WWTBAM Bored

Posted: **Mon May 10, 2010 5:44 pm**

Jim Tindell (BB: Max Bedroom)
Milwaukee, WI
Film student at UW Milwaukee

Guest host John Henson.

Today’s ATE is writer, comedian and contributor for “CBS Sunday Morning,” Mo Rocca.

Topic Tree:

On the House
Perfumers
Presidential History
What Is It?
Unusual Words
Historic Sites
World Leaders
CELEBRITY Q
Famous Couples
Felines
Pop Music
The Bible
TV & Film
In the Dictionary
Hot Stuff

$500 What article of clothing is depicted on bottles of Tighty Whitey Hot Sauce?
A. Suspenders
B. Raincoat
C. Underwear
D. A chile (sic) pepper thong

Spoiler

C. Underwear (7)

$1K A person who is engaged in illicit activities is said to be involved in what?
A. Topsy-turvy
B. Hanky-panky
C. Dilly-dally
D. Nitty-gritty

Spoiler

B. Hanky-panky (6)

$2K In 2009, the Discovery Channel aired the drama “”Blood in the Water,” the true story that reportedly inspired what film?
A. The Birds
B. King Kong
C. Cujo
D. Jaws

Spoiler

D. Jaws (5)

$3K Appearing in the Bible, the ominous Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse are believed to symbolize what?
A. Creation of life
B. End of the world
C. Beginning of spring
D. Happiness of mankind

Spoiler

B. End of the world (6)

$5K In a classic 1984 pop song, Prince sings about “what it sounds like when doves” do what?
A. Soar
B. Tremble
C. Cry
D. Whistle

Spoiler

C. Cry (7)

$7.5K A cat sent to the wife of Rutherford B. Hayes in 1878 by a Bangkok diplomat was said to be the first member of what feline breed in the U.S.?
A. Persian
B. Siamese
C. Abyssinian
D. Russian blue

ATA ( 18 )

10% A. Persian
87% B. Siamese
2% C. Abyssinian
1% D. Russian blue

Spoiler

B. Siamese (10)

commercial break

$10K “According to Jim” cast member Kimberly Williams changed her last name to Williams-Paisley after she married a famous what?
A. Movie director
B. NASCAR driver
C. country singer
D. TV chef

Spoiler

C. Country singer (20)

Today’s celebrity is Michael Urie from “Ugly Betty.”

$12.5K By definition, Angora wool comes from one of two animals: the Angora goat or the Angora what?
A. Beaver
B. Ferret
C. Fox
D. Rabbit

Jim says it’s probably not beaver or rabbit.

Jim decides to use his DD.

DD (12)

Jim’s first choice, ferret, is incorrect.
Jim’s second choice, fox, is also incorrect.

Jim leaves with $5K

Spoiler

D. Rabbit (4)

Answers:
$500 C. Underwear
$1K B. Hanky-panky
$2K D. Jaws
$3K B. End of the world
$5K C. Cry
$7.5K B. Siamese
$10K C. Country singer
$12.5K D. Rabbit

Posted: **Mon May 10, 2010 6:22 pm**

BBTranscriptTeam wrote:Today’s celebrity is Michael Urie from “Ugly Betty.”

$12.5K By definition, Angora wool comes from one of two animals: the Angora goat or the Angora what?
A. Beaver
B. Ferret
C. Fox
D. Rabbit

Jim says it’s probably not beaver or rabbit.

Jim decides to use his DD.

DD (12)

Jim’s first choice, ferret, is incorrect.
Jim’s second choice, fox, is also incorrect.

Jim leaves with $5K

Spoiler
D. Rabbit (4)

Spoiler

I guess Jim's never petted a rabbit...

Posted: **Mon May 10, 2010 7:15 pm**

BBTranscriptTeam wrote:Jim Tindell
Milwaukee, WI
Film student at UW Milwaukee

Aspiring What Else®.

BBTranscriptTeam wrote:Guest host John Henson.

First day as guest host, and he came off to me as a stereotypical game show host: extremely cheesy.

BBTranscriptTeam wrote:Today’s ATE is writer, comedian and contributor for “CBS Sunday Morning,” Mo Rocca.

Yay!

BBTranscriptTeam wrote:$1K A person who is engaged in illicit activities is said to be involved in what?
A. Topsy-turvy
B. Hanky-panky
C. Dilly-dally
D. Nitty-gritty

E. Politics

BBTranscriptTeam wrote:$3K Appearing in the Bible, the ominous Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse are believed to symbolize what?
A. Creation of life
B. End of the world
C. Beginning of spring
D. Happiness of mankind

E. Politics

BBTranscriptTeam wrote:Today’s celebrity is Michael Urie from “Ugly Betty.”

