. FWIW it was the same line of reasoning that elwing used.
BBTranscriptTeam wrote:$25000 - In honor of a historical figure who reportedly had one, a "below the belt" body piercing is slangily known as a what?
A - King George
B - Emperor Ferdinand
C - Prince Albert
D - Czar Alexander

Meredith comments that Kate is too strait-laced to know this one but Kate replies that she has quite a few friends who have piercings and tattoos and she knows what the answer is.
Spoiler
C - Prince Albert (16)
I'd ATE on this one, hoping that Margaret might know.
BBTranscriptTeam wrote:$50000 - In his inaugural address what U.S. president said, "the Republic of Texas has made known her decision to
come into our Union"?
A - John Quincy Adams
B - James K. Polk
C - Rutherford B. Hayes
D - Benjamin Harrison

Kate almost immediately asks for the Double Dip, stopping the clock with 33 seconds remaining.
DD results
Kate makes C her first final answer. That's not correct. The clock starts again and Kate makes B
her second final answer.
Spoiler
B - James K. Polk (26)
Good for Kate in going for it with the DD.
BBTranscriptTeam wrote:$100000 - For the 2009 Tour de France, officials unveiled a new "super route" that included excursions outside of France to all but which of these countries?
A - Belgium
B - Switzerland
C - Italy
D - Spain

Kate says that sports and geography are her two worst subjects and this question combines them. She decides to walk away with what she already has.
Spoiler
A - Belgium (29)
A shame. I reasoned that since there were several Alpine stages in the race, it probably would run through Switzerland and Italy. I didn't think it went far enough north to hit Belgium, so that would have been my answer. I'd be going for $250K with my DD still in hand.
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#18 Post by andrewjackson » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:17 am

SportsFan68 wrote:
MarleysGh0st wrote:
Jeemie wrote:Ooops! Didn't read all the way thru the thread- I see I had the same reasoning as Kazoo...and would've been right for the wrong reason!!!
Since Esto says that this year's race will include Belgium and the Netherlands in the race, trying to make a logical guess at the race organizers' objectives in expanding the race seems to be rather speculative, unless one remembers an article that might have included some official explanations. Are they trying to turn this into a Tour de Europe?
Probably. There are probably sponsor fees to be had and revenues to be shared.
I think that was a very hard question. The Tour de France has went into or through Belgium many times in the past. Spain and Switzerland have also been on the Tour quite a bit in recent years. Back in the 50s and 60's it went into Italy quite a bit but 2008 was the first time since 1999.

This running of the Tour into other countries is not new. Almost every year it has stages in the surrounding countries.
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#19 Post by wintergreen48 » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:41 pm

ulysses5019 wrote:From wiki:
Politics

The first three Tours stayed within France. The 1906 race went into Alsace-Lorraine, territory occupied by Germany since the end of the Franco-Prussian war in 1870. Passage was secured through a meeting at Metz between Desgrange's collaborator, Alphonse Steinès, and the German governor. The race passed to the waving of local people, the race director Victor Breyer wrote, but not without trouble at the border. L'Auto reported the difference between the German and French border controls:
Woken from a deep sleep, obliged to get up in three minutes, the German customs appeared before us correctly dressed in new uniforms. At the French border, by contrast, it was simply distressing. Smelly, covered in mud, their clothes patched and discoloured, backs bent, squashed képis on dirty bodies, the two officials charged with nosing around on behalf of the tax authorities and who represented France revolted us.
—[88]
The Germans let not only the competitors pass without problem but all the officials and their cars and the amateur enthusiasts who rode with them. "It is distressing," L'Auto said, "to find that it's only the French who can't grasp the simple idea ... of allowing the best representatives of French energy [to cross the border]."[89] The paper offered to start a public appeal to provide better clothes for its frontier officials.
No teams from Italy, Germany or Spain rode in 1939 because of tensions preceding the second world war, and the race was not held again until 1947 (see Tour de France during the Second World War). The first German team after the war was in 1960, although individual Germans had ridden in mixed teams. The Tour has since started in Germany three times: in Cologne in 1965, in Frankfurt in 1980 and in West Berlin on the city's 750th anniversary in 1987. Plans to enter East Germany that year were abandoned.