$12.5K By definition, Angora wool comes from one of two animals: the Angora goat or the Angora what?
A. Beaver
B. Ferret
C. Fox
D. Rabbit

Jim says it’s probably not beaver or rabbit.

Jim decides to use his DD.

DD (12)

Jim’s first choice, ferret, is incorrect.
Jim’s second choice, fox, is also incorrect.

Jim leaves with $5K

Jim has seen wool on a ferret and a fox? Wow...

Estonut wrote:
Spoiler
I guess Jim's never petted a rabbit...

Spoiler

I'll go out on a limb and say that he's never petted a beaver, either...

Nihil obstat®

Posted: **Mon May 10, 2010 8:43 pm**

Thanks for the cynicism! Let me know how you do on the show.

I should have gotten a haircut before taping.

Posted: **Mon May 10, 2010 9:17 pm**

BBTranscriptTeam wrote: $12.5K By definition, Angora wool comes from one of two animals: the Angora goat or the Angora what?
A. Beaver
B. Ferret
C. Fox
D. Rabbit

The question itself is wrong. The fur from an Angora goat is mohair. You only get angora from rabbits.

And, by definition, wool comes from sheep. There is no such thing as angora wool (or goat wool or rabbit wool, etc.)

Posted: **Mon May 10, 2010 9:50 pm**

FannyHeartsNene wrote:
BBTranscriptTeam wrote: $12.5K By definition, Angora wool comes from one of two animals: the Angora goat or the Angora what?
A. Beaver
B. Ferret
C. Fox
D. Rabbit

The question itself is wrong. The fur from an Angora goat is mohair. You only get angora from rabbits.

And, by definition, wool comes from sheep. There is no such thing as angora wool (or goat wool or rabbit wool, etc.)

73k hits for "angora wool" and 13k for "angora wool" "angora goat" tend to disagree with you.

Posted: **Mon May 10, 2010 10:19 pm**

FannyHeartsNene wrote:And, by definition, wool comes from sheep. There is no such thing as angora wool (or goat wool or rabbit wool, etc.)

When I was a kid, we had to clean the pots and pans with steel wool.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_wool

Posted: **Mon May 10, 2010 10:20 pm**

Estonut wrote:
FannyHeartsNene wrote:
BBTranscriptTeam wrote: $12.5K By definition, Angora wool comes from one of two animals: the Angora goat or the Angora what?
A. Beaver
B. Ferret
C. Fox
D. Rabbit

The question itself is wrong. The fur from an Angora goat is mohair. You only get angora from rabbits.

And, by definition, wool comes from sheep. There is no such thing as angora wool (or goat wool or rabbit wool, etc.)
73k hits for "angora wool" and 13k for "angora wool" "angora goat" tend to disagree with you.

I would assume that something along the lines of "there's no such thing as angora wool" would be included in those 73k hits, right? There could be 48548905033 hits that disagree with me, but that doesn't mean they're correct.

I said "by definition". People use wool as a generic term for protein fibers, but that doesn't make it right.

I also did not say there was no such thing as an Angora goat. I said the fur from the Angora goat is mohair, not angora.

Posted: **Mon May 10, 2010 10:23 pm**

TheConfessor wrote:
FannyHeartsNene wrote:And, by definition, wool comes from sheep. There is no such thing as angora wool (or goat wool or rabbit wool, etc.)
When I was a kid, we had to clean the pots and pans with steel wool.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_wool

When I was a kid, we used Janitor in a Drum, but there wasn't a miniature custodian in there.

Posted: **Mon May 10, 2010 10:30 pm**

FannyHeartsNene wrote:
Estonut wrote:
FannyHeartsNene wrote:The question itself is wrong. The fur from an Angora goat is mohair. You only get angora from rabbits.

And, by definition, wool comes from sheep. There is no such thing as angora wool (or goat wool or rabbit wool, etc.)
73k hits for "angora wool" and 13k for "angora wool" "angora goat" tend to disagree with you.
I would assume that something along the lines of "there's no such thing as angora wool" would be included in those 73k hits, right? There could be 48548905033 hits that disagree with me, but that doesn't mean they're correct.

I said "by definition". People use wool as a generic term for protein fibers, but that doesn't make it right.