That last bit is kind of puzzling: West Berlin is (or was, in 1987) surrounded by East Germany: no matter where you go, when you leave West Berlin, you have to 'enter' East Germany. Unless maybe they rode just short of the Brandenburg Gate (on the western side), got into helicopters and passed over East Germany?
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#20 Post by ulysses5019 » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:14 pm

wintergreen48 wrote:
ulysses5019 wrote:From wiki:
Politics

The first three Tours stayed within France. The 1906 race went into Alsace-Lorraine, territory occupied by Germany since the end of the Franco-Prussian war in 1870. Passage was secured through a meeting at Metz between Desgrange's collaborator, Alphonse Steinès, and the German governor. The race passed to the waving of local people, the race director Victor Breyer wrote, but not without trouble at the border. L'Auto reported the difference between the German and French border controls:
Woken from a deep sleep, obliged to get up in three minutes, the German customs appeared before us correctly dressed in new uniforms. At the French border, by contrast, it was simply distressing. Smelly, covered in mud, their clothes patched and discoloured, backs bent, squashed képis on dirty bodies, the two officials charged with nosing around on behalf of the tax authorities and who represented France revolted us.
—[88]
The Germans let not only the competitors pass without problem but all the officials and their cars and the amateur enthusiasts who rode with them. "It is distressing," L'Auto said, "to find that it's only the French who can't grasp the simple idea ... of allowing the best representatives of French energy [to cross the border]."[89] The paper offered to start a public appeal to provide better clothes for its frontier officials.
No teams from Italy, Germany or Spain rode in 1939 because of tensions preceding the second world war, and the race was not held again until 1947 (see Tour de France during the Second World War). The first German team after the war was in 1960, although individual Germans had ridden in mixed teams. The Tour has since started in Germany three times: in Cologne in 1965, in Frankfurt in 1980 and in West Berlin on the city's 750th anniversary in 1987. Plans to enter East Germany that year were abandoned.

That last bit is kind of puzzling: West Berlin is (or was, in 1987) surrounded by East Germany: no matter where you go, when you leave West Berlin, you have to 'enter' East Germany. Unless maybe they rode just short of the Brandenburg Gate (on the western side), got into helicopters and passed over East Germany?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_Tour_de_France

The stage was 6.1kms.
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#21 Post by TheConfessor » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:22 pm

wintergreen48 wrote:That last bit is kind of puzzling: West Berlin is (or was, in 1987) surrounded by East Germany: no matter where you go, when you leave West Berlin, you have to 'enter' East Germany. Unless maybe they rode just short of the Brandenburg Gate (on the western side), got into helicopters and passed over East Germany?
The prologue and first two stages of the 1987 Tour de France took place within West Berlin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_Tour_de_France

President Reagan was a big supporter of bicycle racing. He even went to Berlin a couple weeks before the start of the 1987 Tour to lobby regional politicians on behalf of an expanded race course. He made a big speech in front of one of the main barriers. Reagan's efforts were too late to expand that year's race course, but his message resonated with many other bicycle racing fans who later implemented his key recommendations.
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#22 Post by etaoin22 » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:08 pm

andrewjackson wrote:
SportsFan68 wrote:
MarleysGh0st wrote:
Since Esto says that this year's race will include Belgium and the Netherlands in the race, trying to make a logical guess at the race organizers' objectives in expanding the race seems to be rather speculative, unless one remembers an article that might have included some official explanations. Are they trying to turn this into a Tour de Europe?
Probably. There are probably sponsor fees to be had and revenues to be shared.
I think that was a very hard question. The Tour de France has went into or through Belgium many times in the past. Spain and Switzerland have also been on the Tour quite a bit in recent years. Back in the 50s and 60's it went into Italy quite a bit but 2008 was the first time since 1999.

This running of the Tour into other countries is not new. Almost every year it has stages in the surrounding countries.
agree, hard. the only logic would be to pick Belgium as the odd border out geographically, but since there is no requirement that the stages be contiguous, one could certainly choose without difficulty to cover both the north and the south in one year. Looking at the map of the Tour as it was run, however, shows that Andorra and Monaco were also covered, to make 5 excursions from France into other places, all to the south and east; there was also one inter-stage plane trip, and one long train ride -- after the penultimate stage -- from the Rhone valley up towards Paris. In Monaco the first stage was an individual time trial;( I shall look up the route to see if they used the same streets as the F1 Grand Prix).

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Re: Transcript 6/18/2010 - Kate Kobs (carryover contestant)

#23 Post by tanstaafl2 » Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:39 pm

Kazoo65 wrote:With all LLs intact:$15K-what a WWOQ.  I doubt the audience would know, so I'd ATE.$50K-I know when these guys served. JQ Adams is way too early, Hayes is way too late (he was elected in 1876), and so is B. Harrison. I go with Polk.

$100K-good grief, basic European geography for this much money? If you can picture France and know which countries it borders, you can easily figure out this answer.
I suppose it is what you know. And don't know. No problem at 15K (although, despite Ms. Cho's wealth of trivial knowledge demonstrated so convincing lately it might be worth noting that hippos do indeed have "hair", as do all mammals, although it is so sparse one would perhaps not think of it as "fur"!

But knowing France bordered all four countries listed AND knowing that Belgium was the closest to Paris by far (and the fact that I have little interest in the race or the sport) I would have had no idea on this one. I believe the route is rarely the same from one year to the next but typically is close to the borders and always ends in Paris so I found it to be quite difficult.
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