I also did not say there was no such thing as an Angora goat. I said the fur from the Angora goat is mohair, not angora.

The ones I looked at said that "angora wool," by definition, comes from angora rabbits. A few mentioned the angora goat, too. One of the first ones looked like a respectable fabric-related site.

Posted: **Mon May 10, 2010 10:41 pm**

FannyHeartsNene wrote:
TheConfessor wrote:
FannyHeartsNene wrote:And, by definition, wool comes from sheep. There is no such thing as angora wool (or goat wool or rabbit wool, etc.)
When I was a kid, we had to clean the pots and pans with steel wool.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_wool
When I was a kid, we used Janitor in a Drum, but there wasn't a miniature custodian in there.

Maybe you got a bad batch. Our Janitor in a Drum came with this guy inside:

Posted: **Mon May 10, 2010 10:48 pm**

Estonut wrote:
FannyHeartsNene wrote:
Estonut wrote:73k hits for "angora wool" and 13k for "angora wool" "angora goat" tend to disagree with you.
I would assume that something along the lines of "there's no such thing as angora wool" would be included in those 73k hits, right? There could be 48548905033 hits that disagree with me, but that doesn't mean they're correct.

I said "by definition". People use wool as a generic term for protein fibers, but that doesn't make it right.

I also did not say there was no such thing as an Angora goat. I said the fur from the Angora goat is mohair, not angora.
The ones I looked at said that "angora wool," by definition, comes from angora rabbits. A few mentioned the angora goat, too. One of the first ones looked like a respectable fabric-related site.

I own several fiber reference books, including this one:

http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/disp ... 0307352170

Cashmere is like wool, except it's from a goat, alpaca is like wool, except it's from a llama. It's just easier at some point to call cashmere goat wool. The best way I can think to explain it is that wool has become eponymous (I realize that's not really the ideal word for it).

So, a kleenex is actually a facial tissue made by Kimberly Clark. You can call a facial tissue made by Procter & Gamble a kleenex and people will know what you're talking about, but it's a Puffs.

Like I said, not a perfect analogy, but as close as I can get on short notice.

Posted: **Mon May 10, 2010 10:49 pm**

TheConfessor wrote:
FannyHeartsNene wrote:
TheConfessor wrote: When I was a kid, we had to clean the pots and pans with steel wool.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_wool
When I was a kid, we used Janitor in a Drum, but there wasn't a miniature custodian in there.
Maybe you got a bad batch. Our Janitor in a Drum came with this guy inside:

Talk around the water cooler was that Willy was part sheep on his father's side.....

We never had a chuck wagon come barreling out of a bag of Purina either, but that never stopped us from looking.....ha!

Posted: **Mon May 10, 2010 11:22 pm**

FannyHeartsNene wrote:
Estonut wrote:
FannyHeartsNene wrote:
I would assume that something along the lines of "there's no such thing as angora wool" would be included in those 73k hits, right? There could be 48548905033 hits that disagree with me, but that doesn't mean they're correct.

I said "by definition". People use wool as a generic term for protein fibers, but that doesn't make it right.

I also did not say there was no such thing as an Angora goat. I said the fur from the Angora goat is mohair, not angora.
The ones I looked at said that "angora wool," by definition, comes from angora rabbits. A few mentioned the angora goat, too. One of the first ones looked like a respectable fabric-related site.
I own several fiber reference books, including this one:

http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/disp ... 0307352170

Cashmere is like wool, except it's from a goat, alpaca is like wool, except it's from a llama. It's just easier at some point to call cashmere goat wool. The best way I can think to explain it is that wool has become eponymous (I realize that's not really the ideal word for it).

So, a kleenex is actually a facial tissue made by Kimberly Clark. You can call a facial tissue made by Procter & Gamble a kleenex and people will know what you're talking about, but it's a Puffs.

Like I said, not a perfect analogy, but as close as I can get on short notice.

You keep talking about wool, not "angora wool." I believe some of these references are just as valid as yours:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22alpaca+wool%22

Your reference book is about wool, not fiber. One on fiber or yarn might mention "alpaca wool," but one about wool, of course, would not.

And alpaca is an animal in its own right, in the llama family. Its fur may be called alpaca, but alpaca does not come from a llama.

Posted: **Mon May 10, 2010 11:41 pm**

Max Bedroom wrote:I should have gotten a haircut before taping.

I just watched your episode, Jim. Your hair was fine. So was your gameplay. I wish you hadn't ruled out rabbit so quickly on your last Q. I admire that you weren't sure of the answer but went for the double dip. We've seen many others walk away in similar circumstances.

What was it that made you immediately rule out beaver and rabbit?

Congratulations on your winnings!

Posted: **Mon May 10, 2010 11:55 pm**

Estonut wrote:You keep talking about wool, not "angora wool." I believe some of these references are just as valid as yours:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22alpaca+wool%22

Your reference book is about wool, not fiber. One on fiber or yarn might mention "alpaca wool," but one about wool, of course, would not.

And alpaca is an animal in its own right, in the llama family. Its fur may be called alpaca, but alpaca does not come from a llama.

That's my point, there is no "angora wool". Angora is a fiber and wool is a fiber. Angora is specifically from an Angora rabbit, while wool is any fiber from a sheep, there are specific wools from specific breeds.

You are right about the alpaca v. llama, I should have said alpaca is from a camelid. I was trying to go with the specific theme, like angora and cashmere and I misspoke.

I also have fiber reference books, including this one:

http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/disp ... 52163.html

Here are some direct quotes (yes, I went and retrieved the book.....):

"The oldest and most prevalent protein fiber is wool, which is the hair grown on a sheep. But goats, camels, rabbits and other animals - including household pets and even humans - also produce protein fibers."

"In the very broadest possible terms, wool is simply the hair grown on a sheep."

To be clear, I am speaking of wool as a noun. It can also be used as an adverb or adjective, as in "woolen" that can mean a certain technique or property that is applied to other fibers.

Basically, all I'm saying is that the word "wool" has become a generic term for certain types of animal fibers. I'm not saying that you won't find the term "xxxx wool" frequently used, just that, technically, wool = sheep.

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2010 1:18 am**

FannyHeartsNene wrote:
Estonut wrote:You keep talking about wool, not "angora wool." I believe some of these references are just as valid as yours:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22alpaca+wool%22

Your reference book is about wool, not fiber. One on fiber or yarn might mention "alpaca wool," but one about wool, of course, would not.

And alpaca is an animal in its own right, in the llama family. Its fur may be called alpaca, but alpaca does not come from a llama.
That's my point, there is no "angora wool". Angora is a fiber and wool is a fiber. Angora is specifically from an Angora rabbit, while wool is any fiber from a sheep, there are specific wools from specific breeds.

You are right about the alpaca v. llama, I should have said alpaca is from a camelid. I was trying to go with the specific theme, like angora and cashmere and I misspoke.

I also have fiber reference books, including this one:

http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/disp ... 52163.html

Here are some direct quotes (yes, I went and retrieved the book.....):

"The oldest and most prevalent protein fiber is wool, which is the hair grown on a sheep. But goats, camels, rabbits and other animals - including household pets and even humans - also produce protein fibers."

"In the very broadest possible terms, wool is simply the hair grown on a sheep."

To be clear, I am speaking of wool as a noun. It can also be used as an adverb or adjective, as in "woolen" that can mean a certain technique or property that is applied to other fibers.

Basically, all I'm saying is that the word "wool" has become a generic term for certain types of animal fibers. I'm not saying that you won't find the term "xxxx wool" frequently used, just that, technically, wool = sheep.

I'll buy that. Thanks for taking the time to 'splain it!

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2010 6:29 am**

BBTranscriptTeam wrote: Jim Tindell (BB: Max Bedroom)
Milwaukee, WI
Film student at UW Milwaukee

Guest host John Henson.

Today’s ATE is writer, comedian and contributor for “CBS Sunday Morning,” Mo Rocca.

A gimmicky opening - Jim coming out in gear as if for Wipeout.

BBTranscriptTeam wrote:$7.5K A cat sent to the wife of Rutherford B. Hayes in 1878 by a Bangkok diplomat was said to be the first member of what feline breed in the U.S.?
A. Persian
B. Siamese
C. Abyssinian
D. Russian blue

ATA ( 18 )

10% A. Persian
87% B. Siamese
2% C. Abyssinian
1% D. Russian blue
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B. Siamese (10)

Jim commented that he didn't know where Abyssinia was. For a question of this relatively low value it seems a bit tougher than usual. One has to reason Bangkok --> Thailand --> old name Siam.

BBTranscriptTeam wrote:$12.5K By definition, Angora wool comes from one of two animals: the Angora goat or the Angora what?
A. Beaver
B. Ferret
C. Fox
D. Rabbit

Jim says it’s probably not beaver or rabbit.
Uh, oh...
BBTranscriptTeam wrote:Jim decides to use his DD.

DD (12)

Jim’s first choice, ferret, is incorrect.
Jim’s second choice, fox, is also incorrect.

Jim leaves with $5K
Spoiler
D. Rabbit (4)

When Jim said "it's probably not ... rabbit" I figured he might be in trouble if he went with the DD. I asked my expert-in-residence how the hair from a goat and a rabbit could be the same and she said it had to do with the quality of the fibers. So I did a little investigating and from what I was able to determine angora comes from rabbits and mohair from goats and although they both are called "angora" and share qualities (such as "fluffiness") they are different fibers. And evidently "angora wool" is the fiber from the rabbit mixed with regular sheep's wool.

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2010 6:41 am**

Max Bedroom wrote:Thanks for the cynicism! Let me know how you do on the show.

I should have gotten a haircut before taping.

Welcome to the Bored, Max! Have you been lurking for a while or did you just find us last night after this transcript was posted?* Let me explain about this place--no, there is too much--let me sum up: Many of us have been trying for our turn on the show, since you were about ten or eleven. While some who have been there have sworn never to say an unkind word about a contestant's performance, some of the rest of us (the more frustrated) watch with with more critical eye.

As for cynicism, the "Merry Man" known as MyBigFatFabulousBrain hasn't even shown up to do his satire, yet!

*Oh, I see you've been here since at least February. But you've been awfully quiet, so I still don't know how much you've learned about us.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=25112

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2010 7:10 am**

TheConfessor wrote:
FannyHeartsNene wrote:And, by definition, wool comes from sheep. There is no such thing as angora wool (or goat wool or rabbit wool, etc.)
When I was a kid, we had to clean the pots and pans with steel wool.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_wool

I used to dread shearing season, when we had to clip the steel wool off those sheep.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cerejaninja/3948635596/

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2010 7:20 am**

wintergreen48 wrote:
TheConfessor wrote:
FannyHeartsNene wrote:And, by definition, wool comes from sheep. There is no such thing as angora wool (or goat wool or rabbit wool, etc.)
When I was a kid, we had to clean the pots and pans with steel wool.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_wool
I used to dread shearing season, when we had to clip the steel wool off those sheep.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cerejaninja/3948635596/

Here we are in New South Wales
Shearing sheep as big as whales
With leather necks and jaggy tails
And hides as tough as rusty nails

-- The Town Pants, "New South Wales"

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2010 7:28 am**

I missed this promo for Jim's appearance, yesterday, but it gives some details we didn't learn on the show.

http://onmilwaukee.com/movies/articles/ ... html?22571

He is ready and willing to talk about how quickly he got on the show, going to the Web site and learning how to apply by sending in a video, followed by an online test -- "one of the hardest tests I've ever taken."

That effort got him into the contestant pool, where some wannabes stay for up to two years without getting on the show.

"Two days later, I got a call from 'em and they said 'Can you be here next Thursday?'"

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2010 7:29 am**

wintergreen48 wrote:
TheConfessor wrote:
FannyHeartsNene wrote:And, by definition, wool comes from sheep. There is no such thing as angora wool (or goat wool or rabbit wool, etc.)
When I was a kid, we had to clean the pots and pans with steel wool.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_wool
I used to dread shearing season, when we had to clip the steel wool off those sheep.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cerejaninja/3948635596/

Was it

Spoiler

"shear" terror?

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2010 7:48 am**

BBTranscriptTeam wrote:$12.5K By definition, Angora wool comes from one of two animals: the Angora goat or the Angora what?
A. Beaver
B. Ferret
C. Fox
D. Rabbit

Jim says it’s probably not beaver or rabbit.

Jim decides to use his DD.

DD (12)

Jim’s first choice, ferret, is incorrect.
Jim’s second choice, fox, is also incorrect.

Jim leaves with $5K

Spoiler
D. Rabbit (4)

Despite the outcome, I salute you for being willing to take the gamble with the DD, Jim. Too many contestants won't do that.

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2010 8:12 am**

FannyHeartsNene wrote:
BBTranscriptTeam wrote: $12.5K By definition, Angora wool comes from one of two animals: the Angora goat or the Angora what?
A. Beaver
B. Ferret
C. Fox
D. Rabbit

The question itself is wrong. The fur from an Angora goat is mohair. You only get angora from rabbits.

And, by definition, wool comes from sheep. There is no such thing as angora wool (or goat wool or rabbit wool, etc.)

You're half right. Angora wool comes only from rabbits.

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